Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

[Confucamus]

You have quite the vivid imagination, and the narratives you dream up are always self-serving.

I had you on ignore for years so maybe I missed your previous statements on the January 6th rioters.

Bullshit.

I will continue to call you out on issues like your position on Trump and his quest to control the Fed.

Anyone with an IQ north of 60 knows the Fed is independent by design and Trump's actions are both insane and potentially catastrophic. If he continues to nominate candidates who are completely loyal to him but incompetent as he's done this term, it will be a disaster if he does this with the Fed.

Even you know this but for some reason don't want to say it out loud.

You think Cook is above accountability. Got it. Keep the whining to the relevant threads.

 

[Loiosh]

Bullshit.

Such an eloquent reply.

You think Cook is above accountability. Got it. Keep the whining to the relevant threads.

Where did I say that?

Weird that you'd say that instead of addressing simple questions.

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[Phisher]

LOL So all of the workers that they rounded up at that Hyundai construction site entered the country under the visa waiver program because the Trump admin is delaying business vias while simultaneously demanding more foreign investment to reduce tariffs.

Then these people who were dispatched by Hyundai corporate in South Korea to set up the plant that is supposed to employ Americans get chained and frog marched like criminals.

All because some local fucking racist idiot called ICE for a publicity stunt to run for office.

This administration is a fucking joke.

No foreign company is going to willingly invest in the US with this level of stupidity rampant in the government. It doesn't matter if Trump is out in four years. The GOP could easily elect someone just as unhinged or worse.

 

[avenue94]

LOL So all of the workers that they rounded up at that Hyundai construction site entered the country under the visa waiver program because the Trump admin is delaying business vias while simultaneously demanding more foreign investment to reduce tariffs.

Then these people who were dispatched by Hyundai corporate in South Korea to set up the plant that is supposed to employ Americans get chained and frog marched like criminals.

All because some local fucking racist idiot called ICE for a publicity stunt to run for office.

This administration is a fucking joke.

No foreign company is going to willingly invest in the US with this level of stupidity rampant in the government. It doesn't matter if Trump is out in four years. The GOP could easily elect someone just as unhinged or worse.

Even if you accept the Trump admin line of improper visas, there are much more diplomatic ways to handle this with an ally that's investing a ton of money.

 

[Hog-train]

I can't tell who is lying:

1. Tom Homan said 70% of detentions are those that are criminals. 30% are national security threats and people with final deportation orders. He said this multiple times in the news and says mainstream media is lying.

Then there are those that may not have records, but were caught alongside the raids on criminals/deportation order people. That minority are the SOB stories you're hearing about in the news.

The other anti-deportation side in the news and by politicians are saying the COMPLETE OPPOSITE. That the vast majority of people being deported do no not have criminal records and are just hardworking Americans.

Who is telling the truth? It's like half the country are operating on a completely separate set of facts.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I can't tell who is lying:

1. Tom Homan said 70% of detentions are those that are criminals. 30% are national security threats and people with final deportation orders. He said this multiple times in the news and says mainstream media is lying.

Then there are those that may not have records, but were caught alongside the raids on criminals/deportation order people. That minority are the SOB stories you're hearing about in the news.

The other anti-deportation side in the news and by politicians are saying the COMPLETE OPPOSITE. That the vast majority of people being deported do no not have criminal records and are just hardworking Americans.

Who is telling the truth? It's like half the country are operating on a completely separate set of facts.

Well if a politician like Tim Walz is saying the latter, I would call him and his party the liars as in his state, shit like this happens

It seems they are just upset that it is being exposed and dealt with

 

[Hog-train]

Well if a politician like Tim Walz is saying the latter, I would call him and his party the liars as in his state, shit like this happens

It seems they are just upset that it is being exposed and dealt with

That's insane.

However, that's not my question and that's only 1 case. Homan and DHS is saying 70% of all detentions are criminals. Most of the media are saying the vast majority are not criminals. Who is telling the truth?

 

[Confucamus]

I can't tell who is lying:

1. Tom Homan said 70% of detentions are those that are criminals. 30% are national security threats and people with final deportation orders. He said this multiple times in the news and says mainstream media is lying.

Then there are those that may not have records, but were caught alongside the raids on criminals/deportation order people. That minority are the SOB stories you're hearing about in the news.

The other anti-deportation side in the news and by politicians are saying the COMPLETE OPPOSITE. That the vast majority of people being deported do no not have criminal records and are just hardworking Americans.

Who is telling the truth? It's like half the country are operating on a completely separate set of facts.

Tom Human did an interview on Piers Morgan the other day and it was very impactful. He mentioned a lot of stats, including the one you listed. This guy has some shocking stories. One story, he was explaining that if smugglers see they have been spotted by Border Patrol while they're sneaking migrants across the water in a boat, they will purposely throw a few migrants overboard because they know Border Patrol will try to save them first, and the smugglers will get away. One time this happened, one of the migrants they pulled out of the water was an 18 month old girl. Despite CPR, she died. Post mortem showed she had been sexually abused too. 18 months old, dude. Fucking animals.

