Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

[SurferH2O]

They have his face and he is a senior officer. City would probably just pay out. It's evil to shoot someone in the dick with a bean bag. That victim isn't going to get any sympathy because he is a male and people are going to claim he was being annoying.

Honestly cops should just call out this week and use their sick days. You don't want to deal with this type of BS.

The cops should be wearing something to ID them clearly. We can't have them line stepping either.

 

[DoctorTaco]

They have his face and he is a senior officer. City would probably just pay out. It's evil to shoot someone in the dick with a bean bag. That victim isn't going to get any sympathy because he is a male and people are going to claim he was being annoying.

Honestly cops should just call out this week and use their sick days. You don't want to deal with this type of BS.

This specific guy it won’t be hard to hold accountable, I was speaking in generalities bc cops refusing to identify themselves during stuff like this has historically has always been problem.

Both sides use the courage of the crowd to pull heinous shit.

 

[Darkballs]

lol
Yet dorks still try to side with rioters and their fake outrage .

No dude, the city is not siding with the looters. Most of us realize that the couple of hundred dipshits were mostly fucksticks looking to go viral or just getting off on playing anarchist.

But I live literally 4-miles from the epicenter of these protests. To say the whole city is covered in graffiti, is just retarded. Also, we are not in the middle of a rebellion, in case anyone here is dumb enough to buy that line of shit.

What the locals actually think is the following:
-The first protests in Paramount (about 16-miles south of Los Angeles) were about a couple dozen of legit protestors. I had to drive by them on my way back from Long Beach. Nothing much, and couldn't really see shit even though it was right by the interstate.

-Trump announces he's nationalizing the guard that same night. Then you get a fuckton of people marching on downtown in response to that. In the first night, these were a mix of honest protestors and shitbirds just looking for thrills. I have a bunch of friends in the LAPD (lots of former Marines there) and they laugh and tell me two things: 1) the people that catch looting are the young, but destined for a career of shitbaggery, who already have a bunch of priors; 2) the dipshits who actually try to spit or swing on cops are always priveliged gender studies majors who shit their pants when they realize their going to jail.

-After day 1 or two, the remaining "protestors" were more of you douche bags looking to go viral or just be asshats. Everyone agress it's time to shoo them away. As of tonight, that looks to have happened.

-Ultimately, both sides of the media overhyped this. Trump didn't help, and served only as a needless inflamatory dickhead. The nationalized guard just stood around the detention center in downtown, and didn't participate in dealing with the protestors in any meaningful way. The marines haven't done anything that I've heard of, and are likely just staged somewhere to avoid any incidents.

That's my two cents as a local, for what it's worth. Trump needs a distraction. He's failing to deliver on any promises he made to his base. He hasn't gotten any trade deals done after promising "90 in 90 days" ; he just straight gave up on Ukraine after promising to solve that on day 1; and now he blocking the release of the Epstein files that his own cabinet is implicating him in.

So trump does what he always does when he looks like a loser: he picks a culture war fight and begs his base to look over there. And the responses in this thread from his supporters, prove it.

 

[AmonTobin]

 

[AmonTobin]

 

[PEB]

Former Defense Secretary and retired Marine Corps General James Mattis has released a statement about Trump's military coup:

IN UNION THERE IS STRENGTH

"I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled. The words “Equal Justice Under Law” are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation.
When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.
We must reject any thinking of our cities as a “battlespace” that our uniformed military is called upon to “dominate.” At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.
James Madison wrote in Federalist 14 that “America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat.” We do not need to militarize our response to protests. We need to unite around a common purpose. And it starts by guaranteeing that all of us are equal before the law.
Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that “The Nazi slogan for destroying us…was ‘Divide and Conquer.’ Our American answer is ‘In Union there is Strength.’” We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.
Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.
We can come through this trying time stronger, and with a renewed sense of purpose and respect for one another. The pandemic has shown us that it is not only our troops who are willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice for the safety of the community. Americans in hospitals, grocery stores, post offices, and elsewhere have put their lives on the line in order to serve their fellow citizens and their country. We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln’s “better angels,” and listen to them, as we work to unite.
Only by adopting a new path—which means, in truth, returning to the original path of our founding ideals—will we again be a country admired and respected at home and abroad."

 

[NoSmilez]

The cops should be wearing something to ID them clearly. We can't have them line stepping either.

What about ICE? They cover their faces and also hide their badges.

 

[GtehMVP]

Look at this POS tossing bricks/concrete chunks at any vehicle. That's attempted murder. Thankfully he's been arrested.

