Elections Is Tulsi Gabbard a Russian asset?

[SBJJ]

There really is something wrong with Americans. How can any American support staying in Syria 1 more day?

Imagine China arming millions of white supremacists within the US in attempt to overthrow the government. Then when the US military fights back the Chinese send troops inside the US and carve out a third of America to be land for those white supremacists and their allies.

How on Gods green earth can anyone think we are the good guys.

The most disturbing thing is that Assad was one of the more moderate leaders/dictators. But then again, so was Gaddafi

 

[Last Samurai]

Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Columbia University:

I think we have to step back and not put this in partisan terms. This is a US mistake that started seven years ago. I remember the day when President Obama said, "Assad must go", and I looked at you and Joe and I said, "Huh. How is he going to do that? Where's the policy for that?"

We know they sent the CIA in to overthrow Assad. The CIA and Saudi Arabia together in covert operations tried to overthrow Assad. It was a disaster. Eventually it brought in both ISIS as a splinter group to the jihadists that went in. It also brought in Russia. So we have been digging in deeper and deeper and deeper.

What we should do now is get out and not continue to throw missiles, not have a confrontation with Russia. Seven years has been a disaster under Obama, continuing under Trump. This is what I would call the "permanent state"---the CIA, the Pentagon---wanting to keep Iran and Russia out of Syria. There's no way to do that, so we have made a proxy war in Syria. It has killed 500,000 people and displaced 10 million, and predictably so because I predicted it seven years ago that there was no way to do this and that it would make complete chaos.

So what I would plead to President Trump is: get out. Like his instinct told him, by the way. That was his instinct. But then all the establishment---New York Times, The Washington Post, the Pentagon---everyone told him, "no, that's irresponsible." But his instinct was right.

After the debate in which Tulci Gabbard said that the U.S. needs to end it's policy of "regime change war", the MSM was quick to accuse her of spreading lies.

But the truth is she is one of the few candidates that really understands the situation, and she is willing to put it out there.

Anyone who doubts that should watch this video.

 

[MicroBrew]

There really is something wrong with Americans. How can any American support staying in Syria 1 more day?

Imagine China arming millions of white supremacists within the US in attempt to overthrow the government. Then when the US military fights back the Chinese send troops inside the US and carve out a third of America to be land for those white supremacists and their allies.

How on Gods green earth can anyone think we are the good guys.

The most disturbing thing is that Assad was one of the more moderate leaders/dictators. But then again, so was Gaddafi

The troops stationed there were a barrier to Turkish aggression. Your analogy is more aptly applied to the Turks since they supported Jihadists and now they have sent their army into Syria.

 

[kpt018]

That’s like calling somebody a ‘Jewish tool’ because your positions coincide with those of Israeli foreign policy. It’s an absurd slur ... if you oppose intensive American intervention against Russia and Assad, then you are dubbed a ‘Russian asset.’ At least McCarthyism was kind of cool and fervent the first time around. This redux is awful and embarrassing.

Put some of them are not only positions, they’re lies. A better comparison would be is a candidate was repeating Nazi propaganda and then getting mad if someone wonders if they’re a Nazi. Sure, it could be a coincidence that she is consistently repeating Russian propaganda but one has to wonder.

It’s completely bizarre to introduce race as an analogy here.

Leaving aside the question of whether she’s an asset or not, her comments completely disqualify her, right?

 

[kpt018]

"From the beginning" meaning when she started her campaign. She became the enemy of the establishment Dems and Hillary when she stood down from the DNC and endorsed Bernie in 2016. There are certified documents and e-mails showing the DNC's displeasure with her for endorsing Bernie instead of Hillary. She was being groomed as the leader of the party and she called them out on rigging the election. The Russia talk didn't start until after all of this went down.

This is the establishment vs. people that threaten their power and status quo. There's a reason why the DNC hates people like Bernie and Tulsi while supporting people like Biden, Harris and Mayor Pete. They won't rock the boat.

Dissenting from the DNC’s preferred candidate is a gigantic stretch from saying there’s an effort to undermine her candidacy. It’s pure CT bullshit.

She lied about this when she didn’t make the debate but the truth is she didn’t have the #s, like other fringe candidates, to make the stage.

