Opinion Indians keep flooding Canada

[mozfonky]

I white areas, sure. Because they're the minority. If you go to an Indian store in an Indian part of a Canadian city, they can be very hostile

I'll bet, I just tell my east indian buddy, "you're people are weird" I don't get some of the things they do really. But generally, in the US, they are law abiding, quiet, pleasant and able to take the abuse people heap upon them which is a prerequisite for customer service here. Americans typically deal with all of that a lot worse. I've worked for east Indians and I have to say that they can be mean and very cheap to the point some people just won't deal with them but there are always a variety just like there are anyone else.

Of course there will always be the people who will complain that so many of these different, new people won't dress or learn the language and sometimes, the language/culture barrier is a pain in the ass but overall, I've never had an immigrant try to do the things that some of the americans in my life have with their lifestyles and religions.

After covid, for whatever reason, we had a huge surge of east-Indians, that's why I mentioned my east Indian buddy complaining about it, he really isn't in a position to complain about it. But he's right, we just suddenly have so many here, don't know what the policies or why that is happening or if there is some overarching conspiracy to change the overall world but I don't get it. As I said though, I have no control over it and those folks are generally just doing what I'm doing, just trying to survive without unnecessary problems or hurting anyone.

 

[mozfonky]

For sure, and this can be said for every ethnic group, you encounter one and he's usually very well mannered, but you encounter a group of them and they can be insufferable.

That said to be fair, the east Indians are not the worst type of migrants, they have their negatives but I would much rather deal with them than most of the type of immigrants Europe gets. The average Indian person is fairly respectful and probably won't try to blow you up or rape your woman, I'm sure out of a billion people there will be some bad apples there too, but for the most part they're fairly decent at least when it comes to public safety, etc... I live close to Brampton and I have personally never had any bad encounters with any person in a turban. I wish they would assimilate better, but I would much rather deal with them then an influx of Muslims from North Africa, or Somalia, etc...

Someone in here claimed that east-indians were responsible for all the missing indigenous women, I really doubt that. I mean, I know women in India get dogged but I doubt people coming to a foreign country would go out of their way to try that kind of stuff on a mass scale here. If I had to guess, I'd say most of these missing Indigenous women are killed by their own or white men for the most part.

 

[Andy Capp]

100%. It always comes from people that live in areas not affected by it. Or asshats like Capp who is just a troll.

LOL Keep projecting, princess. I can hardly wait to see your response to this:

Here is my issue. Can you imagine any other group moving into India and taking over? In China? In a Muslim Nation? And you just don't assimilate and practice your customs and religions right in the open with no respect to locals? Would just not be allowed. I was just in Toronto and couldn't believe it. I thought London was pretty Indian. But Toronto was startling. Wearing Sandals in the snow. We have a ton of NY born Indians here and no one hates Indian Immigrants more than them. They resent it.

One festival had a million folks.

LOL. Check out the fascist over here.

So they should practice their religion and customs behind closed doors? Openly practicing whatever the fuck religion you want is the norm in about 95% of the countries in the world now. What are you, from the 1700s?

And what kind of customs are so disrespectful to locals? Wearing sandals in the snow! Oh heavens...

 

[Deleted member 592570]

For sure, and this can be said for every ethnic group, you encounter one and he's usually very well mannered, but you encounter a group of them and they can be insufferable.

That said to be fair, the east Indians are not the worst type of migrants, they have their negatives but I would much rather deal with them than most of the type of immigrants Europe gets. The average Indian person is fairly respectful and probably won't try to blow you up or rape your woman, I'm sure out of a billion people there will be some bad apples there too, but for the most part they're fairly decent at least when it comes to public safety, etc... I live close to Brampton and I have personally never had any bad encounters with any person in a turban. I wish they would assimilate better, but I would much rather deal with them then an influx of Muslims from North Africa, or Somalia, etc...

Agreed 100%.

The problem in Canadian cities is the cities become segregated and you end up with poorer ethnic areas with rampant crime and crumbling infrastructure and rich white areas with functionally no crime and pristine roads etc.

The rich white people never go to the ethnic areas so they think the whole city is like where they live and that's why you have rich whites continually voting for these failed policies because they simply pretend these ethnic ghettos don't exist.

 

[Hog-train]

Here is my issue. Can you imagine any other group moving into India and taking over? In China? In a Muslim Nation? And you just don't assimilate and practice your customs and religions right in the open with no respect to locals? Would just not be allowed. I was just in Toronto and couldn't believe it. I thought London was pretty Indian. But Toronto was startling. Wearing Sandals in the snow. We have a ton of NY born Indians here and no one hates Indian Immigrants more than them. They resent it.

One festival had a million folks.

I mean everyone in that video was talking English... So how is that not assimilating?

 

[Bojka]

Someone in here claimed that east-indians were responsible for all the missing indigenous women, I really doubt that. I mean, I know women in India get dogged but I doubt people coming to a foreign country would go out of their way to try that kind of stuff on a mass scale here. If I had to guess, I'd say most of these missing Indigenous women are killed by their own or white men for the most part.

