It's incredulity that people prop up things they oppose in reality and which otherwise still wouldn't exist in the west if it were it up to them. The world at large preemptively politicized, made a defining characteristic out of and created the LGB collective a long time (read: centuries) before it ever had the chance to do that itself.
The level of opposition is what ought to be considered here. I may be an opponent of the LGBT collective, but not an opponent of theirs to a point where I'd wish to see them whipped in public (this probably has more to do with me possessing enough intelligence to see where that road leads, than any lingering sympathies). Outside of having gender-bender bullshit and degenerate displays pushed down people's throats, I don't have that big of a problem with it. I don't think the fall of the West will occur just because gay people exist. If I've read correctly into your posts, you aren't that keen on these recent "developments" either. In some circles, certainly, you'd be seen as someone who isn't "enthusiastic" enough about progression, and thus, a contributor to the wrong side of history.
You're not going to see me whining about "gay Jesus" or whatever, you're going to see me whining about phenomenons that frankly, are a legitimate threat to emasculate and confuse the West. And if that were to happen with the LGBT collective playing a prominent role, they can hardly complain if subsequent generations come to associate LGBT with subversion.
The legacies and contributions of Frederick the Great, Leonardo da Vinci, etc. are hardly going to matter if the most recent thing of prominence associated with it, are bearded dudes in drag, men winning women's sports competitions, fundamentalist Muslims walking side-by-side with LGBT operatives to protest the West, etc. I think it's in everyone's best interests that this shit is wrapped up as quickly as possible.
There's few places around the globe it wasn't criminalized until the last few decades. Saddam's Iraq was already BTFO before that happened in the US nationwide. It isn't a "protected class" here, there's a large religious collective who would gladly roll things back to the 1950s - perhaps not such a bad thing culturally - and it isn't ooga booga Muslims.
America's nutjob religious collective is kind of an aberration by Western standards. The way I see it, they're gradually fading out of relevance and haven't been capable of opposing anything successfully for decades.
Bringing "ooga booga" Muslims to the equation will blow a lot more wind into those sails, I can promise you. Their vigor compared to the vigor of the average "hard-line Christian" of the 21st century, cannot even be compared.
One group is willing to straight-up die over such issues, the other is mostly capable of bitching about it in their own communities. No doubt, that's still a bitch to deal with, for any person who personally has to deal with that, but I'm just saying that a numerically significant group of Muslims with fundamentalist tendencies, is an even bigger bitch to deal with. It's all well and good in America so far with its 1% or whatever representation of mostly high in-come Muslims or converts, but it's a bit different in Europe. I'm not even kidding when I'm saying that caning people in accord with Sharia law might become a thing. Not state-imposed, but parallel-society-don't-give-a-fuck-Muslim-imposed. Who is going to stop them? Unarmed female cops?
I was virtually shoved towards it tbh, and the alternative is untenable but not much has actually changed personally. In the context of this forum, it's more to do with recognizing the fact that it can't keep the ghey out of a dirty mouth it talks from both sides of for even a single day and an increasing willingness to entertain the bullshit. And it is entertaining.
Entertaining, sure, but let's be real, I've seen people here bring up that point about you on a constant basis, and it's not just right-wingers. That obsession goes both ways. I try to stand against that obsession as much as I can, and prefer to avoid defining a person based on any single characteristic, but it's pretty tough when a lot of people nowadays define themselves as just an extension of a collective. Not saying that you do, but a lot of people do.
I was personally-speaking more entertained by you dropping knowledge on Western civilization and its achievements on the field of science and elsewhere. I do know that this is pretty much just a shit-posting forum these days and I'm no exception, but I'd still focus more on educating ignorant sons of bitches rather than just heckling them.
