Idris Elba rumored to be next Bond

[Sansnom]

You've already outed yourself with regards to what you care about. Idris is a real true Brit who could easily be in today's MI6. He does not have to fake anything. That you can over look anything but skin colour is enough to know.

So now you're accusing me of being racist?

Lmao what a fuckin goof.

You're basically what's wrong with people today and all those PC groups in the movie industry.

An accent can be faked, skin color can't. That's fact, not my opinion.

If me saying a white man is a more accurate representation of James Bond because the original James Bond is white offends you, then you better take your sensitive ass somewhere else.

A white actor portraying "Falcon" or "Black Panther" would not be a good representation of how Falcon and Black Panther were inrended to be. Same way a black actor is not an accurate representation of James Bond.

Will I still watch the movie if they made a black James Bond? Hell yes. Do I believe it accurately portrays James Bond? No. I believe a white actor with a british accent would be a better representation of the character.

Cry me a river.

 

[MikeMcMann]

So now you're accusing me of being racist?

Lmao what a fuckin goof.

You're basically what's wrong with people today and all those PC groups in the movie industry.

An accent can be faked, skin color can't. That's fact, not my opinion.

If me saying a white man is a more accurate representation of James Bond because the original James Bond is white offends you, then you better take your sensitive ass somewhere else.

A white actor portraying "Falcon" or "Black Panther" would not be a good representation of how Falcon and Black Panther were inrended to be. Same way a black actor is not an accurate representation of James Bond.

Will I still watch the movie if they made a black James Bond? Hell yes. Do I believe it accurately portrays James Bond? No

Cry me a river.

I am not accusing you of anything. You have made it clear it that you can accept a non brit before a Brit in the role of a Brit agent as long as the tan is the right colour.

Sorry but you are the one that is everything wrong and you will see that by 99% of people in this thread not buying into your skin tone based ONLY reasoning.

 

[DIDM]

Why don’t they, you know, make a new film/franchise

It’s gotta be pretty clear by now these retooled reboots don’t work, and are not successful

 

[Sansnom]

I am not accusing you of anything. You have made it clear it that you can accept a non brit before a Brit in the role of a Brit agent as long as the tan is the right colour.

Sorry but you are the one that is everything wrong and you will see that by 99% of people in this thread not buying into your skin tone based ONLY reasoning.

Did you not read when I said an accent can be faked? Or are you illiterate?

A white man using a british accent is a more accurate portrayal than a black man who is originally british. No one really tells the difference in the accent.

But sure, pull the race card you whiney goof.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Did you not read when I said an accent can be faked? Or are you illiterate?

A white man using a british accent is a more accurate portrayal than a black man who is originally british. No one really tells the difference in the accent.

But sure, pull the race card you whiney goof.

You still know he is not the white english man written by the author and you have to accept it and you do. You can accept that but you cannot accept a Brit with a tan. Again I am not the one who said that. That was you. You act like you are this purest when it comes to what an author writes and then call bullshit on yourself almost right after. So your issue is not with me. It is with your own inconsistency the lies you will tell yourself and accept.

 

[Sansnom]

You still know he is not the white english man written by the author and you have to accept it and you do. You can accept that but you cannot accept a Brit with a tan. Again I am not the one who said that. That was you. You act like you are this purest when it comes to what an author writes and then call bullshit on yourself almost right after. So your issue is not with me. It is with your own inconsistency the lies you will tell yourself and accept.

Again, if there is no difference in accents it's still a better representation. Like I said, a british accent can be faked. It's about what you see on the screen. And the closer the actor looks to the original James Bond, the better the portrayal. Also, a tan? Lmao

God you are retarded.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Again, if there is no difference in accents it's still a better representation. A tan? Lmao

God you are retarded.

Who cares if you think its better? That is subjective. Your prior point was it had to be what the author wrote period. You made no room for exceptions. But now suddenly you find exceptions. So if you can have your exceptions and those guys can be a true Bond why cannot other exceptions? Why are your exceptions the only ones that count when it is clear what the only factor is you won't make an exception for?

Sorry but you don't speak for anyone but yourself and the odd few like you we always see on this forum.

 

[Sansnom]

Who cares if you think its better? That is subjective. Your prior point was it had to be what the author wrote period. You made no room for exceptions. But now suddenly you find exceptions. So if you can have your exceptions and those guys can be a true Bond why cannot other exceptions? Why are your exceptions the only ones that count when it is clear what the only factor is you won't make an exception for?

Sorry but you don't speak for anyone but yourself and the odd few like you we always see on this forum.

When and where did I make no room for exceptions? I have said multiple times that Hollywood can portray James Bond as they like, it does not make it an accurate portrayal.

Seriously, how thick can you be?

 

[MikeMcMann]

When and where did I make no room for exceptions? I have said multiple times that Hollywood can portray James Bond as they like, it does not make it an accurate portrayal.

Seriously, how thick can you be?

and yet you point out you will accept the Ausie, Scot and Irish and Blond guy. Interesting the lines you draw. Hmmm, what could it be? What could it be??? lol.

 

[Sansnom]

and yet you point out you will accept the Ausie, Scot and Irish and Blond guy. Interesting the lines you draw. Hmmm, what could it be? What could it be??? lol.

I will accept anyone you goof.

I just said that I find a white man with a british accent to be closer representation of James Bond than a black man with a british accent. It's what you see on the screen. People won't know if the guy is aussie, irish etc.. If he nails the british accent. I also never said "the blonde guy" accurately portrays James Bond either.

Seriously, are you really this stupid or are you just trying to find reasons to accuse others of being racist just because they think a white man more accurately portrays a white fictional character?

