Opinion How can anyone honestly say that the left is patriotic?

calavera2 said:
O.k. let me try again...If you are not white and you feel you can blend in with neo nazi's and confederates as long as you are holding the American flag then you are a bigger moron than I thought. Other wise it's just white people who hold similar sympathies because of their race. It's not that complicated. You are not exposing anything...you are straw manning who you think the left is and nothing more.
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I'm not straw manning anything, I'm admitting what the extreme members on the left are. If I wanted to expose the far right, then sure I can they are racist, ignorant and whatever but that's not what this thread is about. You seriously believe that the fringe people on the right have more animosity for this country, the history, and the constitution than the extreme people on the left? I mean how much more simple can they make it for you?

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GolovKing said:
I'm not straw manning anything, I'm admitting what the extreme members on the left are. If I wanted to expose the far right, then sure I can they are racist, ignorant and whatever but that's not what this thread is about. You seriously believe that the fringe people on the right have more animosity for this country, the history, and the constitution than the extreme people on the left? I mean how much more simple can they make it for you?

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Willful ignorance...if you cannot comprehend a hard core BLM'er having a problem with America and its History. I'm not making excuses for them but neither do I consider BLM to be the "left". They are activists who feel aggrieved because of their race and hate America and much of what it stands for because they have been excluded. They are wrong on many of the facts such as cops killing blacks indiscriminately but they do have some valid grievances. I am also well aware of some of their commie leadership.

Do I believe the fringe right has animosity for this country...you damn right I do. There is evidence a plenty of terrorists and secessionists. If that is not hatred of your country I don't know what is. The fringe right does not care about the constitution or the founding or whatever else you imagined in your head. There are plenty of examples of that as well.

You are incapable of making this a simple argument and i'd love to see you try to inflitrate some nazi's by waving the American flag around....lol
 
If breaking into the Capitol, stealing stuff, breaking stuff and rubbing your own feces on the walls is considered being Patriotic than I guess I am not a Patriot.
These threads crack me up.
I stand for National Anthem, take my hat off and taught my kids to do the same. Fly an American flag outside my house, most of the year. I also am secure enough I don't need to over compensate for anything. Some of the displays of Patriotism is just virtue signaling to a certain base. Its like seeing a politician wearing two lapel flag pins. One should be sufficient.
Much like people who tell you how religious they are, anyone that brags about their patriotism comes off as insecure and needs to identify with something.
I know people who are religious and patriotic they just don't feel the need to tell everyone all the time about it.
 
heloder said:
This isn't the flag of the US:

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And neither are these:

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nothing screams of true patriotism like smearing your shit on the capitol walls, having insurrections against your own nations government, and wanting to secede from your own country because you're mad that more people voted for the other guy in an election.
 
GolovKing said:
Lol you don't have a clue, either that or you're purposely ignoring the truth. Ask yourself this, why is it that I can easily blend in and get away with flying an American flag next to those confederates and neonazis? Why is it that if you try and do the same at an antifa or blm rally you will get looked at with disgust or get your flag yanked out of your hand and assaulted?
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You would not be looked at with disgust carrying an American flag at a left wing rally or get it snatched out of your hand. You made that up.

A 1/6 rioter BEAT a police officer with a pole flying an American flag at the insurrection. Lots of right wing Patriotism.
 
Generally speaking, it's best to stop painging "sides" as just left and right. There are patriots on all sides of the political spectrum and many people have wildly differing visions of what the nation was, is and should be.
 
44nutman said:
Lol.
https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors
Both sides are bought. Why did Trump and Biden take Pfizer money during 2020, if both parties are so different . Then Trump celebrity endorsed Pfizer by saying that was the Vaccine he took.
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People honestly think Trump is not part of the establishment because he acts like an asshole and says what he thinks. They simply ignore the fact that he hung out with all the same people before running like the Clintons and Epstein and also held pretty liberal views for most of his life. So odd how this guy has become the face of the right's populist movement when he has never given a single fuck about any of them.
 
Zazen said:
People honestly think Trump is not part of the establishment because he acts like an asshole and says what he thinks. They simply ignore the fact that he hung out with all the same people before running like the Clintons and Epstein and also held pretty liberal views for most of his life. So odd how this guy has become the face of the right's populist movement when he has never given a single fuck about any of them.
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Sheldon Adelson gave Trump 75 million for him to run for President. Donny paid Sheldon back by giving Sheldon's wife the Presidential Medal of Freedom, for I guess fucking Sheldon. I cant think of any other reason she gets that medal other than letting Sheldon when he was alive, climb on top her when the Rhino horn kicked in. Trump did a little quid pro quo for Sheldon.
The whole Trump is some outsider is just pure fantasy.
If both parties are so different why are the accepting money from the same lobbies?
 
badascan said:
There is a relentless movement to make America appear as a failed state in need of revision. Many people are told that's what they need to think and promote...
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Are you talking about the left or MAGA?
 
calavera2 said:
Willful ignorance...if you cannot comprehend a hard core BLM'er having a problem with America and its History. I'm not making excuses for them but neither do I consider BLM to be the "left". They are activists who feel aggrieved because of their race and hate America and much of what it stands for because they have been excluded. They are wrong on many of the facts such as cops killing blacks indiscriminately but they do have some valid grievances. I am also well aware of some of their commie leadership.

Do I believe the fringe right has animosity for this country...you damn right I do. There is evidence a plenty of terrorists and secessionists. If that is not hatred of your country I don't know what is. The fringe right does not care about the constitution or the founding or whatever else you imagined in your head. There are plenty of examples of that as well.

You are incapable of making this a simple argument and i'd love to see you try to inflitrate some nazi's by waving the American flag around....lol
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So you don't believe BLM is part of the left but yet you have no issue lumping in Neo-Nazis in with the right? Why are we even talking about Neo-Nazis in 2021, they are such a fringe group with no support they are not even worth mentioning. Do you see Republicans co-signing Neo-Nazis in the same way the Dems do with blm?
 
UFCUCF said:
You would not be looked at with disgust carrying an American flag at a left wing rally or get it snatched out of your hand. You made that up.

A 1/6 rioter BEAT a police officer with a pole flying an American flag at the insurrection. Lots of right wing Patriotism.
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So this is all fake and I'm just imagining things





How come every time a confrontation like this happens at a protest its always the same side defending the flag and the other side is trying to destroy it?



 
GolovKing said:
I know the right has its own issues but one side is flying the flag of the US and the other flies every flag but the US, yet they often argue that they are more patriotic than the right. Doesn't it seem obvious that left is on path to dismantling eventually overthrowing the US from existence?

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So if you know the right has issues what are they? Or you just saying that?
 
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