Elections Is Tulsi Gabbard a Russian asset?

[Happy Man]

What "russia nonsense"?

Their involvement in Human Rights abuses?
Their endemic corruption?
Their laundering of money overseas?
Their involvement in downing flight MH17?
Their annexing of the Crimea?
Their authoritarian leadership?
Their murder of journalists?
Their "firehose of falsehood" propaganda?

Sanders has spoken about many of those things.

As well as their election interference...

our American establishment commits horrible human rights abuses.

we are terribly corrupt. At the federal, state, and local level.

our rich and powerful launder their money overseas

We are complicit with arming terrorists and destroying nations. Not just one plane, which shouldn’t have been flying over a warzone.

They took back russian Crimea? Which is full of ethnic Russians, and which only got introduced into ukraine SSR in 60’s to help with bureaucracy. While we illegally occupy Syria and won’t leave, and want to try to break away the Kurdish areas. Very illegal.

our establishment is authoritarian. Look how it reacts to trying to stop wars. How did we deal with occupy protests? Are our police not heavy handed?

We arrest and imprison whistleblowers (Obama) and threaten journalists for sources.


our media is false propaganda every day dang. Remember Epstein? Let’s not look into that.

 

[PEB]

 

[giusti825]

Her delivery is ridiculously flat. If it wasnt for her pretty face, no one would be talking about her.

Her delivery is poised and presidential. Its a good thing. Also, you underestimate how much her message resonates with veterans. Her campaign's main message is about ending unnecessary wars that cost trillions in order to improve our international relations and spend that money here in the United States.

Being a non-interventionalist veteran and actually taking on the military industrialial complex is something american political candidates just dont do. They havent in decades. Her bravery stands out among the field.

Getting called a russian asset by Hillary and the corporate democrats means youre doing something right.

Its no coincidence who they choose to smear in this manner: Its anyone who makes Hillary's political life of corruption more difficult.

They've accused:
Donald Trump (most egregious, caused non-stop coverage and a 3 year investigation)
Edward Snowden
Julian Assange
Bernie Sanders
Jill Stein
Tulsi Gabbard
Ron Paul
Anyone who is against unnecessary wars.

 

[Zankou]

Um, there is indisputable evidence that the Russians are absolutely supporting her campaign (even Gabbard won’t dispute it) and her line about our presence in Syria is a regime change war (not only a lie but taken from Russian propaganda), her unwillingness to speak a bad work about putin or Assad, etc..

I’d love to hear you elaborate on this and your posting is typically top notch but this is a terrible take.

It’s meaningless. The Russians always support ANY American who opposes American foreign military intervention. The idea that you therefore become a ‘Russian asset’ unless you support ceaseless American military intervention is absurd.

In general, attempting to tarnish candidates by citing the badness of foreigners who support them is idiotic. It ends up being an apology for endless global imperialist intervention, where to oppose that means you must side with every tin pot dictator across the globe.

 

[giusti825]

Well CNN isn't exactly a state propaganda network in the same way as RT.
Stein's appearances on RT mostly drew criticism when she suggested that Russia had a right to the Crimea and criticised NATO.
Past that it was the Gala where she was supposedly hosted at the Kremlin's expense and sat with Putin, Flynn etc.
Followed by the pro-Stein Social Media campaign they ran.
Of course that doesn't mean she's anything other than a "useful idiot" in Putin's eyes.
They support anyone that's critical of the American establishment in ways which dovetail with their interests.

The people of crimea voted to return to russia. Since when is it anti-american to support a democratic referendum.

 

[deviake]

I presume every yes and 'not sure' vote is meant in jest.

 

[giusti825]

Imagine thinking Gabbard meeting with Assad was bad.

He is the legitimate leader of Syria. The International Community should have been meeting with him.

Not to mention that Tulsi was on the Foreign Relations Committee at the time she visited.

Thats called doing your job. Congress is an equal but separate branch to the executive. They alone are responsible for declaring war. Going there and discussing the situation with Assad was both brave and professional. Other congress members should take notes.

 

[kpt018]

It’s meaningless. The Russians always support ANY American who opposes American foreign military intervention. The idea that you therefore become a ‘Russian asset’ unless you support ceaseless American military intervention is absurd.

In general, attempting to tarnish candidates by citing the badness of foreigners who support them is idiotic. It ends up being an apology for endless global imperialist intervention, where to oppose that means you must side with every tin pot dictator across the globe.

It’s like you ignored my post. She’s literally repeating Russian propaganda and it causes her physical pain to attempt a bad word about Putin and Assad. And did you see her bonkers video today? She blasted the DNC as engaging a concerted effort to undermine her campaign “from the beginning” which is pure CT (and also good ole fashioned Russian tactics).

This goes beyond Russia supporting her. There are huge red flags. Like I said, I can’t be sure of her intentions but it’s super fishy. And it’s ludicrous to slam people who point it out. At best she’s an unwilling Russian asset.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

It’s like you ignored my post. She’s literally repeating Russian propaganda and it causes her physical pain to attempt a bad word about Putin and Assad. And did you see her bonkers video today? She blasted the DNC as engaging a concerted effort to undermine her campaign “from the beginning” which is pure CT (and also good ole fashioned Russian tactics).

This goes beyond Russia supporting her. There are huge red flags. Like I said, I can’t be sure of her intentions but it’s super fishy. And it’s ludicrous to slam people who point it out. At best she’s an unwilling Russian asset.

"From the beginning" meaning when she started her campaign. She became the enemy of the establishment Dems and Hillary when she stood down from the DNC and endorsed Bernie in 2016. There are certified documents and e-mails showing the DNC's displeasure with her for endorsing Bernie instead of Hillary. She was being groomed as the leader of the party and she called them out on rigging the election. The Russia talk didn't start until after all of this went down.