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[AmonTobin]

 

[Flower2dPeople]

What about ICE? They cover their faces and also hide their badges.

This is like trans issue for me: why are people defending illegals? It blows my mind.

 

[DoctorTaco]

What about ICE? They cover their faces and also hide their badges.

Yes. Put them in the LEO data base and make sure their numbers are easily visible. Not their names or addresses or anything like that, but a number for accountability that follows them their entire career.

 

[ShadowRun]

No dude, the city is not siding with the looters. Most of us realize that the couple of hundred dipshits were mostly fucksticks looking to go viral or just getting off on playing anarchist.

But I live literally 4-miles from the epicenter of these protests. To say the whole city is covered in graffiti, is just retarded. Also, we are not in the middle of a rebellion, in case anyone here is dumb enough to buy that line of shit.

What the locals actually think is the following:
-The first protests in Paramount (about 16-miles south of Los Angeles) were about a couple dozen of legit protestors. I had to drive by them on my way back from Long Beach. Nothing much, and couldn't really see shit even though it was right by the interstate.

-Trump announces he's nationalizing the guard that same night. Then you get a fuckton of people marching on downtown in response to that. In the first night, these were a mix of honest protestors and shitbirds just looking for thrills. I have a bunch of friends in the LAPD (lots of former Marines there) and they laugh and tell me two things: 1) the people that catch looting are the young, but destined for a career of shitbaggery, who already have a bunch of priors; 2) the dipshits who actually try to spit or swing on cops are always priveliged gender studies majors who shit their pants when they realize their going to jail.

-After day 1 or two, the remaining "protestors" were more of you douche bags looking to go viral or just be asshats. Everyone agress it's time to shoo them away. As of tonight, that looks to have happened.

-Ultimately, both sides of the media overhyped this. Trump didn't help, and served only as a needless inflamatory dickhead. The nationalized guard just stood around the detention center in downtown, and didn't participate in dealing with the protestors in any meaningful way. The marines haven't done anything that I've heard of, and are likely just staged somewhere to avoid any incidents.

That's my two cents as a local, for what it's worth. Trump needs a distraction. He's failing to deliver on any promises he made to his base. He hasn't gotten any trade deals done after promising "90 in 90 days" ; he just straight gave up on Ukraine after promising to solve that on day 1; and now he blocking the release of the Epstein files that his own cabinet is implicating him in.

So trump does what he always does when he looks like a loser: he picks a culture war fight and begs his base to look over there. And the responses in this thread from his supporters, prove it.

I think your timeline is off when he deployed them but lets say he deployed them minutes after the first ICE operation that doesn't give anyone an excuse to be a criminal

Oh yea it's definitely overhyped, dems downplaying, repubs overplaying. That was my point people making excuses.

 

[ShadowRun]

This is like trans issue for me: why are people defending illegals? It blows my mind.

You mean ICE people that are getting doxed, attacked, judges letting illegals escapes in courts if there are ICE officer who identified themselves, same at illegals being released from jails, depending on the city not cooperating with law enforcement. It not hard to connect the dots on why they cover their faces. I think the "woke mind" is a religion and their is oppressed and oppressor and they will go on the side of oppressed no matter what, that's how simple minded some of those people are

 

[Darkballs]

I think your timeline is off when he deployed them but lets say he deployed them minutes after the first ICE operation that doesn't give anyone an excuse to be a criminal

That doesn't give trump the right to call in federal troops to put down a "rebellion," or claim he is unable to enforce federal laws. The Constitution is more important than this.

 

[NoSmilez]

This is like trans issue for me: why are people defending illegals? It blows my mind.

Illegals are a mixed bag of people. People are kinder to the European/Canadian that overstayed their visa vs the round headed cleaner at your local Walmart, Indian person working at 711 or Asian person at the takeout spot. I know they got the brown Asian people at the 711 by me. I think folks will have a change of heart on illegals when the Ukranians lose their legal status.

Everyone's case is different. I just expect people to be treated fairly. Some people outright crossed the border illegal while others have unique circumstances. In most cases they need to go but I don't like the cases when they deport people who lived in America most of their lives. They are deporting folks that came to America as children because of Korean/Vietnam war or Cuban conflict with America. These people are pretty much American and they have lives, families and businesses in America. You might as well tell those people to go hang themselves when you drop them off in a foreign country.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Illegals are a mixed bag of people. People are kinder to the European/Canadian that overstayed their visa vs the round headed cleaner at your local Walmart, Indian person working at 711 or Asian person at the takeout spot. I know they got the brown Asian people at the 711 by me. I think folks will have a change of heart on illegals when the Ukranians lose their legal status.

