Is Jon Jones fastest and quickest HW ever?

[ThaiSexPills]

In terms of striking he has coasted against everyone, including Ngannou.

No he didn’t lol and he almost got flattened by Tai Tuivasa. There’s levels to this, being a pillow fisted, one dimensional kickboxer with no grappling at all night get you to the top 10 but not much further than that.

 

[gentel]

I thought he was pretty fast until he fought Jones tbh.

Gane still is the fastest or 2nd fastest HW, he just played FIFA instead of training his TDD or grappling. But getting guillotined doesn't mean he's slow on the feet

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

How you can compare Gane vs JDS? Gane is miles faster!

Noob

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

No he didn’t lol and he almost got flattened by Tai Tuivasa. There’s levels to this, being a pillow fisted, one dimensional kickboxer with no grappling at all night get you to the top 10 but not much further than that.

Thank you

Man the people on this forum are such noobs lol

Don't know shit about fighting

 

[RedDevilFan]

Gane is not that good dude, get over it. He got very lucky with favorable matchups against fat, sloppy brawlers who don’t grapple and his luck almost ran out against Tuivasa.

Is this a sarcastic comment ? I cannot tell

So if gane is not that good how does he win all those fights. Only two champions beat him in jones and Ngannou. If he got lucky against brawlers who do not grapple, then how did he beat Spivac so easily. Who is a very good wrestler and who could not get Gane down and was out grappled by Gane.





Gane is the most technical striker at HW. There is a reason he turned Ngannou into a part time wrestler and a cuck, Aspinall can't do that. Gane tried to gdt flashy on Tuivasa and put his hand on Tuivasa;s head, and got caught with an overhand trying to get cute. He was beating Tuivasa with no issue and literally collapsed him in the cage. He beat Tuivasa from post to post.

 

[-Sideways-]

Jones isn't even top 10 when it comes to the fastest HW's of all time.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

No he didn’t lol and he almost got flattened by Tai Tuivasa. There’s levels to this, being a pillow fisted, one dimensional kickboxer with no grappling at all night get you to the top 10 but not much further than that.

Got caught once by Tuivasa yeah, otherwise complete domination. Almost like Leon vs Nate Diaz.

 

[r-harper-1]

Fedor imo

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Is this a sarcastic comment ? I cannot tell

So if gane is not that good how does he win all those fights. Only two champions beat him in jones and Ngannou. If he got lucky against brawlers who do not grapple, then how did he beat Spivac so easily. Who is a very good wrestler and who could not get Gane down and was out grappled by Gane.





Gane is the most technical striker at HW. There is a reason he turned Ngannou into a part time wrestler and a cuck, Aspinall can't do that. Gane tried to gdt flashy on Tuivasa and put his hand on Tuivasa;s head, and got caught with an overhand trying to get cute. He was beating Tuivasa with no issue and literally collapsed him in the cage. He beat Tuivasa from post to post.

No sarcasm, he got by on favorable matchups and got manhandled by grappling in his last 2. The notion he’s some elite world beater is just ridiculous. He’s a temu version of Pereira without the power.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Thank you

Man the people on this forum are such noobs lol

Don't know shit about fighting

I’ve been bashing Gane since before the N’Gannou fight. I don’t get the hype at all. He’s technically solid mostly but hittable, lacks power and has absolutely zero grappling. The notion he’s anything other than a guy they can bring in to style on fat brawlers like Tai is dead wrong.

 

[RedDevilFan]

No sarcasm, he got by on favorable matchups and got manhandled by grappling in his last 2. The notion he’s some elite world beater is just ridiculous. He’s a temu version of Pereira without the power.

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He just put a beating on Spivac who is one of the better wrestlers at HW.

I’ve been bashing Gane since before the N’Gannou fight. I don’t get the hype at all. He’s technically solid mostly but hittable, lacks power and has absolutely zero grappling. The notion he’s anything other than a guy they can bring in to style on fat brawlers like Tai is dead wrong.

If that is the case how come Spivac could not do that to Gane. If he has zero grappling he cannot do that to Spivac.There is no one better than Gane at HW when it comes to striking, so the fat brawlers comment makes zero sense. He does that to any striker, not just fat brawlers. That includes the former reigning nightmare in Ngannou who he turned into a wrestling puppy. No one is touching him in terms of striking, not even Tom.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

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He just put a beating on Spivac who is one of the better wrestlers at HW.



