Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

[IDGETKTFO]

Sing the American anthem or GTFO beetch

If they're gonna walk all the way back over the border, they might aswell steal a good pair of shoes.

 

[I Am Legion]

This is all created to make us upset and cause chaos. We see people burning cars, vandalizing and destroying property all while waving Mexican flags. Burning American flags. So people that are here illegally think that by doing this, they should be able to stay. Drives you nuts right?

But when you see trucks pull up handing out masks, flags, poles, helmets, signs, you start to wonder, wtf? Then you start to see the picture. Why would Americans really want people like this here? Answer: WE DON'T. This is a combo of paid protestors, professional agitators, opportunists, and anti-Trump propagandists. The few true Mexicans protesting are not going loco.

 

[b34stmode]

If they're gonna walk all the way back over the border, they might aswell steal a good pair of shoes.

You can CLEARLY SEE the people looting this store are Black, and not "illegal Mexicans"

So what narrative are you trying to push exactly?

 

[oldshadow]

Why not defer to state and local officials as is the norm? IIRC the last time the National Guard was nationalized by the president was in the 60s, seems like a pretty drastic move.

Further, perhaps ICE and DHS officials driving around in unmarked vans and grabbing people in plain clothes is partly to blame for the unrest. Why enforce the law in such a provocative and fear inducing manner? Don't you see how that approach helped spark the unrest?

Because the feds were not being protected while doing their job by the local government.

Looks like its clear who and what they are.

 

[ShadowRun]

More people will make excuses for her saying she’s being taken out of contrast .



So no local support ,

 

[Islam Imamate]

Well were the local politicians on the record about enforcing the law and supporting the law intervention? cause it objectively doesn't look like it. it's not a flimsy pretense, it's a pretty solid casus belli that Trump, granted, like a sly politicians he is, is taking advantage of.

Local officials don't have to help enforce federal law, that's part of the autonomy that the federal system allows.

They are responsible for general law and order and they were devoting resources to that.

Trumps wasn't doing the optics himself. he had plenty of help from the local politicians.
Again, it's obvious Trump is taking advantage of the situation. But perhaps the locals shouldn't have allowed it to reach the "situation" stage.

Trump's deliberately provocative use of federal law enforcement, grabbing people off the street with plain clothes officers and throwing them into unmarked vans, is what provoked this to begin with. He's now using the protests in response to those actions to engage in an abnormal flexing of federal authority. Comes off like a power grab.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Because the feds were not being protected while doing their job by the local government.

Looks like its clear who and what they are.

I don't think state and local officials are required to aid Feds so idk if that is a legitimate pretense.

 

[Hog-train]

Why not defer to state and local officials as is the norm? IIRC the last time the National Guard was nationalized by the president was in the 60s, seems like a pretty drastic move.

Further, perhaps ICE and DHS officials driving around in unmarked vans and grabbing people in plain clothes is partly to blame for the unrest. Why enforce the law in such a provocative and fear inducing manner? Don't you see how that approach helped spark the unrest?

Have you not watched any of the numerous videoclips? A lot of the protesters were physically attacking even the cops. Throwing rocks and all sorts of other shit - wrecking cop cars, throwing cinder block pieces off a bridge onto oncoming cars, impeding movement, etc.

You're portraying it like the authorities coming out in force caused the rioting and violence when the National Guard and cops were actually a reaction to the violence.

The National Guard was only sent on the second day as a reaction.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

provocative use of federal law enforcement

but not illegal, is it?

and provocative for whom? if you're a criminal, all law enforcement is provocative. this isn't an argument.

you can't be "provoked" into looting, burning cars, and violence. if you're doing that, you're a criminal.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Have you not watched any of the numerous videoclips? A lot of the protesters were physically attacking even the cops. Throwing rocks and all sorts of other shit - wrecking cop cars, throwing cinder block pieces off a bridge onto oncoming cars, impeding movement, etc.

You're portraying it like the authorities coming out in force caused the rioting and violence when the National Guard and cops were actually a reaction to the violence.

ICE and DHS officers and their raids is what provoked the unrest, Trump is just using that unrest as a pretense to deploy military force in a state he had an open vendetta against. That in turn risks greater escalation.

 

[b34stmode]

More people will make excuses for her saying she’s being taken out of contrast .



So no local support ,

If you are going to post shit like this, at least keep the narrative straight. She literally says no nobody was shot or stabbed. Is she wrong? Can you post evidence of someone being shot during these protest? Someone being stabbed?

 

[oldshadow]

The demorats are refusing to support the removal of criminal illegals and in fact are protecting them. They refuse to see the violence in this situation.

This is great and I hope the next election the republicans play this hard.

 

[oldshadow]

I don't think state and local officials are required to aid Feds so idk if that is a legitimate pretense.

So Trump is sending in the guard to protect federal agents and buildings. Fuck the rest of thr city i hope they burn it down.

 

[tgv976]

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Hmmmmm? Interesting names here

 

[b34stmode]

Have you not watched any of the numerous videoclips? A lot of the protesters were physically attacking even the cops. Throwing rocks and all sorts of other shit - wrecking cop cars, throwing cinder block pieces off a bridge onto oncoming cars, impeding movement, etc.

You're portraying it like the authorities coming out in force caused the rioting and violence when the National Guard and cops were actually a reaction to the violence.

The National Guard was only sent on the second day as a reaction.

That happened the first night of the protest, and the people who did it were arrested. Around 50 people total have been arrested. Do you have any clips last night of people burning cars? How about the previous night? Were any cops physically assaulted last night? The first night a had a decent amount of violent actors, the past two nights did not. So why was the National Guard called? Why were the Marines called? They both have done absolutely nothing in regards to these protest.

 

[Islam Imamate]

but not illegal, is it?

Well in at least some cases the Trump regime had broken the law in his deportation efforts so it's possible they were overreaching somehow but sure, on its face likely not illegal.

and provocative for whom? if you're a criminal, all law enforcement is provocative. this isn't an argument.

you can't be "provoked" into looting, burning cars, and violence. if you're doing that, you're a criminal.

Provocative for these immigrant communities where many illegals who are part of the local fabric and who otherwise work hard are being disappeared by Feds in raids or by plain clothes officers in unmarked vans.

 

[Islam Imamate]

So Trump is sending in the guard to protect federal agents and buildings. Fuck the rest of thr city i hope they burn it down.

That's quite an ugly thing to say tbh.

 

[b34stmode]

So Trump is sending in the guard to protect federal agents and buildings. Fuck the rest of thr city i hope they burn it down.

You said you hope the city burns last night, and nothing happened at all. There was almost zero protest period. How dumb do you feel?

 

[Hog-train]

ICE and DHS officers and tbeir raids is what provoked the unrest, Trump is just using that unrest as a pretense to deploy military force in a state he had an open vendetta against. That in turn risks greater escalation.

Peaceful protests are fine - but you're not being honest when you don't admit the protesters were getting violent. That is where the escalation started. They started throwing shit at cops and impeding their movement and trying to physically stop them from doing their jobs.

I actually feel the cops were showing remarkable restraint. Saw multiple videos where cops just stood there as things were being thrown or their cars trashed.

It's only a matter of time before a cop feels significantly threatened by a thrown rock where they lethally shoot someone.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Provocative for these immigrant communities where many illegals who are part of the local fabric and who otherwise work hard are being disappeared by Feds in raids or by plain clothes officers in unmarked vans.

come on man, ICE is literally created for taking illegals away. they're the lawful side here.
"illegals were provoked" is a crazy argument. it's the "what was she wearing" argument.

"officer, i was provoked by the sight of her ass through that tight skirt, i'm innocent!"