How would Dustin VS Illia play out?

[rollthedice]

You can argue Max is a better boxer, or Volk even, but Dustin is bigger and hits harder than both of them. He's also arguably the best boxer in the division behind Ilia.

It would make for one hell of a scrap, they both got that dog in em and they both can end the fight with one shot

 

[rollthedice]

Genuine LMFAO @ including Hooker in this. Hooker is not a league above Mac Danzig let alone anyone relevant.

Poirier faced 1 up and comer in the last decade so that's a total lie. He's barely done anything since his fights with Conor FFS.... take a second to acknowledge just how much time has passed since he was actually on a streak and you'll realize how insulting it is that OP suggested he could get ANOTHER shot. That would be 3 title shots coming off 1 win in a row and 5 TOTAL... even Urijah Faber would scoff at that level of favoritism.

Gaethje has only beaten Fiziev in 2 close decisions so it is also false to suggest he has been actively fighting and knocking down potential prospects. Hey... at least he beat Poirier in their rematch but what else has he done in the last 5 years except lose gifted title shots? Just like Poirier, he has the 1 sloppy seconds win over Chandler (who is now 1-5 in his last 6) separating him from now ancient wins over retired stars... both are clogging up the division with their cherry picking opponents and repeated title shots. People hate to admit it because they're much more likeable/exciting but there really isn't that much separating their behavior from Colby Covington's.

Arman really hasn't done much of anything yet and is far from some proven entity. He was one of only 2 people ever who decisioned Charles (who has been stopped 9 times including 2 recent ones) and he's playing suit with the rest and sitting out for over a year waiting for a shot. In what way is he "leagues above" the rest of the division?

And then finally we have Charles who was actually the active, defending champion and thus has a completely valid reason to not be gatekeeping against up and comers. However, to no one's surprise, his schedule has been clogged up fighting the usual suspects (including 2 wins over Chandler, oo la la) further adding to the monotony of the division. While it's great that Charles is active and is clearly willing to fight anyone, I am hoping that he will actually give some new faces a chance now that he's lost 2 title fights convincingly and is in his late 30s. He's not an offender right now... but if we see Charles vs Gaethje 2 booked next, he'll quickly join the ranks.

So yeah I call BS on your "the old lions keep on fending off the new lions" theory. The LW division keeps recycling the same names because the UFC has been incredibly desperate for star power since Khabib/Conor retired and they did everything in their power to try and get either Poirier/Gaethje to get a belt.

The marketing has clearly worked on you but objectively, these guys (except Arman) are all several years removed from a significant win streak and are just cherry picking "low risk" fights against each other while preventing ANY opportunity for someone new to climb the ranks. How are new prospects going to get credibility when they don't even get the chance to fight name opponents? That's how WW ended up in the state its in with Shavkat being anchored by a win over a 40 year old Wonderboy Thompson... rank squatters are ruining the sport and I'll be glad when Poirier is gone for good

 

[Harlekin]

Prime Poirier dropped Max and hurt him multiple times.
He has a lot more power and 3 inches in reach on Max/Top to keep his opponents away.

I got Topuria winning, especially nowadays, but it will be a great battle and go into the later rounds.

Poirier will retire though, pointless thoughts.

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

Top folds him... 2rd KO

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Catches him similar to the way MJ caught him unfortunately

 

[chinarice]

I am not convinced Poirier would beat Volk or Ilia.

 

[FriskyRandy]

I would hope Dustin gets flatlined if that happens. He had a great career but he has WAY overstayed his welcome and I am sick of seeing his name on cards at this point.

The guy's 0-3 in title fights (0-4 if you count that BMF joke), has had 6 REMATCHES in recent years, and would be riding a whopping 1 fight win streak against a guy he'd have now beaten THREE TIMES... who would be the co-main event on that card? Cain vs Bigfoot Silva??

Nah, Dustin can GTFO win or lose against Holloway. I'd rather he avenge his loss and take Michael Johnson out of the UFC on this card than have everyone's time wasted with yet another pointless fight with Max. 2 top 5 ranked fighters do not need to be tied up in a pointless fight with zero title implications in a main event... LW and FW are too starved for new talent for this BS.

