Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

[CantCucktheTuck]

who could have foreseen the democrats would be on the wrong side of an 80/20 issue.

 

[AmonTobin]

The National Guard was called in to protect Federal agents, buildings and functions from interference by protesters.

Not a complete abuse of power at all. Here's Georgetown law professor, Stephen I. Vladeck, analyzing the National Guard being called. They can be used to protect Federal officers doing their job. ICE are federal officers.

The Federal Agents are being used excessively too. Hence the protests.

 

[Lycandroid]

You try to de-escalate them so they don't turn into violent mobs in the first place, which Trump obviously had no interest in doing.

He chose escalation to justify violence and force against protesters and government critics and normalize this route for the future.

101 playboook for every fascist leader in history. That's why I said go read some books.

What exactly did he do to escalate ? Since the NG has been brought in the number of violent incidents have went down. Each day was less violent then the day before.

Hey trump. Did you see Elon posted the real reason you haven’t released the Epstein files?

He did? Quick,deploy the military some place to distract people!!!

You might be right, this is exactly the kind of strategy that got goldfish such as yourself to vote for Mark Carney

What do you mean "its only a matter of time" ? There weren't any rocks thrown last night, and there was almost zero protest period. I wouldn't be surprised if no protest happen at all tonight. You guys have a weird fascination about acting as if the protest have been at the same level of burning cars for 4 days straight, when that simply isn't the case.

Did you even watch any of the protest yesterday?

So you are finally admitting that Trump as deescalated the situation then ?

for the sake of argument, sure.

But That wasn’t the discussion we were having. If someone gets arrested for terrorism there first must be reasonable evidence to suspect them of that crime. (IE: throwing bricks at cop cars). You’re advocating for “checking the legal status of everyone of these commie terrorists in the streets of LA”
And I’m trying to understand how exercising my first amendment right would give the government the right to violate my 4th? There are hundreds of thousands of people protesting.

To be clear- if someone is protesting but not breaking any laws should they have their 4th amendment rights violated?

Let me put it in terms you can understand, just like there is a huge difference between male and female vaginas, there is a huge difference between violent protesters and those exercising their 1st amendment rights.

To answer your last question. No, I said arrest the terrorists, which based on their actions you agree there is reasonable evidence to suspect them of that crime. I never said blanket arrested everybody did I ?

Now I do think if you show up to a protest where people are committing violence you should either try to put a stop to it (it really makes your side look complicit when you stand there, do nothing and allow it) or go home. Do I think these people are guilty of terrorism for this no ? Do I think they share some portion of responsibility on an ethical level ? Absolutely.

 

[Hog-train]

The Federal Agents are being used excessively too. Hence the protests.

Exactly how were they used excessively? Proof Federal Agents were being used excessively in LA?

 

[Confucamus]

Deploying the National Guard was excessive and a complete abuse of power and resources. The governor of California has stated he did not request it nor was he even consulted. This is purely a political power move by Trump with the objective of escalation. This is the same president that cut federal aid for disaster relief to the states and said "tough luck, you're on your own." You think this guy actually gives a shit about California? He didn't give a shit about Capital staffers' safety during the insurrection.

The governor isn't reliable. You have people trying to impede and murder law enforcement officials. We all saw how bad everything got when Trump tried deferring to state governors to handle the BLM riots. Billions in damage, dozens dead. All for a bunch of lies. America voted to get the illegals out and that's what's happening. These law enforcement agents need to be protected from the violent mobs trying to defy the law.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

My favorite part is when you can hear explosions in the background as Baghdad Bass tells you that these are peaceful protests.

 

[Spounman]

The Lauzon Miller fights...not sure we'll see anything like them again.

Yeah, I doubt it. Not these days with so many people coming and going on the roster.

 

[UberHere]

My favorite part is when you can hear explosions in the background as Baghdad Bass tells you that these are peaceful protests.

Democrats are the party for stupid people. They and the republicans did a complete 180 from the 90’s.

 

[Scerpi]

The Federal Agents are being used excessively too. Hence the protests.

What a bunch of horseshit... lol

 

[Confucamus]

 

[Hog-train]

LAPD got this under control. This happened last night.

 

[AmonTobin]

We all saw how bad everything got when Trump tried deferring to state governors to handle the BLM riots. Billions in damage, dozens dead.

Newsom called in 8000 National Guard troops during the George Floyd riots. 2020 riots and the current ICE protests across the US are very different things.

Trump deployed no troops to the capital on Jan 6 and sent 1000 troops to LA this week which California leadership has stated was completely inappropriate.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

 

[cottagecheesefan]

If they're gonna walk all the way back over the border, they might aswell steal a good pair of shoes.

If they self deport, they get $1000 per person. A family of 4 pocket $4000 and live like a king in some third world country. Win-win

 

[Confucamus]

Newsom called in 8000 National Guard troops during the George Floyd riots. 2020 riots and the current ICE protests across the US are very different things.

They don't need to be exactly the same. Violence, looting, burning private property, etc. Can't allow that to get out of hand. Can't allow mobs of vigilantes actively trying to murder law enforcement officials doing their job.

Trump deployed no troops to the capital on Jan 6 and sent 1000 troops to LA this week which California leadership has stated was completely inappropriate.

Clearly we've seen the California leadership is useless.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

haven't you ever been provoked into robbing stores?

 

[AmonTobin]

The governor isn't reliable. You have people trying to impede and murder law enforcement officials. We all saw how bad everything got when Trump tried deferring to state governors to handle the BLM riots. Billions in damage, dozens dead. All for a bunch of lies. America voted to get the illegals out and that's what's happening. These law enforcement agents need to be protected from the violent mobs trying to defy the law.

Some Americans votes for illegals to be deported, humanely, not legal citizens and not inhumanely.

So far the award for most violent mobs goes to ICE and LAPD. I'm sure we can add NG to that list shortly.

There are ICE protests happening in several states and much much larger Trump protests will taking place during Trump's military parade on June 14. Americans aren't criminals for protesting. They're fed up with the fascist bullshit and I don't blame them.

 

[SKYNET]

I'm not denying protesters escalated

If far right wing extremists were escalating tensions during a protest in Dark Bidens tenure, do you assume Dark Biden would have waited for local and state officials in a red state such as Texas or Florida?

Based off his aggressive and firm rhetoric towards right wing extremists 3 years ago, I would say the answer for both of us is clear.

"Calling for mass violence and rioting in the streets, this is inflammatory, it's dangerous, it's against the rule of law and we the people must say,
this is not who we are ladies and gentlemen. We can't be pro-insurrectionist and pro-american, they're incompatible. We can't allow violence to be normalized in this country, it's wrong. We each have to reject political violence with with all the moral clarity and conviction this nation can muster"

Perhaps you feel the prescribed remedy to violent extremists should be held to a different standard based off your personal pros and cons?

 

[Osculater]

Really nice to see the good guys get a few wins.

Where are the national guards or marines?

 

[Whippy McGee]

How did this go down?

1. ICE went to LA and did their job locating criminal illegal aliens and those around them arresting and setting them for deportation.
2. Leftist funded organizations tried to stop ICE Federal Agents from doing their jobs with physical attacks.
3. Trump brought in the National Guard to protect ICE and their facility.
4. Leftists rioted. Leftists Looted. Leftists tried to murder police. The flags they flew were Mexican Flags.

Which part is wrong?