 

[Hog-train]

Tom Human did an interview on Piers Morgan the other day and it was very impactful. He mentioned a lot of stats, including the one you listed. This guy has some shocking stories. One story, he was explaining that if smugglers see they have been spotted by Border Patrol while they're sneaking migrants across the water in a boat, they will purposely throw a few migrants overboard because they know Border Patrol will try to save them first, and the smugglers will get away. One time this happened, one of the migrants they pulled out of the water was an 18 month old girl. Despite CPR, she died. Post mortem showed she had been sexually abused too. 18 months old, dude. Fucking animals.

Here's Tom Homan who just went on CNBC. He says 70% are criminals and verbally spars with the hosts. Gets heated.



But then media outlets and the CATO institute here are saying 65% are NOT criminals.

Who is telling the truth? I legit can't tell.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions

 

[avenue94]

Here's Tom Homan who just went on CNBC. He says 70% are criminals and verbally spars with the hosts. Gets heated.



But then media outlets and the CATO institute here are saying 65% are NOT criminals.

Who is telling the truth? I legit can't tell.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions

I dunno, could it possibly be the administration whose lawyers keep lying in court of all places and having to walk stuff back? Note the crocodile tears that these children were frightened even though it was literally the DOJ's client that made the decision.

“It’s outrageous that the plaintiffs are trying to interfere with these reunifications,” Ensign said at the Aug. 31 hearing. “All of these children have parents or guardians in Guatemala who have requested their return...”
Welch said the administration’s initial claim that parents had requested their children’s return should be considered “withdrawn.” She also lamented the government’s rushed effort to rouse the children from bed and deport them overnight on a holiday weekend. “It was unfortunate that the children were frightened and pulled out in the middle of the night,” Welch said.

 

[Stoic1]

Tom Human did an interview on Piers Morgan the other day and it was very impactful. He mentioned a lot of stats, including the one you listed. This guy has some shocking stories. One story, he was explaining that if smugglers see they have been spotted by Border Patrol while they're sneaking migrants across the water in a boat, they will purposely throw a few migrants overboard because they know Border Patrol will try to save them first, and the smugglers will get away. One time this happened, one of the migrants they pulled out of the water was an 18 month old girl. Despite CPR, she died. Post mortem showed she had been sexually abused too. 18 months old, dude. Fucking animals.

I live my life knowing demons walk among us. Be vigilant.

 

[Rod1]

That's insane.

However, that's not my question and that's only 1 case. Homan and DHS is saying 70% of all detentions are criminals. Most of the media are saying the vast majority are not criminals. Who is telling the truth?

Do you think that granny that was held over a $25 bad check she wrote 10 years ago to be a criminal?

Technically yes, since she got probation.

 

[Rod1]

LOL So all of the workers that they rounded up at that Hyundai construction site entered the country under the visa waiver program because the Trump admin is delaying business vias while simultaneously demanding more foreign investment to reduce tariffs.

Then these people who were dispatched by Hyundai corporate in South Korea to set up the plant that is supposed to employ Americans get chained and frog marched like criminals.

All because some local fucking racist idiot called ICE for a publicity stunt to run for office.

This administration is a fucking joke.

No foreign company is going to willingly invest in the US with this level of stupidity rampant in the government. It doesn't matter if Trump is out in four years. The GOP could easily elect someone just as unhinged or worse.

This happens when you use quotas like commies do, people will look to fill that quota.

What is easier to get 480 guys who are workers and will all be working at a single site or criminals who don't may not eve have a permanent address.

 

[Hog-train]

Do you think that granny that was held over a $25 bad check she wrote 10 years ago to be a criminal?

Technically yes, since she got probation.

A granny that wrote a bad check would probably just get a plea deal and get off with probation. To actually get convicted of a crime, means it's usually a more serious crime or they're multiple offenders.

 

[Rod1]

To actually get convicted of a crime, means it's usually a more serious crime or they're multiple offenders.

And yet she is being deported over it.

Misdemeanors are crimes and you have to accept guilt in the first place to get a deal like probation, considering Trump's quotas in place its a no-brainer ICE guys who are after all just another bunch of power-tripping 3 letter bureaucrats are going to go ALWAYS for the low hanging fruit.

Just make a database of all non-nationals and then run background tests on them for anything at all and presto, you got your "mass deportation" quota express filled up.

 

[ShadowRun]

Another day, another story

 

[Kingz]

Damn, border is so quiet these days it might just become prime real estate for new homes

 

[Hog-train]

Damn, border is so quiet these days it might just become prime real estate for new homes

I cannot believe this was allowed to happen for 4 years. Trump will never be able to reverse all that damage in 3.5 years. Every single person is making it really hard to deport them.

All the 1 million plus Venezuelans that came in are refusing to leave. We've only deported like 2.5k Venezuelans so far. That is a pittance compared to how many came in.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I cannot believe this was allowed to happen for 4 years. Trump will never be able to reverse all that damage in 3.5 years. Every single person is making it really hard to deport them.

All the 1 million plus Venezuelans that came in are refusing to leave. We've only deported like 2.5k Venezuelans so far. That is a pittance compared to how many came in.

I was promised 3k a day