If that is the case how come Spivac could not do that to Gane. If he has zero grappling he cannot do that to Spivac.There is no one better than Gane at HW when it comes to striking, so the fat brawlers comment makes zero sense. He does that to any striker, not just fat brawlers. That includes the former reigning nightmare in Ngannou who he turned into a wrestling puppy. No one is touching him in terms of striking, not even Tom.

Walt Harris knocked out Spivac…,enough said. He’s not good.

Almeida, Blaydes, Aspinall and Pavlovich all beat the brakes off of him. It’s funny how guys are mesmerized because he’s mobile in there and willing to overlook everything else.

Whatever. Agree to disagree, I don’t think he’s good. That being said, he probably gets past Volkov this weekend. I won’t be excited to see it though, it’ll likely be another boring snooze fest of “technical” kickboxing..

 

[orca]

N’Gannou was a guy who was heavily, heavily criticized for having no grappling. He blew his knee out and was still able to outgrapple Gane to a victory. Francis N’Gannou of all people…

Enough said. What Jones did to him is just the icing on the cake. He’s incapable of grappling and will get smashed by any HW with even halfway decent grappling. Blaydes, Almedia, Aspinall, Pavlovich..

pretty sure all fighters fight with injuries
jones snapping his toes live while ragdolling someone

pretty sure u didnt watched the fight
outgrappled? gane outclinched him and did more damage
clinch is a part of grappling too

nganou didnt do damage on the ground as well (thats what you call grappling?)

can you present me an evidence that jones wont outgrapple Blaydes, Almedia, Aspinall, Pavlovich..?

 

[orca]

Walt Harris knocked out Spivac…,enough said. He’s not good.

Almeida, Blaydes, Aspinall and Pavlovich all beat the brakes off of him. It’s funny how guys are mesmerized because he’s mobile in there and willing to overlook everything else.

Whatever. Agree to disagree, I don’t think he’s good. That being said, he probably gets past Volkov this weekend. I won’t be excited to see it though, it’ll likely be another boring snooze fest of “technical” kickboxing..

the man has like 8 submissions more than aspinal
how can you say hes not a good grappler lol

 

[RedDevilFan]

Walt Harris knocked out Spivac…,enough said. He’s not good.

Almeida, Blaydes, Aspinall and Pavlovich all beat the brakes off of him. It’s funny how guys are mesmerized because he’s mobile in there and willing to overlook everything else.

Whatever. Agree to disagree, I don’t think he’s good. That being said, he probably gets past Volkov this weekend. I won’t be excited to see it though, it’ll likely be another boring snooze fest of “technical” kickboxing..

Spivac is one of the best wrestlers at HW currently. It is not about Gane putting a beating on Spivac in the standup as that is nothing special. It is about Gane defending the takedowns and his ability to outgrapple a competent grappler.

Gane showcased that he can shut down a top HW grappler in spivac competently. Spivacs style is similar to Almeidas, good grappling and shit striking.

All the other fighters you mentioned outside of Aspinall, who would beat the breaks off of Gane are at a huge disadvantage in the striking department to entertain that they beat the breaks off of anyone close to Ganes talent. Ganes spivac fight showed that he is becoming alot more proficient in his wrestling and grappling. Coupled with his speed, striking, and the way he moves makes him a difficult fight for anyone.

 

[Marko Polo]

This is all the forum is these days…

 

[Lord Pyjamas]

What a great thread we should have more of these!
Really getting into the techniques and stuff.

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

I’ve been bashing Gane since before the N’Gannou fight. I don’t get the hype at all. He’s technically solid mostly but hittable, lacks power and has absolutely zero grappling. The notion he’s anything other than a guy they can bring in to style on fat brawlers like Tai is dead wrong.

He's a good fighter but wouldn't be a top 5 HW in the last two generations. He'd have a hard time being top 10 in the last meta of HWs.

 

[Xanzito]

Gane is not that good dude, get over it. He got very lucky with favorable matchups against fat, sloppy brawlers who don’t grapple and his luck almost ran out against Tuivasa.

Most of the top guys have no problem with Gane. Pavlovich, Blaydes, Aspinall, Almedia.. i think there’s a lot of guys who can beat him. N’Gannou on one knee outgrappled him.

Jon is kind of slow at HW. That Stipe fight looked like it was in slow motion. He’s average probably, at this point in his career

Idk, think we still need 4 or 5 more undeserved title shots to be sure.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Fedor was very fast. Tom is crazy fast for a HW, faster than Gane. There have been some smaller HWs that were very quick.