Statcanada released a study and it's like 90% natives who kill native women.

edit: 86%

• "Most Indigenous women and girls were killed by someone that they knew (81%), including an intimate partner (35%), acquaintance (24%), or family member (22%). In most cases, the person accused of their homicide was also Indigenous (86%)."

Court outcomes in homicides of Indigenous women and girls, 2009 to 2021

This Juristat article reviews court outcomes of cases linked to the homicides of First Nations, Métis and Inuit (Indigenous) women and girls. Using a linked data file containing records from the Homicide and Integrated Criminal Court Survey, the article examines how incidents of homicide move...

www150.statcan.gc.ca

 

[evansusmc2]

Off topic... Why no Indian MMA standouts?? Other than Arjan Bhullar they got nothing. 1.5 billion people and no contenders??

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

I talked about this year's ago. It's really a problem

 

[mozfonky]

Agreed 100%.

The problem in Canadian cities is the cities become segregated and you end up with poorer ethnic areas with rampant crime and crumbling infrastructure and rich white areas with functionally no crime and pristine roads etc.

The rich white people never go to the ethnic areas so they think the whole city is like where they live and that's why you have rich whites continually voting for these failed policies because they simply pretend these ethnic ghettos don't exist.

probably true, that's what Victor Hansen complains about with the homeless in frisco, that the neighborhoods that support them don't have to deal with them.

East Indians aren't big criminals up there are they? They aren't here at all, in fact, one thing that bugs me is that they badmouth black people for their criminality. Ya, my east-indian buddy has also mentioned the native/drinking issues, I can't disagree though.

One problem with people coming over right in the middle of things is that they have no knowledge of the history, they come in cold and just start hating, something about that doesn't seem right.

 

[mozfonky]

Off topic... Why no Indian MMA standouts?? Other than Arjan Bhullar they got nothing. 1.5 billion people and no contenders??

been threads on that. We just conjectured that Indians just aren't brought up with a lot of physicality in most of their caste or lifestyles. I think their diet is often lacking in protein too because of the hinduism.

The Indians we have never do physical work here, the latinos and euros might fill those jobs but the indians tend to do things like drive and customer service. None of those are easy jobs in my estimation. Honestly, physical work is better than dealing with customers, I would never put up with the shit they do again. I did it long enough. Customers/riders do nothing but cause problems that really, no adult should be causing.

 

[mozfonky]

Statcanada released a study and it's like 90% natives who kill native women.

edit: 86%

• "Most Indigenous women and girls were killed by someone that they knew (81%), including an intimate partner (35%), acquaintance (24%), or family member (22%). In most cases, the person accused of their homicide was also Indigenous (86%)."

Court outcomes in homicides of Indigenous women and girls, 2009 to 2021

This Juristat article reviews court outcomes of cases linked to the homicides of First Nations, Métis and Inuit (Indigenous) women and girls. Using a linked data file containing records from the Homicide and Integrated Criminal Court Survey, the article examines how incidents of homicide move...

www150.statcan.gc.ca

I'd absolutely believe that.

We are our own worst enemies, whether that's at an inter/intra-tribal basis, friends or family. I mentioned Wayne, he's never had anything positive to say about me, neither have any of my male relatives, I see it for what it is and just ignore it.

 

[evansusmc2]

been threads on that. We just conjectured that Indians just aren't brought up with a lot of physicality in most of their caste or lifestyles. I think their diet is often lacking in protein too because of the hinduism.

There are countries out there that are just as dire and have produced killers. In all weight classes

The Indians we have never do physical work here, the latinos and euros might fill those jobs but the indians tend to do things like drive and customer service. None of those are easy jobs in my estimation. Honestly, physical work is better than dealing with customers, I would never put up with the shit they do again. I did it long enough. Customers/riders do nothing but cause problems that really, no adult should be causing.

It's not what people do for a job. It's what they do before and after work. Like training.

 

[mozfonky]

There are countries out there that are just as dire and have produced killers. In all weight classes

It's not what people do for a job. It's what they do before and after work. Like training.

I'm just telling you what our answer was. Even though India is an original home of martial arts, and they've had some great wrestlers in the past, they just aren't very physical. You have to eat protein and be physical to have strength. Most of their diet is high carb and even their bodies tend to lack any kind of muscle tone. Again, it's just conjecture, I don't know but the ones I mentioned make the most sense to me. They probably could compete based on their size, other asians do and they have often been much smaller.

as far as my mentioning the job, they just seem averse to anything physical, I think, probably having to do with caste but I don't really know. Of course we know that certain castes are forbidden from doing this or that.

the jews were reputed to be people who don't do physical work or do athletic things also but in America, when the social forces affected them, we had great jewish athletes but even today, you won't find many that work with their hands as they think it's beneath them in some way.

