I'm more convinced than ever that Jon Jones is suspended

[Shaddows]

Dana White says he won't think about Jon Jones fighting until 2022. The last time Jon fought was February 2020. After that fight Jon said he was "thinking of taking 2 years off".

We all know that the UFC & USADA aren't announcing anything anymore per PED tests. My bet is that Jon Jones fights shortly after Feb. 8, 2022, which would be perfectly in line with a 2 year suspension.

And if this is true, a 2 year suspension is absolutely criminal. This would be his 3rd strike which should be a lifetime ban.

Too much of a conspiracy theory.

Ok, I have one as well!!!
GSP also said he would have to need years in order to bulk up and fight at MW.
So maybe he "took a break" and instead bulked up on the down low...

...or maybe he was suspended and we all bought that "retirement" excuse???

GSP is a PED cheat!!!

 

[Alpha_T83]

Yeah, there’s something insanely wrong with people like this. They think the world revolves around them and would rather jump through a million hoops to prove a theory with zero facts behind it as opposed to believing something way more likely to be real with way less effort.

Really kid? You think the UFC hiding a suspension for one of their consistent PPV draws, which would end said fighter's career, makes no sense? That would give them MASSIVE bargaining power in negotations with Jon. They could force him to re-up for 10 fights @ $500k per, or never fight again. Dana would do that.

The UFC announced that they won't announce PED failures. This is a fact. That FORCES us to speculate. You're just being a little bitch asking for facts that you know are impossible to produce.

 

[Candy Routure]

Yes, they do. TS is just an idiot look for a conspiracy.

Jon has contested everything he’s ever done wrong. The theory isn’t that far fetched.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Jon has contested everything he’s ever done wrong. The theory isn’t that far fetched.

Thank you.

I know there's no proof, but the UFC has put us in a position that we couldn't possibly have proof of failed PED tests, since they won't announce them anymore. That means that as long as Jon contests his provisional suspension, we'd never find out. And I truly believe this opens the door for arbitration to allow for NDAs when Jon accepts sanctions, meaning we may never even find out anything when the case is resolved.

An announced PED failure or suspension for Jon would end his career. The NSAC would be forced to give him a lifetime ban, if not at least 4 years. The UFC probably want to squeeze at least a little more money out of him, so it makes sense for them to keep things quiet.

 

[kflo]

That's not a hole though. You can do whatever you want if no one knows about it.

In fact, your point SUPPORTS my theory. If they had announced his failed test and suspension, then they'd need to give him at least 4 years, if not alifetime ban. By not announcing it, they can give him a small suspension which still allows him to return and fight later.

Isn’t the hole in your conspiracy theory that they actually report every sanction? Yeah, it is.

 

[suffersystem]

Until I see evidence this is all just made up BS. There is no way JBJ is suspended and this has not leaked or come out, and the UFC somehow has other fighters now even trying to hype this false reasoning too. Just doesn't work and don't believe it for a second.

 

[kflo]

USADA would still need some internal standards. The private branch of USADA isn't bound by WADA's rules, but they still need plausible deniability of wrong-doing if a whistleblower made information public.

If they were freely sweeping PED failures under the rug for the UFC, then that would be a legal violation of their agreement with the NSAC. They could get into real trouble. However, if they are 'punishing' PED failures, they can claim they were acting in good faith.

This would, for example, allow them to give Jones a 2 year suspension for his 3rd strike, when he should be facing a lifetime ban. That is significant. And we don't know what happens with arbitration results. With the new system, arbitration could allow for an NDA to completely hide the suspension, or simply disclose an accepted sanction without the details of the alleged crime.

Lol.

 

[kflo]

Really kid? You think the UFC hiding a suspension for one of their consistent PPV draws, which would end said fighter's career, makes no sense? That would give them MASSIVE bargaining power in negotations with Jon. They could force him to re-up for 10 fights @ $500k per, or never fight again. Dana would do that.

The UFC announced that they won't announce PED failures. This is a fact. That FORCES us to speculate. You're just being a little bitch asking for facts that you know are impossible to produce.

Except they report every sanction. But call others names…

 

[bambammccoy]

His contract is good for the UFC tho. Only $500k guaranteed + PPV points, and probably his PPV points aren't huge. If you can have a fighter draw 500-600k PPV buys three times a year, that is massive. It's difficult to replace that income, and the UFC is struggling for good fights to headline cards right now.

ALSO, 'another fight or two' would no longer be true if Jon failed a PED test. Imagine that scenario: Dana would control Jon's future. One word from Dana, and Jon's PED test failure becomes public, and he's banned for life. He couldn't ever fight again, anywhere, and the UFC could retain his rights forever.

That would allow Dana to say: re-up your contract @ $500k per fight for another 10 fights, or you never fight again. That would be enough to trigger Jon's public rants we've seen.

He is at the end of his career. A couple 500k ppvs isn't worth the squeeze.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

I’m more convinced than ever that TS needs therapy

 

[kflo]

His contract is good for the UFC tho. Only $500k guaranteed + PPV points, and probably his PPV points aren't huge. If you can have a fighter draw 500-600k PPV buys three times a year, that is massive. It's difficult to replace that income, and the UFC is struggling for good fights to headline cards right now.

ALSO, 'another fight or two' would no longer be true if Jon failed a PED test. Imagine that scenario: Dana would control Jon's future. One word from Dana, and Jon's PED test failure becomes public, and he's banned for life. He couldn't ever fight again, anywhere, and the UFC could retain his rights forever.

