Insufferable

[Taric]

 

[Poirierfan]

I like izzy but last night was WAY over the top and just a horrible look. As far as being the most insufferable on the roster he doesnt even come close to guys like Jones or Connor. Actions > words in my opinion. Izzy certainly has some mental problems, but until he starts assaulting / beating up women or old men, crashing cars, etc etc. He will never be above connor or Jones on the asshole list. My list in order would be Connor, Jones, Izzy/Strickland, Colby, Sterling.

Pretty respectable insufferable list you have there.

 

[Superzorro]

Say exactly what DPP is guilty of. I keep getting “look it up” but I can’t find anything of substance. Say it

If DDP said he was going to be the next African champion, no one would have cared. He probably would have been embraced by all of the other African fighters in the UFC, short of Adesanya (for obvious reasons). But instead he decided to say he and his training partner were the only ones who were “real” Africans, and put himself above people who are African nationally and ethnically (which he’s not). It’s just severely lacking in logic and clearly meant to stir up controversy. He’s getting the controversy he asked for, but now playing the victim which is extremely cowardly and lame for a grown man to do.

well that tells you something either everyone is racist , or perhaps, heres a novel concept, Izzy was out of line...

I love when people give you ultimatums in debates like this. “You can only believe these two things that I’ve lined out for you, otherwise my argument falls apart— now pick one.”

In reality, it’s not “everyone.” Maybe a majority of people. But even if it was everyone like you’re saying, that’s just an appeal to majority/belief. And what Adesanya did is not out of line and pretty standard for fighters who don’t like each other.

 

[scoobster]

Even worse than Conor?

Easily

 

[scoobster]

Can you imagine how devastated Izzy would be if he lost to DDP? China might have to disown him.

<[analyzed}>

 

[GoshiShun17]

The irony is that most all the people who are all upset and clutching their pearls about what Izzy said are the first ones to call people snowflakes for being offended by words and also more than likely they use the N word with the hard R on a daily basis.

Bingo. Any other time they are complaining about how society is too easily offended. Yet for some odd reason this really has their panties in a bunch.

Like really people are acting like this is the worst thing they ever witnessed. One idiot said Adesanya should be locked up. Talk about overly sensitive.

 

[Khamzat]

After last night Izzy holds the title for the most insufferable UFC fighter on the entire roaster for me. Like a friend of mine said, Izzy always seems to be having an identity crisis, he's fake as fuck imo. Here's to DDP shutting that dude up.

Interesting side note for people not in the know: Izzy had servants growing up. He actually had a "personal bathing servant". It all totally makes sense now imo, mystery solved. Lol

This sells, man.
This is the world we live in, a lot of aggression with the new generations

 

[MMAcolyte]

Well technically he probably hasn’t descended from Africa originally. But at the end of the day that really has nothing to do with being African. In fact from what I hear there is reverse discrimination in SA so DDP has probably experienced some of that I would imagine; this is probably why he called izzy out initially on not living in Africa Both sides should have just shut up but they didn’t and I’m kind of glad because I’m am probably a million times more amped for this fight than I would have been without it…

Well technically we've all probably descended from Africa originally.

 

[Elvis.]

It’s still Strickland for me , he always sounds like a mentally incompetent gang banger

 

[Paladin]

If DDP said he was going to be the next African champion, no one would have cared. He probably would have been embraced by all of the other African fighters in the UFC, short of Adesanya (for obvious reasons). But instead he decided to say he and his training partner were the only ones who were “real” Africans, and put himself above people who are African nationally and ethnically (which he’s not). It’s just severely lacking in logic and clearly meant to stir up controversy. He’s getting the controversy he asked for, but now playing the victim which is extremely cowardly and lame for a grown man to do.


I love when people give you ultimatums in debates like this. “You can only believe these two things that I’ve lined out for you, otherwise my argument falls apart— now pick one.”