 

[MikeMcMann]

I will accept anyone you goof.

I just said that I find a white man with a british accent to be closer representation of James Bond than a black man with a british accent. It's what you see on the screen. People won't know if the guy is aussie, irish etc.. If he nails the british accent. I also never said "the blonde guy" accurately portrays James Bond either.

Seriously, are you really this stupid or are you just trying to find reasons to accuse others of being racist just because they think a white man more accurately portrays a white fictional character?

Funny thing is I haven't accused you of anything. I've just held your own words up to you like a mirror and you've inferred the rest once you see your own words.

 

[Mike]

So now you're accusing me of being racist?

Lmao what a fuckin goof.

You're basically what's wrong with people today and all those PC groups in the movie industry.

An accent can be faked, skin color can't. That's fact, not my opinion.

If me saying a white man is a more accurate representation of James Bond because the original James Bond is white offends you, then you better take your sensitive ass somewhere else.

A white actor portraying "Falcon" or "Black Panther" would not be a good representation of how Falcon and Black Panther were inrended to be. Same way a black actor is not an accurate representation of James Bond.

Will I still watch the movie if they made a black James Bond? Hell yes. Do I believe it accurately portrays James Bond? No. I believe a white actor with a british accent would be a better representation of the character.

Cry me a river.

Except again, they have recast ethnic roles with white leads MANY times. That's why this "what if an ethnic role got recast!" stuff is silly.

That was the status quo up until very recently.

 

[Sansnom]

Funny thing is I haven't accused you of anything. I've just held your own words up to you like a mirror and you've inferred the rest once you see your own words.

Your comment clearly insinuated that. Now you are out of arguments.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Except again, they have recast ethnic roles with white leads MANY times. That's why this "what if an ethnic role got recast!" stuff is silly.

That was the status quo up until very recently.

Yup.
His entire premise when it comes to Hollywood or other forms of media is objectively false. It is a FACT that media will be updated, played with, changed, over a long period of time to try and refresh characters and story lines. Particularity a 60 year old character where fan fatIgue is evident and waning. We have so many examples quoted in this thread PROVING his premise is BS.

In the end his complaint comes down to one thing and one thing only. He can accept a lot of things in his Bond but one in particular he can't.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Your comment clearly insinuated that. Now you are out of arguments.

My comments only reflect back exactly what you said. But you are right that is what is insinuated within them. Just not by me.

 

[elreece]

I will accept anyone you goof.

I just said that I find a white man with a british accent to be closer representation of James Bond than a black man with a british accent. It's what you see on the screen. People won't know if the guy is aussie, irish etc.. If he nails the british accent. I also never said "the blonde guy" accurately portrays James Bond either.

Seriously, are you really this stupid or are you just trying to find reasons to accuse others of being racist just because they think a white man more accurately portrays a white fictional character?

There is no point arguing with the few idiots who think that we are completely wrong for wanting a white bond.

They are just fuck wits of the highest order.

 

[Sansnom]

My comments only reflect back exactly what you said. But you are right that is what is insinuated within them. Just not by me.

My very first comment was "James Bond is a white guy. Deal with it."

James Bond is in fact a white guy. Because that's how the creator of James Bond made him.

But the comment russtled your jimmies and you went on by responding "Until he is not".

You insinuated that my only criteria for a proper hollywood portrayal of James Bond was skin color which is totally false and that's what caused this entire debate.

Maybe next time you shouldn't be so triggered when someone thinks a person of a certain ethnicity is not the best choice to portray a character of another ethnicity.

 

[MikeMcMann]

My very first comment was "James Bond is a white guy. Deal with it."

James Bond is in fact a white guy. Because that's how the creator of James Bond made him.

But the comment russtled your jimmies and you went on by responding "Until he is not".

You insinuated that my only criteria for a proper hollywood portrayal of James Bond was skin color which is totally false and that's what caused this entire debate.

Maybe next time you shouldn't be so triggered when someone thinks a person of a certain ethnicity is not the best choice to portray a character of another ethnicity.

I never disagreed.with that first comment. I still don't. It's an objective truth. Just as he always had dark hair until he didn't. Just as each and every character mentioned in this thread was as written until they got changed.

Change not only happens all the time, it's inevitable. I.have no problems accepting that before they change they have not changed. You however have a huge problem accepting change.

Well, a very specific type of change anyway as you are ok accepting other changes.

 

[Sansnom]

There is no point arguing with the few idiots who think that we are completely wrong for wanting a white bond.

They are just fuck wits of the highest order.

Wait, maybe I should have used a gif of an asian or an indian guy to make sure not to trigger any PC idiots.

 

[Sansnom]

I never disagreed.with that first comment. I still don't. It's an objective truth. Just as he always had dark hair until he didn't. Just as each and every character mentioned in this thread was as written until they got changed.

Change not only happens all the time, it's inevitable. I.have no problems accepting that before they change they have not changed. You however have a huge problem accepting change.

Well, a very specific type of change anyway as you are ok accepting other changes.

Again, you are pointing this towards me. When did I say or demonstrated i didn't accept change? You are taking your pre-conceived idea about what you think people are willing to accept and accusing me.

If you would read and stop insinuating for a second, you would have realized that I have clearly stated that I will still watch a James Bond movie whether the actor portraying him is white, black or purple.

But, I do believe using a black actor as James Bond is not an accurate representation.

I never said a blonde actor is an accurate representation either. There was also whining about Daniel Craig being James Bond when they first announced he would be portraying him.

But if you can't accept that using a white guy with blonde hair is still a closer representation of James Bond than completely changing his ethnicity, then I don't know what to tell you.