This is the establishment vs. people that threaten their power and status quo. There's a reason why the DNC hates people like Bernie and Tulsi while supporting people like Biden, Harris and Mayor Pete. They won't rock the boat.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

It’s meaningless. The Russians always support ANY American who opposes American foreign military intervention. The idea that you therefore become a ‘Russian asset’ unless you support ceaseless American military intervention is absurd.

In general, attempting to tarnish candidates by citing the badness of foreigners who support them is idiotic. It ends up being an apology for endless global imperialist intervention, where to oppose that means you must side with every tin pot dictator across the globe.

It's the exact type of thing the holier than thou Dems on here look down their noses at others for doing.

You have to be 100% for killing everyone, or you're a traitor.

Of course other countries prefer American politicians who aren't constantly threatening to kill them all.

 

[Zankou]

It’s like you ignored my post. She’s literally repeating Russian propaganda and it causes her physical pain to attempt a bad word about Putin and Assad. And did you see her bonkers video today? She blasted the DNC as engaging a concerted effort to undermine her campaign “from the beginning” which is pure CT (and also good ole fashioned Russian tactics).

This goes beyond Russia supporting her. There are huge red flags. Like I said, I can’t be sure of her intentions but it’s super fishy. And it’s ludicrous to slam people who point it out. At best she’s an unwilling Russian asset.

That’s like calling somebody a ‘Jewish tool’ because your positions coincide with those of Israeli foreign policy. It’s an absurd slur ... if you oppose intensive American intervention against Russia and Assad, then you are dubbed a ‘Russian asset.’ At least McCarthyism was kind of cool and fervent the first time around. This redux is awful and embarrassing.

 

[JSN]

lol is this real life? We have an actual manchurian candidate accusing Tulsi Gabbard of being a manchurian candidate? It feels like someone is running a retard test in the matrix right now.

 

[Zankou]

It's the exact type of thing the holier than thou Dems on here look down their noses at others for doing.

You have to be 100% for killing everyone, or you're a traitor.

Of course other countries prefer American politicians who aren't constantly threatening to kill them all.

But Russian propaganda tells me that America constantly foments regime change, to its benefit, in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and Asia. That can’t be true, can it? It’s what Russia wants us to believe. So anybody who believes such a thing is a ‘tool of the Kremlin,’ and probably in Putin’s pocketbook no less. Either you call for Putin’s head or you are a traitor to America ... it’s that simple.

 

[Zankou]

lol is this real life? We have an actual manchurian candidate accusing Tulsi Gabbard of being a manchurian candidate? It feels like someone is running a retard test in the matrix right now.

The ironic thing is that if there’s one thing we can be assured of about the Russians, it’s that they love seeing the Dem party implode in this kind of moronic and pointless shit show... for no reason at all. Wtf is the purpose of attacking Tulsi? Nobody even gave a fuck about her, and yet now the Dems are triggering themselves into McCarthyist hysteria, where you either pledge allegiance to Clintonesque neo-liberal imperialism or else you are committing treason.

 

[JSN]

The ironic thing is that if there’s one thing we can be assured of about the Russians, it’s that they love seeing the Dem party implode in this kind of moronic and pointless shit show... for no reason at all. Wtf is the purpose of attacking Tulsi? Nobody even gave a fuck about her, and yet now the Dems are triggering themselves into McCarthyist hysteria, where you either pledge allegiance to Clintonesque neo-liberal imperialism or else you are committing treason.

She's streisandianally out of touch.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Clinton was right that Russian influence sent in the social media bots to boost online presence of Stein and Gabbard in attempt to split votes. They are changing the strategy to include a candidate that appeals to further left and the right (for whatever reason)

Her ham fisted way of doing so is only going to get more support for Tulsi which is a bad strategy by Hillary...unless she herself is an asset (just to put some more fuel on the fire9

 

[JimmyFresno]

Tulsi's ass❤

She's probably going to be the first woman President, though.

She kills AOC and any other Girlocrat, in every aspect.

Including the caboose department. Especially.

 

[Ruprecht]

The people of crimea voted to return to russia. Since when is it anti-american to support a democratic referendum.

Voting on whether to unite with a country while militarily occupied by said country isn't democracy.
It's about as valid as the "referendum" in West Papua to join Indonesia.

 

[Ruprecht]

our American establishment commits horrible human rights abuses.

we are terribly corrupt. At the federal, state, and local level.

our rich and powerful launder their money overseas

We are complicit with arming terrorists and destroying nations. Not just one plane, which shouldn’t have been flying over a warzone.

They took back russian Crimea? Which is full of ethnic Russians, and which only got introduced into ukraine SSR in 60’s to help with bureaucracy. While we illegally occupy Syria and won’t leave, and want to try to break away the Kurdish areas. Very illegal.

our establishment is authoritarian. Look how it reacts to trying to stop wars. How did we deal with occupy protests? Are our police not heavy handed?

We arrest and imprison whistleblowers (Obama) and threaten journalists for sources.


our media is false propaganda every day dang. Remember Epstein? Let’s not look into that.

So what you're saying is that you'd back Russian interests over those of the US and justify it with whataboutism?
To say that corruption in the US is comparable with Russia is laughable. Authoritarian corruption in Russia is the system.

 

[Sketch]

It’s meaningless. The Russians always support ANY American who opposes American foreign military intervention. The idea that you therefore become a ‘Russian asset’ unless you support ceaseless American military intervention is absurd.

This is where the line has been drawn in the sand. Democrats are now openly calling people 'Russian assets' if they don't agree with American intervention overseas. What the hell is going on?