If Fedor came to UFC instead of Strikeforce, would he have had the same losing streak?

[Sweater of AV]

Excuses never end. Fedor was Juiced to the grills

What was he grilling?

This must be a @TheBulge alt account.



When you surrender you don’t get to just sign into other accounts. Walk it off like a man and come back stronger.

 

[Yellowcrab]

And here we go again.

 

[Trabaho]

Fedor was past his prime and those 3 losses were flukes anyway. Hendo was juiced and it was stopped early. He would’ve beat Werdum if he didn’t jump in his guard and Bigfoot was also juiced and it ended due to a doctors stoppage.

Fedor beat plenty of ufc heavyweights which proves he would’ve been dominant in the ufc as well

Doesn't make any sense. None of the loses were fluky at all.

He would've won vs Werdum if he didn't tap for the fight to be stopped ?

Doctor stoppage isn't a real loss ? Like Big Foot didn't smash his head in.

Hendo KO was early? I don't think so he went limp. But dirty Hendo did punch the back of his head like he did in the second Shogun fight. Well Fedor was knocked out from a legit chin punch.


Steroids ? Fedors career was in Japan where juice is legal.

But Big Foot def didn't look normal. However that didn't stop DC from beating him in the next fight.

 

[Lee_]

Bud, you need to take a break from Fedor. This doesn’t seem healthy.

This. And he isn't the only one.

Quite telling that it is mostly posters who were small children or not born during Fedor's day; context matters.

 

[Lee_]

Doesn't make any sense. None of the loses were fluky at all.

He would've won vs Werdum if he didn't tap for the fight to be stopped ?

Doctor stoppage isn't a real loss ? Like Big Foot didn't smash his head in.

Hendo KO was early? I don't think so he went limp. But dirty Hendo did punch the back of his head like he did in the second Shogun fight. Well Fedor was knocked out from a legit chin punch.


Steroids ? Fedors career was in Japan where juice is legal.

But Big Foot def didn't look normal. However that didn't stop DC from beating him in the next fight.

OK, I get that you weren't there at the time, but consider this- far lesser guys (Misaki?) and guys that Fedor dominated beat Hendo. Nog beat Werdum, and Fedor beat him twice. Fluke isn't what it was, it was Fedor going over a cliff. Like Penn, Chuck, CC, and a whole bunch of other guys who fell off a cliff- they went from dominant champs to suddenly losing every fight. That is just the way of things in MMA.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Fedor went 1-3 in Strikeforce before leaving.

Beating Brett Rogers but losing against Werdum, Silva, and Henderson.

Some big names at the time in the UFC were Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, and JDS.

Do you think if UFC signed Fedor instead of Strikeforce he would have done just as bad or could he have gone on to become champion?

Well, he got 1 punched by a mw who couldn't win a ufc title. Probably retired inside 3 fights.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Both Fedor and Cro Cop suffered from octagonfobia.

Overrated and past prime. If Fedor came, he eoukd have been exposed quicker.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

would not have gone well for emilianenko

It was a fitting end after ducking ufc.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

Hard to say…Fedor got absolutely clobbered in Strikeforce. Lost in almost every way possible

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

I wonder how many Fedor threads we are going to have in 2023.

Will be less than Joe Rogan height threads

 

[Equinox Shadow]

Losing to Werdum was not a fluke. Fedor was still a very dangerous threat at the time. Werdum earned that victory utilizing a submission he is very good at. Because Fedor took the bait does not make it a fluke, that makes it a good strategy by Werdum.
...Oh yeah, Werdum went on to become UFC champ, not Fedor.

Fedor was past his prime and those 3 losses were flukes anyway. Hendo was juiced and it was stopped early. He would’ve beat Werdum if he didn’t jump in his guard and Bigfoot was also juiced and it ended due to a doctors stoppage.

Fedor beat plenty of ufc heavyweights which proves he would’ve been dominant in the ufc as well

 

[ChrisWhite]

Probably would have been cut within 5 matches...

 

[Trabaho]

OK, I get that you weren't there at the time, but consider this- far lesser guys (Misaki?) and guys that Fedor dominated beat Hendo. Nog beat Werdum, and Fedor beat him twice. Fluke isn't what it was, it was Fedor going over a cliff. Like Penn, Chuck, CC, and a whole bunch of other guys who fell off a cliff- they went from dominant champs to suddenly losing every fight. That is just the way of things in MMA.

Those other guys were old when they went of the cliff, well CC had 10 surgeries and for some reason felt bad in the UFC, totally underperformed. Fedor is a small hw so losing to Hendo is normal, dude got power caught him.

I was there. I been watching mma since Fedor / CC. So like 18 years. And K1 since 22 years since the Hoost / JLB WGP final.

I meam so what he lost 3 fights.

The Bader ect loses don't count he was like +40.

 

[TheBulge]

Those other guys were old when they went of the cliff, well CC had 10 surgeries and for some reason felt bad in the UFC, totally underperformed.

The reason is because he couldn't hack it. In Pride if he got taken down, he could just hold on and stare at the ref begging for a standup. He would get his wish because he was one of their stars.

In the UFC, he would be eating elbows and instead of the ref bailing him out like in Japan, the refs would tell him to stay active or move. Then he got head kicked. His own game of cutting off a boxing ring didn't work in the octagon either.

They just weren't that good and failed to evolve. The opponents were prepared, as Bigfoot dominated prime Fedor standing as well as on the ground.