There’s still a major misunderstanding on your part here: if the Venezuelans are being deported, and El Salvador agrees to take them,
they should be free to go in El Salvador. Most of them had
no US convictions. And they aren’t facing charges in El Salvador either AFAIK. They’re just shoved into a gulag to suffer.
Most likely that's the only place El Salvador had to hold them in. Not like they have the resources to have separate detention centers.
And those people are back in Venezuela now. So I don't care.
That's the price you pay for illegally entering the country from a country that doesn't accept you back as a deportee. They could have easily just gone to neighboring Colombia or gone for asylum in the numerous countries in between the US and Venezuela.
Even ones they took back because they were El Salvadoran citizens and we deported them shouldn’t be imprisoned unless, at a minimum, they are facing charges in El Salvador.
How do you know the El Salvadoreans deported didn't have gang affiliations or criminal records? We're not getting access to criminal records from Venezuela, so we can't even check that. If some recent illegal has teardrop tattoos and gang tattoos or gang signs everywhere, but no criminal record here, I don't give a fuck. Deport them.
You do know all these people you claim "have no criminal convictions" just means no crime in the US right? They could easily have been doing crime in their home countries, but we don't have the resources nor access to check that when they come in illegally.
On top of that, you can easily be part of a gang without a criminal conviction in the US. They are after all very recent arrivals.
There were a significant number in our jails, but mostly with pending charges, not convictions. Most weren’t serving a sentence. If we’ve decided to drop charges and deport instead, they should be free to go. What’s happening instead— they’re just in some shithole gulag with no charges, and no pending trial date? The entire situation is unconscionable.
Again, the U.S. *believing* they are gang members is not sufficient reason to imprison someone without charges. Trump is skirting this by shipping them off to CECOT where they can be treated like subhuman shit and our courts have limited or no jurisdiction over it. It’s unacceptable.
But they're illegal El Salvadoreans that are deportable. Why in the world do we need to wait for a conviction when we can just deport them legally? They're already illegal with no status.
It's up to Bukele and his administration to decide what to do with them after they're deported there. El Salvador must believe they're gang members or perhaps they already had criminal records there. Maybe some of them have been released already. Who knows? Not our problem.
No he didn’t. Leonel Eschavez used the CBPOne app and scheduled an appointment at an authorized point of entry. We processed him in, he did not cross illegally.
Ok so he probably had his asylum case dismissed and then they used expedited removal.
The same process that Obama used literally millions of times for recent arrivals. Biden also used expedited removal millions of times. Why is it ok for Obama and every other President to use it, but Trump?
But even if he had, your POV on this is sideways. You’re basically saying, “We know so-and-so broke a law so it’s fine for them to be imprisoned somewhere for months without charges.” And it isn’t ok. Saying, “Well, we know they’re illegals” isn’t sufficient for people to be in jails or prisons for months without charges.
So if a deportable illegal immigrant comes from a country that doesn't accept their deportees back, we're not allowed to deport them? What are we supposed to do with them?
Imprisoned somewhere for a few months is not that big a deal. That's the price you just paid for illegally entering the country. They're back home now so who gives a shit.