 

[kpt018]

Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Columbia University:

I think we have to step back and not put this in partisan terms. This is a US mistake that started seven years ago. I remember the day when President Obama said, "Assad must go", and I looked at you and Joe and I said, "Huh. How is he going to do that? Where's the policy for that?"

We know they sent the CIA in to overthrow Assad. The CIA and Saudi Arabia together in covert operations tried to overthrow Assad. It was a disaster. Eventually it brought in both ISIS as a splinter group to the jihadists that went in. It also brought in Russia. So we have been digging in deeper and deeper and deeper.

What we should do now is get out and not continue to throw missiles, not have a confrontation with Russia. Seven years has been a disaster under Obama, continuing under Trump. This is what I would call the "permanent state"---the CIA, the Pentagon---wanting to keep Iran and Russia out of Syria. There's no way to do that, so we have made a proxy war in Syria. It has killed 500,000 people and displaced 10 million, and predictably so because I predicted it seven years ago that there was no way to do this and that it would make complete chaos.

So what I would plead to President Trump is: get out. Like his instinct told him, by the way. That was his instinct. But then all the establishment---New York Times, The Washington Post, the Pentagon---everyone told him, "no, that's irresponsible." But his instinct was right.

I can quote a bunch of experts that will confirm our presence there is absolutely not for regime change. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t considered. Gabbard is still lying, though.

 

[kpt018]

Btw, I am with people who say that Clinton should cut this shit out (interjecting herself into issues like this). What she did do was feed into Gabbard’s claims about the DNC and gave her a narrative. This gave her a big name to respond to.

I think people in the DNC were concerned about a Stein like 3rd party run and are trying to cut that off. Someone less radioactive should have delivered the message though.

 

[Last Samurai]

I can quote a bunch of experts that will confirm our presence there is absolutely not for regime change. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t considered. Gabbard is still lying, though.

Of course you can. That is the version of the story being repeated all over mainstream media - that America is not interested in Assad, they are only there to fight ISIS.

The problem is that story doesn't make much sense when you consider the fact that America started getting involved in 2011, while ISIS did not exist until 2013.

So clearly their reasons for getting involved in Syria goes beyond simply fighting terrorism, and if you consider how many times they have said "Assad must go", that may be a clue.

 

[giusti825]

It’s like you ignored my post. She’s literally repeating Russian propaganda and it causes her physical pain to attempt a bad word about Putin and Assad. And did you see her bonkers video today? She blasted the DNC as engaging a concerted effort to undermine her campaign “from the beginning” which is pure CT (and also good ole fashioned Russian tactics).

This goes beyond Russia supporting her. There are huge red flags. Like I said, I can’t be sure of her intentions but it’s super fishy. And it’s ludicrous to slam people who point it out. At best she’s an unwilling Russian asset.

The world would be a better place if it were painful to be this stupid.

Being anti-war doesn't make you an asset of anybody.

That would be like me going around calling all the warmongers 'satan assets', simply because they believe in the use mass murder, siege warfare and collective punishment for profit even when no viable threat is present.

Calling someone an 'asset' means nothing. Its neuro-linguistic programming designed to get people to go along with wars that do nothing to make america safer while costing us trillions of dollars.

Iraq never attacked the US. Libya never attacked the US. Somalia never attacked the US. Sudan never attacked the US. Syria never attacked the US. Yemen never attacked the US. Iran never attacked the US.

Why are we squandering tax dollars blowing all these places up? It only makes our country much less safe, it creates a complete lack of trust in our intentions around the world.

 

[Happy Man]

I can quote a bunch of experts that will confirm our presence there is absolutely not for regime change. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t considered. Gabbard is still lying, though.

And they’d be Lying

 

[AlexDB9]

FRT.
Full retard thread.

I don’t think that people who believe in the “green new deal” are allowed to say the word “retard”. Mentally challenged people are much smarter than that. I can’t say the same for the goofs


....As for the thread of course she is! Hildog doesn’t lie! ...and Jil better calm the fuck down before she’s put on suicide watch...

 

[WhiteMousse]

I guess I would need to hear why she thinks Tushi is a Russian asset. Is it just because? Is it just an insult or is there actual reason to suspect her? Genuine question.

One thing is for certain-- Tulsi Gabbard has remarkable and ample assets.

