How many UFC fans are also WWE fans?

I was a WWE fan when Lex Luger was in there
 
Kal-El said:
Yes noticeably better when triple h in charge. I used to love Vince, but he's old and senile now. It was unwatchable with him in control, they have great talent but the shows we're awful.

You can tell he has snuck back in though with the recent wrestlemania matches, matches thrown together with no back story. They use to have months long rivalries and story lines so the match really mattered. Bloodline and Sami Zane was good, but, Charlotte (who is an amazing talent) thrown together with Rhea Ripley with almost zero build up, same as Bianca and Asuka
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True, you put it better than i could.
 
trenton123 said:
All of that applies to the old stuff you used to enjoy, only now you are grown up and see it for what it is.
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No not really. Stone Cold's character for instance, a guy that's anti authority that kicks his boss' ass is universally relatable. The Rock being the humorous Jock, Mankind the classic underdog story etc These were all intriguing characters you could either get behind or boo viciously. Now the characters are guy who wants belt, guy with bland name etc.Wrestling has never been about the moves but these newer generations have made it about the moves. Everyone is in on the secret so the moves are far less important than the characters, plus we've got Japan if we want to just watch a match for the in ring action. I remember watching a pro wrestling exposed documentary as a kid and learned to appreciate the art behind it after that. I could tell if someone was safe, if a move was executed properly, if they hid the blade well enough when juicing etc I stopped watching when I got too invested in Pride, UFC, Boxing and Kickboxing around '03 but would check back every now and then. Every time I check back there is nothing appealing, it looks like a bunch of Welterweights with no charisma doing a gymnastics routine. There's one current star called MJF that knows what wrestling is supposed to be but the rest are a joke.
 
chaos_36 said:
No not really. Stone Cold's character for instance, a guy that's anti authority that kicks his boss' ass is universally relatable. The Rock being the humorous Jock, Mankind the classic underdog story etc These were all intriguing characters you could either get behind or boo viciously. Now the characters are guy who wants belt, guy with bland name etc.Wrestling has never been about the moves but these newer generations have made it about the moves. Everyone is in on the secret so the moves are far less important than the characters, plus we've got Japan if we want to just watch a match for the in ring action. I remember watching a pro wrestling exposed documentary as a kid and learned to appreciate the art behind it after that. I could tell if someone was safe, if a move was executed properly, if they hid the blade well enough when juicing etc I stopped watching when I got too invested in Pride, UFC, Boxing and Kickboxing around '03 but would check back every now and then. Every time I check back there is nothing appealing, it looks like a bunch of Welterweights with no charisma doing a gymnastics routine. There's one current star called MJF that knows what wrestling is supposed to be but the rest are a joke.
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The bloodline, Kevin owens, and sami Zayn storyline is pretty good imo. Also in WWE, austin theory is as good of a heel as mjf is imo considering he has to be tv friendly
 
Pliny Pete said:
They didnt co win the battle royal, Bret tried that cowardly shit but ole Bad News wasnt going for it so he hit Bret with the Ghetto Blaster and eliminated his sucka ass
Then poor sport Bret smashed up the trophy like the sore loser he's always been!
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Oh right I have kid memory of it and haven't seen it again as an adult. Loved the ghetto blaster as a kid, the little brothers got hit with it on numerous occasions.
 
hswrestler said:
The bloodline, Kevin owens, and sami Zayn storyline is pretty good imo. Also in WWE, austin theory is as good of a heel as mjf is imo considering he has to be tv friendly
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Yeah I wouldn't know, I don't follow it anymore. I watch MJF promos and NJPW matches if they create enough buzz and that's about it. I know who all those people are you mentioned though.
 
Back when it was WWF it was stellar. Dude's had real acting/gimmick chops and nobody took it seriously. It was light-hearted and generally a great time.

Flash forward to today and it's an embarrassing display of try-hard garbage with zero soul.
 
I'm curious what you mean. I'm too young to know how the wwf was. Are there any wwf matches i can watch on YouTube to get how the vibe was? Imo the whole bloodline storyline was pretty emotional

Natural Order said:
Back when it was WWF it was stellar. Dude's had real acting/gimmick chops and nobody took it seriously. It was light-hearted and generally a great time.

Flash forward to today and it's an embarrassing display of try-hard garbage with zero soul.
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I prefer AEW but Wrestlemania had some strong matches this year.
 
hswrestler said:
I'm curious what you mean. I'm too young to know how the wwf was. Are there any wwf matches i can watch on YouTube to get how the vibe was? Imo the whole bloodline storyline was pretty emotional
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Sure, there's endless hours of footage of WWF pro wrestling. I'm sure you could spend days going down a vintage rabbit hole of legendary shit on Youtube.

Eventually in the late 90's it unfortunately became a clinical shift to edgy nonsense and it's gotten progressively (key word right there in more ways than one) worse. The stuff on today is absolute dogshit imo.
 
I wouldn't call myself a fan, as i've maybe watched live wrestling 3 or 4 times in the last 15 years, but when I was growing up I enjoyed it.

The industry is crazy and rich with many stories of people who are basically carnys, who are a travelling group that have live wrestling matches every single week. So the bussiness happenings that are real, Involving Vince, paul, Stephanie ect are interesting to me, til this day.

Basically, I dont watch wrestling but I've enjoyed wrestling before. It has an interesting a unique culture to it, that you've seen cross into many other events and spectales.
 
seanwongster said:
How much synergy is there actually between these two businesses?

How many people were fans of WWE? How many people are still fans of WWE?

I used to watch MMA off and on (sometimes for big fights) before Brock Lesnar came to the UFC. I knew big names in the industry but that was it. I used to be a big WWE fan though and was a huge fan of Lesnar, I started watching MMA once Brock came to the UFC and I heard he became champion. Eventually, I stopped watching WWE and now I just mainly watch UFC and once in a while some other fight promotions.

Yeah... I'm one of those fans that migrated over with Lesnar
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I used to be a huge wrestling fan but the product has become so stale and generic. If I ever get an itch to watch I'll just pop on an old match from the 2000's or 90's
 
I've never been into Pro Wrasslin'. I did like playing that Def Jam Vendetta game on PSone when I was a kid though.

<{JustBleed}>
MMA/JBG BLESS
 
chaos_36 said:
I was a die-hard pro wrestling fan long before I was ever a fan of actual combat. I remember watching Bad News Brown smash a trophy over Bret "The Hitman" Hart's head after they co won a battle royale. I thought it was the most despicable, cowardly thing as a kid and had to watch to see if the dude in the pink ever got him back. The art of pro wrestling has truly been lost though, the characters are unappealing, the story lines are lame, the moves resemble video games and look too choreographed to resemble anything close to plausible. The promos are horrible and cringey, the story arcs genuinely have little to no pay off. Everything that made pro wrestling great just doesn't exist anymore and it's because this younger generation of performers don't listen to those that paved the way because they think they know how the business works. Wrestling will never get back to what it was because the wrestlers are now marks for themselves.
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Agree with everything you said. I know many people will say it was nostalgia, but wrestling was ONCE a good and well performed product.
 
Wrestling is good old entertainment, MMA is a sport. Why do people always compare the two? Although WWE aint what it used to be, no-one can deny that WWF Attitude Era was cooler than any MMA or boxing fight.
 
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