 

[I Am Legion]

I mean everyone in that video was talking English... So how is that not assimilating?

Thats just who they interviewed lol. I am telling you, you feel like you are in India. They don't start wearing Maple Leaf Jerseys and eat at Tim Hortons. They don't. The ones born there do. They come and bring India there, and I don't blame locals for not wanting that. It is a totally different culture. And it is a strong culture. Make no mistake about it.

 

[mozfonky]

Thats just who they interviewed lol. I am telling you, you feel like you are in India. They don't start wearing Maple Leaf Jerseys and eat at Tim Hortons. They don't. The ones born there do. They come and bring India there, and I don't blame locals for not wanting that. It is a totally different culture. And it is a strong culture. Make no mistake about it.

it's not just language that's a problem it's culture, I have to take my shoes off in their houses and make all sorts of cultural compromises. None of them really undoable but some of them probably could be to other people and/or be seen as a problem. When you have people coming over here killing their daughters that's of course backwards. I heard of a case where some canadian family sent their daughter to India to be killed over her lovelife. here, we often have problems with mates and parents but it's never been seen as acceptable to just start offing some prospective in law.

they say that cultures that are too mono, or whatever a single culture is can be just as bad as no diversity. I could see that really. some say that those knife slaughters that get hushed up in china are just an expression of some societal repression and they don't have the "other" that most other cultures will have somewhere. Could be true.

Culture is a thing that even perfect english won't conquer, I've known many perfectly speaking peoples, and I am one who's always had quirky ways of doing things just because of our back ground. My Japanese mentor was american as they get on the surface but there were things that I only learned later, after we fell out, were purely japanese such as that thing with obedience and loyalty and strictness.

 

[evansusmc2]

I'm just telling you what our answer was. Even though India is an original home of martial arts, and they've had some great wrestlers in the past, they just aren't very physical.

Home of what? Compared to which countries? Which martial art?

You have to eat protein and be physical to have strength. Most of their diet is high carb and even their bodies tend to lack any kind of muscle tone. Again, it's just conjecture, I don't know but the ones I mentioned make the most sense to me. They probably could compete based on their size, other asians do and they have often been much smaller.

They do try to compete based on their size and don't even do well on the regional circuits.

the jews were reputed to be people who don't do physical work or do athletic things also but in America, when the social forces affected them, we had great jewish athletes but even today, you won't find many that work with their hands as they think it's beneath them in some way.

In Israel there are many that have physical jobs. Also there are some decent fighters that have made it to the UFC and did alright. Their Judo team does well internationally to this day.

 

[I Am Legion]

LOL. Check out the fascist over here.

So they should practice their religion and customs behind closed doors? Openly practicing whatever the fuck religion you want is the norm in about 95% of the countries in the world now. What are you, from the 1700s?

And what kind of customs are so disrespectful to locals? Wearing sandals in the snow! Oh heavens...

Typical "Look at the fascist! " Thats all you guys have. I never said it was disrespectful. I stated the truth. They don't assimilate, they take over. I have friends here in the dog that can verify my friends are the fucking UN of the world lol. I have more nonwhite friends than white friends. Just a product of where I grew up. I don't live in Toronto, but I stand by what I said....Can you imagine any other group doing this in India, China or a Muslim country? By the tens of thousands? What if a bunch of American Catholics Did an Easter Parade 250k deep in any of those countries? Would never happen.

 

[I Am Legion]

And even more times they were unfriendly and they cut off their scalps.

And were brutal to other tribes in many cases. Reality is hard for people.

 

[Hog-train]

it's not just language that's a problem it's culture, I have to take my shoes off in their houses and make all sorts of cultural compromises.

Taking off shoes in the house is a cultural compromise? WTF lol.

A lot of Americans and Canadians also take off their shoes in the house.

Thats just who they interviewed lol. I am telling you, you feel like you are in India. They don't start wearing Maple Leaf Jerseys and eat at Tim Hortons. They don't. The ones born there do. They come and bring India there, and I don't blame locals for not wanting that. It is a totally different culture. And it is a strong culture. Make no mistake about it.

I mean I have no idea. I don't live in Canada.

But it seems from the video it's just Canadians celebrating their cultural heritage and you don't like it because they're brown.

Do you have this same attitude when it's an Italian or Irish parade?

 

[mozfonky]

And were brutal to other tribes in many cases. Reality is hard for people.

in general, most of us weren't that brutal, in fact, I met a Nez Perce Indian recently and he asked if I was haida or aleut and I joked, "those are our ancient enemies" and he mentioned whether we did what the russians did (wipe out 90 percent of the eskimo's) I just replied, "you know we wouldn't do that". My people were just violent enough to run people off. Thank goodness because it's in the history books that the russians left us alone because we were "hostile". Ya, hostile to people trying to wipe out 90 percent of us.

All tribes were different and varied, they do say that one of the reasons the europeans was able to prosper was by our own naive help, ya know, thanksgiving and all.