Everyone's case is different. I just expect people to be treated fairly. Some people outright crossed the border illegal while others have unique circumstances. In most cases they need to go but I don't like the cases when they deport people who lived in America most of their lives. They are deporting folks that came to America as children because of Korean/Vietnam war. These people are pretty much American and they have lives, families and businesses in America. You might as well tell those people to go hang themselves when you drop them off in a foreign country.

What are the percentage of those who crossed the border illegally and those who have unique circumstances? Not everyone is like those poor cambodians. Vast majority took a gamble (FA) and are now facing deportation (FO).

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For those without prior deportation proceedings: Being detained by ICE does not automatically lead to deportation. If you are not already in immigration court proceedings, ICE will start the process by issuing a Notice to Appear (NTA) before an immigration judge. At this hearing, you can defend against deportation and apply for various forms of immigration relief. You may also have the option to apply for release on bond, which allows you to be released from detention while your case is processed.

For those with ongoing immigration proceedings: If you are detained by ICE and your case is active in immigration court, your case will likely be transferred to the immigration court closest to your detention location. This facilitates the continuation of your defense, including the presentation of evidence and pursuit of legal relief.

For those with final deportation orders: If you are detained by ICE after receiving a final order of removal, the deportation process may be expedited. It is crucial to immediately consult with an immigration attorney who can assess any remaining legal options "

 

[Fox by the Sea]

this is funny

 

[NoSmilez]

What are the percentage of those who crossed the border illegally and those who have unique circumstances? Not everyone is like those poor cambodians. Vast majority took a gamble (FA) and are now facing deportation (FO).

"
For those without prior deportation proceedings: Being detained by ICE does not automatically lead to deportation. If you are not already in immigration court proceedings, ICE will start the process by issuing a Notice to Appear (NTA) before an immigration judge. At this hearing, you can defend against deportation and apply for various forms of immigration relief. You may also have the option to apply for release on bond, which allows you to be released from detention while your case is processed.

For those with ongoing immigration proceedings: If you are detained by ICE and your case is active in immigration court, your case will likely be transferred to the immigration court closest to your detention location. This facilitates the continuation of your defense, including the presentation of evidence and pursuit of legal relief.

For those with final deportation orders: If you are detained by ICE after receiving a final order of removal, the deportation process may be expedited. It is crucial to immediately consult with an immigration attorney who can assess any remaining legal options "

They are going after everyone outside of the recent arrivals. South Americans are the largest group then it is the Chinese/Indians/Filipinos for the Asian groups. Burmese are one of the newer groups so they will be the first to go. You also have old protected groups like Cubans. Some of them are Cuban inmates released to America in the 80s. Some of them lived in the US for 40 years and aren't able to get a citizenship because of their past. ICE is going into old folks home to deport these type of people. I think they need a pass on this. You don't deport a person with a Alzheimer's back to Cuba.

All I am saying is that each case needs to be treated fairly. It's foul to kick people out after they lived in this country for decades.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

ICE conducted large scale raids in Los Angeles yesterday, and were met by large spread protests that turned into violent.

I expect there will be several like this, so might as well make a mega thread

The mayor even told them to FIGHT. Coincidentally, this happened on J6

That s pretty crazy. That s even worse than LFI in France which pretty openly calls for insurection.
At what point does this turn into sedition/treason? Put that mayor in jail.

 

[Lycandroid]

You recall that many of our states used to be Mexico, right?

And even more of them used to belong to the British. Using the same logic, should the UK have the right the take back the empire ?

I dont know what they care about but there's a world of difference between setting a few cars on fire vs attempting to overthrow the US government like your team did.

People riot when they’ve exhausted other methods of getting their needs met. So I see riots as a symptom of the fact that our government is letting people down.

Under your own criteria there is no difference.

Don't have any sympathy for those who poke the bear, both had ample opportunity to walk away.

Are these people out after curfew was declared ? Why does everybody seem to think the law doesn't apply to them ?

Cool. Still a first amendment right. Communists are protected under the constitution. Not sure if you’re up on US history but it was sort of a thing in the 1950s.

And like I said arrest all commie terrorists, you continuing to frame what I said as a call to arrest everybody despite my post saying nothing of the sort, and me clarifying 4 times now that that is not what I said is pathetic and pointless. What is it with you and being unable to tell the difference between similar but blatantly different things ? I am starting to thing it didn't just start with male/female vaginas.