 

[WhiteMousse]

I think you have your facts wrong. Let me correct the record.

"You know, it truly is remarkable how obsessed he remains with me. But this latest tweet is so typical of him. Nothing has been more examined and looked at than my e-mails. We all know that. So he's either lying or delusional, or both. There was no subpoena, as he says in a tweet this morning. So maybe there does need to be a rematch. Obviously, I can beat him again."

This is a quote... of Hillary? She's talking about Trump?

 

[giusti825]

Um, there is indisputable evidence that the Russians are absolutely supporting her campaign (even Gabbard won’t dispute it) and her line about our presence in Syria is a regime change war (not only a lie but taken from Russian propaganda), her unwillingness to speak a bad work about putin or Assad, etc..

I’d love to hear you elaborate on this and your posting is typically top notch but this is a terrible take.

You clearly didn't follow the Syrian war as it was/is unfolding. Do some research, we were funding and arming the Kurds and the "moderate rebels" (aka Jaish al-Islam) because we cared more about overthrowing Assad than we did about fighting terrorism.

Tulsi introduced the "stop funding and arming terrorists act" for a reason. She knew who our ground forces in the fight actually were.

 

[DespicablePeep]

CNN worried about Russia influence in 2020 is just rich, nothing substantial was found in the last election, yet they still use Russia as an excuse for Hillary Clinton, traditional media has gone to the gutter indeed or at least internet made it easier for us to see how corrupt they are.

Would be nice seeing Tulsi getting the nomination, she is damn better than all the old folk running.

 

[DespicablePeep]

Um, there is indisputable evidence that the Russians are absolutely supporting her campaign (even Gabbard won’t dispute it) and her line about our presence in Syria is a regime change war (not only a lie but taken from Russian propaganda), her unwillingness to speak a bad work about putin or Assad, etc..

I’d love to hear you elaborate on this and your posting is typically top notch but this is a terrible take.

Oh Jesus, people can´t be this dumb

 

[giusti825]

Voting on whether to unite with a country while militarily occupied by said country isn't democracy.
It's about as valid as the "referendum" in West Papua to join Indonesia.

Hmmm....sounds like youve been getting your news from sources outside of crimea.

I get my news from reputable journalists who actually GO to the countries and get their stories first-hand.

If you're getting your news from people payed $30,000 a day to read off a teleprompter, youre part of the problem.

Our media conglomerates our bought and paid for by our military and medical industral complexes.

This is what a journalist does:


This is what a $30,000 a day repeater (cant in good conscience call him a reporter) sitting in a studio reading off a teleprompter does:

 

[kpt018]

The world would be a better place if it were painful to be this stupid.

Being anti-war doesn't make you an asset of anybody.

That would be like me going around calling all the warmongers 'satan assets', simply because they believe in the use mass murder, siege warfare and collective punishment for profit even when no viable threat is present.

Calling someone an 'asset' means nothing. Its neuro-linguistic programming designed to get people to go along with wars that do nothing to make america safer while costing us trillions of dollars.

Iraq never attacked the US. Libya never attacked the US. Somalia never attacked the US. Sudan never attacked the US. Syria never attacked the US. Yemen never attacked the US. Iran never attacked the US.

Why are we squandering tax dollars blowing all these places up? It only makes our country much less safe, it creates a complete lack of trust in our intentions around the world.

Well, dummy, maybe read what I wrote and address that. I listed reasons beyond being anti-war.

This shit is so dishonest. You have to go out of your way to interpret what I said as being anti-war makes you a Russian asset.

 

[kpt018]

You clearly didn't follow the Syrian war as it was/is unfolding. Do some research, we were funding and arming the Kurds and the "moderate rebels" (aka Jaish al-Islam) because we cared more about overthrowing Assad than we did about fighting terrorism.

Tulsi introduced the "stop funding and arming terrorists act" for a reason. She knew who our ground forces in the fight actually were.

I'm actually deferring to experts on the topic. I'll go with them over some random asshole on Sherdog.

 

[Low Test With da Best]

Hillary Clinton has no credibility, is a pathological liar and sociopath, and is still trying to reinforce the narrative that Russians are everywhere.

Hey man, she's just trying to get home safe to her what happened.