Hoping a human being gets knocked out cold for the reasons you listed is very strange behavior.

 

[HeadKickerV2]

Dustin has a small chance but most likely gets kod inside 2

Dustins counters are slick, he could catch him if Ilia underestimates him

 

[Koro_11]

With Dustin laying on his back staring at the ceiling with his toes curled backwards.

 

[Koro_11]

Hoping a human being gets knocked out cold for the reasons you listed is very strange behavior.

You sound sensitive, pick another sport to watch.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Who is a better boxer than Poirier that Illia has fought? Don't say Volk, Max or Emmett please

volkanovski is better than poirier at frankly every aspect of mma.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I would hope Dustin gets flatlined if that happens. He had a great career but he has WAY overstayed his welcome and I am sick of seeing his name on cards at this point.

The guy's 0-3 in title fights (0-4 if you count that BMF joke), has had 6 REMATCHES in recent years, and would be riding a whopping 1 fight win streak against a guy he'd have now beaten THREE TIMES... who would be the co-main event on that card? Cain vs Bigfoot Silva??

Nah, Dustin can GTFO win or lose against Holloway. I'd rather he avenge his loss and take Michael Johnson out of the UFC on this card than have everyone's time wasted with yet another pointless fight with Max. 2 top 5 ranked fighters do not need to be tied up in a pointless fight with zero title implications in a main event... LW and FW are too starved for new talent for this BS.

I agree, I cant believe he got a title fight he didnt deserve against islam, THEN he gets a PPV main event in his own home town after losing.

TBH it's the fans fault. I hate mma fans and the shit they like honestly. Guys like Charles and Dustin get so much shit they dont deserve all the time because fans suck them off. the two most dana white privileged fighters out there. I hope Max brutally KO's dustin in his send off. Also Hope charles retires / goes to PFL. I dont want to see either of them at the top of a UFC card again.

 

[richardjohnson]

Poirier haters are some of the weirdest people that follow this sport. He’s a standup guy that puts on great fights but a lot of people hate him because he beat up their hero twice.

 

[rollthedice]

volkanovski is better than poirier at frankly every aspect of mma.

That's Ludacris homie, boxing and subs go to Dustin, Volk can have everything else tho

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

That's Ludacris homie, boxing and subs go to Dustin, Volk can have everything else tho

boxing and subs go to the guy who's been KO'd and subbed a gang of times?

 

[rollthedice]

I agree, I cant believe he got a title fight he didnt deserve against islam, THEN he gets a PPV main event in his own home town after losing.

TBH it's the fans fault. I hate mma fans and the shit they like honestly. Guys like Charles and Dustin get so much shit they dont deserve all the time because fans suck them off. the two most dana white privileged fighters out there. I hope Max brutally KO's dustin in his send off. Also Hope charles retires / goes to PFL. I dont want to see either of them at the top of a UFC card again.

I genuinely can't tell if you're retarded, salty or just having a bad day and venting on here.

Charles and Dustin are two guys who have never ducked, always stepped up for the company and are both fan friendly and proven top of the food chain fighters in the LW division..

Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well on sherdog.

I can think of a bunch of fighters more privileged than those two so cram it with your pessimistic ass.

I agree with the last part, let Max KO Dustin so he can fight Illia again instead. Let Dustin retire so we can BSD a title shot and let Charles go to PFL so we can have Chandler and Dariush in the top 5

 

[rollthedice]

boxing and subs go to the guy who's been KO'd and subbed a gang of times?

It goes to the person who has more knockouts and submission victory's due to those two approaches, not the person who needs to use kicks, clinch, wall n stall and takedowns and has great sub defense, grit and cardio to win his fights ya goof

 

[JBJ was here]

Sometimes the +700 fighter wins, but it's not likely. Round 2 or 3 (T)KO for Topuria. At least it would be a better fight than Topuria vs. Pimblett.

 

[arcadeperfect]

Illia. No one is boxing with that guy and winning. You need a tall rangy striker with good TDD.

 

[rollthedice]

You sound sensitive, pick another sport to watch.

You sound like Dustin lives in your head rent free