Is Bo the biggest bust since Royce Alger??

GordoBarraBJJ said:
So hurt that he popped right back up after the stoppage.

He wanted out and found it in that knee.

BTW - bo fans are more sensitive than ian garry fans from the responses the past few days.
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Lionheart7167 said:
I don't like Bo, but I would hardly call him a bust yet.

Cejudo got smoked by DJ in their first fight, then lost a decision effectively killing his hype, at least momentarily.
He came back, beat DJ, and went on to have an all star career.

If Bo comes back and gets 2-3 impressive wins, then wins a title, no one will call him a bust.
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Getting smoked by the goat of your division in a title fight is a far cry from quitting because of strikes against a barely-ranked pure grappler.
 
chardog said:
it was an accumulation of body shots, not just one, Bo was thoroughly destroyed, I dont see how he "folded" as if he had quit in him, there's only so much damage you can take, dude couldnt even panick wrestle, he was so hurt.
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Thank you for pointing this out. I was starting to second guess what I saw, but then rewatched it twice and then decided that once again, sherdoggers who most likely never have trained or fought, could not tell what they were actually seeing and poured out their vitriol on someone that they already did not like.

With that said, this loss could be the best thing for him. It will show him whether he has the will to adjust and adapt (something every wrestler at his level has endured to some extent) or do something else. Unless he desperately needs money or is completely stubborn and dumb, he will, most likely, not fight like this again.
 
chardog said:
it was an accumulation of body shots, not just one, Bo was thoroughly destroyed, I dont see how he "folded" as if he had quit in him, there's only so much damage you can take, dude couldnt even panick wrestle, he was so hurt.
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He looked like he was about to cry when he was stuck against the fence eating short punches to the head 30 seconds or so before the finishing knee. He also only tried to throw a punch or two back.

You rarely see fighters having that bad of a poker face.
 
prime_lobov said:
Getting smoked by the goat of your division in a title fight is a far cry from quitting because of strikes against a barely-ranked pure grappler.
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True, but in the end it won't matter if Bo goes on a tear and starts winning big fights.
Remember when hardcores thought Islam was a bust because he got KO'ed in his second UFC fight against a journeyman?
No one else does either now..... and RDR is a MUCH better fighter than Adriano Martins.
I'm not saying Bo is going to be Islam. All i"m saying is that it's way too early to tell. If Bo comes back with a vengeance no one will care.
 
Being a great wrestler (or any combat sport athlete) isn't a golden ticket for being a successful MMA fighter. Credentialed wrestlers flame out regularly, yet every time one decides to be a fighter, people anoint him as a blue chip prospect.

Bo still has time to develop, but he obviously has a lot of work to do.
 
RockyLockridge said:
It's my personal belief that Dana made a muti-million dollar bet with lorenzo wagering that dana could take any random ginger and make him UFC champion with clever fight selection and promotion; Lorenzo maintains that no ginger can be a UFC champ no matter how you skew the promoting and match making. I can imagine that dana maybe said something like "Gimme 20 years, And I'll make it happen."


Dana has already burned through Sam Alvey (he tried a LONG LONG time with this one), Shahbazyan, Spike Carlyle, Ed herman, and Paul Felder. Bo is his great white hope, and Time is very clearly running out as we can tell by how aggressively he's marketing Bo. If i had to guess, He only has about 1 year left to make a ginger UFC champion before he has to pay up.
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Isn't Conor some sort of ginger?
 
I don't know? it was an honest to goodness beatdown, but De Ridder was a pretty wild step up in competition.

Nickal has the wrestling to hang with anyone on the planet, but seeing his striking on display in his last few fights, he had no business in there last weekend with this level of competition.
 
188912345 said:
He looked like he was about to cry when he was stuck against the fence eating short punches to the head 30 seconds or so before the finishing knee. He also only tried to throw a punch or two back.

You rarely see fighters having that bad of a poker face.
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he tried to play pockerface with the early knees, him keeping his mid section bottled up while taking blows to the face almost felt like Lesnar vs Reem, dude was getting cooked.
 
Dana called Phillipe Nover a future star and the next GSP. That's a bigger bust imo
 
Bo Nickal and I were never friends....
 
Lionheart7167 said:
I don't like Bo, but I would hardly call him a bust yet.

Cejudo got smoked by DJ in their first fight, then lost a decision effectively killing his hype, at least momentarily.
He came back, beat DJ, and went on to have an all star career.

If Bo comes back and gets 2-3 impressive wins, then wins a title, no one will call him a bust.
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Cejudo lost badly to the arguably the greatest ever mma fighter and had shown a fantastic varied game between grappling, clinching, striking, and is an Olympic Gold Medalist. Bo hasn't shown great athleticism even in mma grappling, let alone striking.

The dude is a phenomenal wrestler, but not everyone translates across. He's shown nothing in MMA that says he's here to compete at a top 10 level and I don't think he's even close.

For the divisions sake I do hope he actually develops a striking game and figures out how to effectively incorporate his obviously top tier wrestling. So far he's afraid of grappling with submission artists and seems to believe he's a much better striker than he is.

He's only a bust if you believed he was a future champ, but at no point in any of his fights has he shown even a glimmer of that being a possibility.

Granted after my many assessments of DDP maybe i have no idea wtf a future champ looks like..
 
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GordoBarraBJJ said:
Really depends on on he takes this loss; however, the way he reacted to pressure and being the nail didn't look good. He folded as soon as the fight got hard.

I keep hearing about, well that knee was right on the button - well if that is true he would have been laid out much longer, he was right back up after taking that knee.

Anyhow, he has a lot to work on - probably needs to go back to crushing cans for a few fights then step up again and then we'll have the answer.

And he reminds me more of David Terrell - big hype, crushing guys that he was supposed to then ran into a hardened hammer in the form of Evan Tanner. Lost and never really recovered from it. The way that he reacted as soon as the fight got hard, he wanted out prior to the knee that dropped him, reminds me of Terrell.
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Bo has struggled with the aforementioned cans…really the only crushing that’s occurred is Bo himself getting crushed by RDR.
 
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