If Fedor came to UFC instead of Strikeforce, would he have had the same losing streak?

[Vogg]

Not likely.

Strikeforce had better hws than the UFC at the time. This was a pretty Widley agreed upon opinion.

Ufc nuthuggers thought JDS would beat Kharitonov at the time lol, boxer vs boxer Kharitonov mauls JDS then. Cain was the only real threat at the time.

 

[markg171]

It’s 2023 bud and it looks like you’re gearing up for another long night of furious Wikipedia Fedor posting.

You and TS should just meet up some time and come out of the closet together.

Get some sleep bud. You have a big day of Fedor ahead of you tomorrow.

Thank you for letting me know it's 2023.

Wow, would you look at that, but according to Wikipedia Fedor fought only 2 months ago.

Must've been exciting for you.

 

[markg171]

Not likely.

Strikeforce had better hws than the UFC at the time. This was a pretty Widley agreed upon opinion.

Literally nobody but Fedor fans think Strikeforce had the better HWs. It's just an excuse they came up with to justify Fedor not signing with the UFC. "He SiGnEd WiTh ThE bEtTeR oRgAnIzAtIoN".

Like yeah bud, Strikeforce toottttalllly had the better HWs. That's totally why their HW champion wasn't even bothering to defend his belt and was instead fighting in Japan and kickboxing, and then in the middle of their Grand Prix fucked off and signed to the UFC rather than continue into the semi-finals after he'd already won his opening quarter-finals match.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Thank you for letting me know it's 2023.

Wow, would you look at that, but according to Wikipedia Fedor fought only 2 months ago.

Must've been exciting for you.

The guy is retired and heading to 50 bud. I know Fedor hurts you deeply but it’s time to move on.

This is a good time for you to finish high school or do something productive. Shitting your diapers in Fedor threads on Sherdog isn’t cutting it.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Literally nobody but Fedor fans think Strikeforce had the better HWs. It's just an excuse they came up with to justify Fedor not signing with the UFC. "He SiGnEd WiTh ThE bEtTeR oRgAnIzAtIoN".

Like yeah bud, Strikeforce toottttalllly had the better HWs. That's totally why their HW champion wasn't even bothering to defend his belt and was instead fighting in Japan and kickboxing, and then in the middle of their Grand Prix fucked off and signed to the UFC rather than continue into the semi-finals after he'd already won his opening quarter-finals match.

I dunno dude, They had fedor, Overreem, Werdum, Arlovski, bigfoot, barnett, rogers, serghei they had a strong roster. Guys like coture and crocop/mir were all getting old around that time

 

[markg171]

The guy is retired and heading to 50 bud. I know Fedor hurts you deeply but it’s time to move on.

This is a good time for you to finish high school or do something productive. Shitting your diapers in Fedor threads on Sherdog isn’t cutting it.

No see, Fedor is retired now. Now you have an excuse to pretend his career over as it actually is after Bader once again KO'd him in the 1st.

It's the other 17 years you guys did so that's so puzzling for supposed fans of the guy. Who hates the majority of their favourite fighters career???

 

[Dorkman]

Could have done better in the UFC maybe, who knows. The strikeforce HW division was stacked at the time.

 

[Fight Professor]

I think out of big name fighters Fedor could have beaten Mir and Nog. I do not even like his chances against Brock seeing what happened in the Bigfoot fight as well ad Brock vs Hunt. He would have lost to Cain, JDS, Carwin and even Hunt.

 

[Sweater of AV]

No see, Fedor is retired now.

Hey look, Wikipedia paid off for you. Fedor's career is wonderful. It’s so wonderful that your life is devoted to it.



Looks like wikig is gearing up for a Fedor all-nighter. Enjoy being a waste of everyone’s time while being hilariously butthurt.

In all seriousness bud, get a fucking life lol. I wish you well.

 

[Taric]

No see, Fedor is retired now. Now you have an excuse to pretend his career over as it actually is after Bader once again KO'd him in the 1st.

It's the other 17 years you guys did so that's so puzzling for supposed fans of the guy. Who hates the majority of their favourite fighters career???

GSP retired on December 13th 2013, with 27 total fights at the age of 32, and an 11 year career.
Fedor lost to Werdum on June 26th 2010, with 34 total fights at the age of 33, and a 10 year career.

Athletes typically slip around the mileage range Fedor began to slip. It's normal. I always use this example to help people out with the concept of athletes peak range:

Usain Bolt, to this day, still holds the 100m men's track world record. He is still, unequivocally, the fastest human to have ever existed on this planet running a 9.58 second 100m sprint at the age of 22. Nobody has come close to beating it.