That would allow Dana to say: re-up your contract @ $500k per fight for another 10 fights, or you never fight again. That would be enough to trigger Jon's public rants we've seen.

Yeah one word from anyone involved that the ufc and usada conspired to keep a suspension secret contrary to the public policy of the organizations would be terrible for…….jon Jones…..

 

[Superzorro]

Really kid? You think the UFC hiding a suspension for one of their consistent PPV draws, which would end said fighter's career, makes no sense? That would give them MASSIVE bargaining power in negotations with Jon. They could force him to re-up for 10 fights @ $500k per, or never fight again. Dana would do that.

The UFC announced that they won't announce PED failures. This is a fact. That FORCES us to speculate. You're just being a little bitch asking for facts that you know are impossible to produce.

They’re doing all of this and potentially destroying their billion dollar company and going to jail over a boring fighter who doesn’t draw very much and has a couple of fights left (might very well be past his prime).
Come on dude. I know you can reason better than this.
But honestly, this would make a good fiction novel or psychological/suspense/thriller film. Maybe you should think about channeling all of this nonsense into something more productive like writing.

 

[capnlarge]

Doesn't Jones get a free USADA pass for "pulsing"

 

[Juan Bombadil]

I agree

 

[The_Renaissance]

I think you have a very good point, TS. Taking a 2yr break in your prime / close to your prime, is a highly unusual thing to do. I also think he's suspended.

 

[Benoitthegr8]

Dana White says he won't think about Jon Jones fighting until 2022. The last time Jon fought was February 2020. After that fight Jon said he was "thinking of taking 2 years off".

We all know that the UFC & USADA aren't announcing anything anymore per PED tests. My bet is that Jon Jones fights shortly after Feb. 8, 2022, which would be perfectly in line with a 2 year suspension.

And if this is true, a 2 year suspension is absolutely criminal. This would be his 3rd strike which should be a lifetime ban.

If this theory was in fact reality, the timeline matches up, he fought in Feb 2020, and vacated in May 2020, the time period is about long enough for USADA to give a ruling... his last suspensions took 2 and 4 months for the USADA investigation to be concluded. The reason for vacating he basically sighted contract disagreement, yet wanted to take time off to bulk for a move up to HW for the money fights...? In social media continues making it a point to use purse disagreement with the UFC to stall fight talks from actually occurring, then Dana throws out the date of Feb 2022. The theory definitely checks out as far as timeline is concerned, additionally the UFC has continually bent backwards for Jones in the past. They have actually moved entire events ensuring that their thoroughbred had a race track to run, the UFC has also used USADA to legitimize Jones last few positive drug tests... so yeah TS, with the history of Jones failed tests and the UFC/USADA covering his tracks, this theory being true wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.
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[Tweak896]

I mean Jones could be cycling and not fighting so he can charge up before his HW debut, which makes equal sense. There would have been no negotiations if he was popped for PEDs.

 

[kflo]

I mean Jones could be cycling and not fighting so he can charge up before his HW debut, which makes equal sense. There would have been no negotiations if he was popped for PEDs.

He’s still being tested.

 

[kflo]

If this theory was in fact reality, the timeline matches up, he fought in Feb 2020, and vacated in May 2020, the time period is about long enough for USADA to give a ruling... his last suspensions took 2 and 4 months for the USADA investigation to be concluded. The reason for vacating he basically sighted contract disagreement, yet wanted to take time off to bulk for a move up to HW for the money fights...? In social media continues making it a point to use purse disagreement with the UFC to stall fight talks from actually occurring, then Dana throws out the date of Feb 2022. The theory definitely checks out as far as timeline is concerned, additionally the UFC has continually bent backwards for Jones in the past. They have actually moved entire events ensuring that their thoroughbred had a race track to run, the UFC has also used USADA to legitimize Jones last few positive drug tests... so yeah TS, with the history of Jones failed tests and the UFC/USADA covering his tracks, this theory being true wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.
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They moved an event so that event had their planned headline and they had a commission who didn’t need a hearing unlike Nevada. Nevada licensed him after their hearing.

 

[ThePunisher]

Made up theory with absolutely zero evidence, sounds legit. If it was true, then you think Dana, Jones and Ngannou all agreed on putting on a circus on Twitter for a fight negotiation that never happened because it was impossible to sanction and Jones complained about pay and changed his manager for no reason? Lol. It’s a totally nonsensical and pretty stupid idea.

The more likely scenario is he realized that he won miraculously against Reyes via robbery and barely scraped by a one-legged Santos and that he would get beaten soon, because he’s clearly not the same guy anymore. He also has more than enough money snd there’s no big fights at LHW. Ego couldn’t handle it so he made up an excuse not to have to defend at LHW. That excuse was he would move to HW. Of course the risk of losing is even bigger fighting top 3 HWs, so he will make yet another excuse (the UFC won’t pay me nuttin) and retire with a pristine record and untouched GOAT status without risking it again and without admitting he’s out of his prime, or taking any responsibility. Jones is now retired, he just won’t admit it. Pretty simple really, lay off the tinfoil.

Exactly. People with low critical thinking skills do all kinds of mental gymnastics to make their conspiracies work. A conspiracy, mind you, that would take multiple agreeing participants who gain nothing from it (or, at the very least, their "reward" wouldn't outweigh the risk). The simplest and most obvious conclusion takes less critical thinking, yet, ironically, the simple minded folk can't seem to grasp the more simpler of the conclusions.

I think the scenario is either what you just explained, or, just possibly it's a legitimate hold up (money, fear, etc). Definitely not some shadowy conspiracy involving many people covering up some suspension.