In reality, it’s not “everyone.” Maybe a majority of people. But even if it was everyone like you’re saying, that’s just an appeal to majority/belief. And what Adesanya did is not out of line and pretty standard for fighters who don’t like each other.

I took it as DPP saying we are true born, bred and trained African champs.

more than Izzy or Marty in the sense that he is 100% based in Africa, unlike other two who left as kids and were raised, educated, trained and housed overseas.

I took it as DPP saying as it relates to MMA, he is more African based than the other three who don’t reside or train there.

“We breathe African air. We wake up in Africa every day. We train in Africa, we’re Africa born, we’re Africa raised, we still reside in Africa, we train out of Africa. That’s an African champion, and that’s who I’ll be.”


Maybe let’s define what “African” means in this context.

 

[Steve Fox]

If DDP takes the belt to Africa and gets a custom African belt (like Yair's) it will be a great moment in MMA.

That's a lot to ask, but it would be amazing.

South Africa style it would be made of ivory and crocodile skin.

 

[jeff7b9]

I am pretty sure Izzy is the source and that he has come right out and said he had servants growing up.

I know he had a privileged life growing up and I'm not too fond of the dude either but this has got to be hyperbole, right? ... right?

It's still a mystery, but it could be a true mystery.

 

[Superzorro]

I took it as DPP saying we are true born, bred and trained African champs.

more than Izzy or Marty in the sense that he is 100% based in Africa, unlike other two who left as kids and were raised, educated, trained and housed overseas.

I took it as DPP saying as it relates to MMA, he is more African based than the other three who don’t reside or train there.

“We breathe African air. We wake up in Africa every day. We train in Africa, we’re Africa born, we’re Africa raised, we still reside in Africa, we train out of Africa. That’s an African champion, and that’s who I’ll be.”


Maybe let’s define what “African” means in this context.

DuPlessis doesn’t get to define what African means and change the rules to suit him and invalidate the people who came before him. Especially if he’s only “African” due to nationality, and the country that makes him so is a British colony and the least culturally African on the entire continent.
The UFC disagrees with this new definition he created because they’ve already crowned several African UFC champions.
And judging from the homecoming that Ngannou received when he returned to Cameroon, most actual Africans on the continent (both ethnically and nationally unlike DuPlessis) would disagree with him as well.


This would be like Alexander Volkanovski (with the Russian last name similar to DuPlessis being a Dutch last name) saying he’s the first Oceanic fighter to headline a UFC card, over Mark Hunt because Hunt trained at American Top Team and therefore it invalidates him from being an Oceanic fighter despite being a literal Samoan born in New Zealand— and that he’s more Oceanic. You’re not more Oceanic than a Samoan. Sorry buddy.

 

[Superzorro]

I am pretty sure Izzy is the source and that he has come right out and said he had servants growing up.

All right, so that I can respond to this. What exactly are you trying to prove with this information? What are we equating having maids to? There are Americans who have maids, and Arabic people in Muslim countries who have maids. What does this mean?

 

[jeff7b9]

All right, so that I can respond to this. What exactly are you trying to prove with this information? What are we equating having maids to? There are Americans who have maids, and Arabic people in Muslim countries who have maids. What does this mean?

It means exactly what it says.

Izzy said he grew up with servants.

 

[Superzorro]

It means exactly what it says.

Izzy said he grew up with servants.

Ok and? Is this part of a greater point? Or just a fun fact?

 

[jeff7b9]

Ok and? Is this part of a greater point? Or just a fun fact?

Fun fact I suppose if those are the options to choose from.

It's a thing izzy said.

 

[Superzorro]

Fun fact I suppose if those are the options to choose from.

It's a thing izzy said.

Anything to add to the actual discussion?

 

[jeff7b9]

Anything to add to the actual discussion?

Just facts sir.

If you choose to have an emotional reaction to them that is on you.

 

[Superzorro]

Just facts sir.

If you choose to have an emotional reaction to them that is on you.

Asking what a person means isn’t having an emotional reaction. Why do you think that?