He became the fastest man on the planet in 2008, and lost that notoriety in 2017 where he was no longer the current fastest man on the planet but still held the record from his youth. Bolt's career as the fastest man on the planet lasted 9 years. Around 10 years is the typical length every elite athlete can maintain that level of greatness. It's just how the body works. At some point you simply aren't the best in the world at what you do anymore, even if literally nobody has come close to you when you were at your absolute peak (like Bolt's 9.58s 100m record).

There are outliers, but around the 10 year mark of elite competition is about the time when all elite athletes fall off. It's unrealistic to expect more than that.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I think out of big name fighters Fedor could have beaten Mir and Nog. I do not even like his chances against Brock seeing what happened in the Bigfoot fight as well ad Brock vs Hunt. He would have lost to Cain, JDS, Carwin and even Hunt.

I think he'd beat hunt mate. in 2010 when fedor was in Strikeforce Hunt was getting subbed by mcorckle. Keep in mind, Fedor has already beaten Mark Hunt once.

By my estimation fedor would have beaten mir, cotoure and Nog (been there done that)

Cain is the best MMA fighter Of all time and at that time would beat jones or fedor, So no argument there.

JDS I'd give fedor a chance because back then JDS was very one dimensional, Where as fedor was very complete and would use take downs that immediate put him in position to move toward submissions and GnP

Carwin I'm not sure about didn't seen him in enough high level fights to gauge him

 

[icemun]

Fedor was past his prime and those 3 losses were flukes anyway. Hendo was juiced and it was stopped early. He would’ve beat Werdum if he didn’t jump in his guard and Bigfoot was also juiced and it ended due to a doctors stoppage.

Fedor beat plenty of ufc heavyweights which proves he would’ve been dominant in the ufc as well

Wait Fedor getting knocked out three consecutove times in sanctioned fight were flukes AND
his opponents were juiced when Fedor just left from, Pride?

 

[Mike]

Well he still would have been past his prime, strike force had a better hw division than the UFC. So he might have done better.

This idea some people have that Fedor was "ducking" the UFC by going to strike force, which had a better hw division, is really silly.

 

[WOLVERINEKILLS]

JDS & Cain would have beaten Fedor in 2010. The others would not. Brock would have been the easiest fight. Fedor hits hard, fights aggressively, and most likely would have had Brock backing up quickly and in a defensive mode.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

that fight was live on sherdog

still rememeber the GOAT commentator who sounded like Borat

"THEY'RE CHANTING, 'FYODOR, FYODOR!!' THAT MEANS, 'FEDOR!'"

 

[RoyJonesJr]

Fedor was overly reliant on his athletic ability


I'd argue once that left he would probably even lose to post prime Nog but its debatable

He never adapted his game

 

[dmwalking]

People need to realise the difference between wrestling in a ring vs. wrestling in a cage. Plus grounded knees to the head make any wrestler think twice about shooting if the opponent has a sprawl. I don't see any HW beat prime Pride Fedor. In 2010 I don't see him dominating in the UFC. in the year 2005 he would have killed Sylvia or Arlovski easily in the UFC.

underrated post. Agree 100%.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

he might have had a similar losing streak, but it would have looked better cause "muH UfC"

 

[Goutfather]

personally i think fedor was done after affliction. the signs were there, everyone ignored them, he ignored them, and it is what it is. but strikeforce hw was much better than ufc at that point. fedor would have made short work of carwin or brock, and he may have been able to handle jds. idk if he could have handled cain, but he would have had at least as much chance as jds did. imo fedor would have been ufc champ, and probably woulda lasted 1 or 2 defenses.

 

[Left Hook Lacy]

At that point Fedor was kill or be killed. Could've KO'd all of them, could've gotten KO'd himself by all of them IMO.

Against JDS one of the two goes to sleep. Same thing against Carwin.
I actually like his chances against Brock and Cain. His problem against Big Foot was Big Foots high level BJJ top game. Would've been interesting to see him against the wrestlers. He might have been able to scramble, reverse, get back up or even work his own ground game.

HW was looking good back then btw both in the UFC and in SF. Damn.

I think out of big name fighters Fedor could have beaten Mir and Nog. I do not even like his chances against Brock seeing what happened in the Bigfoot fight as well ad Brock vs Hunt. He would have lost to Cain, JDS, Carwin and even Hunt.

Styles make fights. Hunt with solid takedown defense could have actually been a nightmare matchup for Fedor. MMA Hunt. Not K1 Hunt.

The affliction matchup against Barnett also would have been super interesting because Barnett - like Big Foot - had both solid takedowns and a great top game.