Elections Hillary will be President.

[UpaLoompa]

Most who vote for her wont even know the primary differences between each party.

To the extent that's true (which I think is probably overstated) it is likely similarly true between the parties.

Anyways, she has no chance. SHe finished 3rd last time when she was a lock. I think she will get the nod this time, but whoever makes it out of the GOP is going to slaughter her.

When was Edwards ever very close? I actually liked Edwards quite a bit (in retrospect that's pretty funny) but he was never really in it.

 

[Quipling]

There are people of voting age who weren't even born when Bill was president. They don't have nostalgia to the Clinton's or those times. I see them looking for someone new and fresh to take the reigns.

Voting age: 18
2015-18=1997
AND
Next presidential term starts in 2017
2017-18=1999
Bill clinton presidency: 1993-2001
You're bad at math.

Anyways, she has no chance. SHe finished 3rd last time when she was a lock. I think she will get the nod this time, but whoever makes it out of the GOP is going to slaughter her.

She had 1,896 delegates to Obama's 2,201. Edwards had 6. Come again?

 

[IDL]

Get ready for your liberal peers to tell you you are a sexist bigot if you don't support her.

This morning on my local Canadian radio station it reported that Hillary was running, and that she was going to be challenging the 'glass ceiling of politics'

Radio stations typically just read items from a subscribed news service, so it's an indication of the type of language we should be expecting in regards to working the woman angle.

It's predictable because it works, so it's just a matter of how hard they push it.

 

[UpaLoompa]

This morning on my local Canadian radio station it reported that Hillary was running, and that she was going to be challenging the 'glass ceiling of politics'

Radio stations typically just read items from a subscribed news service, so it's an indication of the type of language we should be expecting in regards to working the woman angle.

It's predictable because it works, so it's just a matter of how hard they push it.

I'm no fan of Clinton but have you maybe considered that there is a glass ceiling? There have been two major party female VP candidates (one mentally challenged, the other several decades ago). There have been no major party female presidential candidates. There are currently only 6 female governors, you'd expect 25. There are currently 20 female senators, you'd expect 50. There are currently 84 female representatives, you'd expect 217.5.

The demographics are even more out of whack for racial and religious minorities. Our government is disproportionately white and male. That really can't be argued though the why certainly could be.

Vote for or against Hillary on the basis of her policies, not gender. However there's no reason to pretend there's not a glass ceiling. The permeability of that ceiling is improving but it's clearly still there.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Voting age: 18
2015-18=1997
AND
Next presidential term starts in 2017
2017-18=1999
Bill clinton presidency: 1993-2001
You're bad at math.

Bill Clinton was first elected in 1992. You're bad at presidents.

I said there were people not even born when he was elected and would be of voting age. They were children during his presidency. I don't think they are going to be loyal to the Clinton's as someone in their 20s during his run would have been.

 

[Makani]

Most liberals I know don't particularly support her beyond a general sentiment that the GOP has awful positions on policies and so Hilary would be preferable.

Yep, this is where most of the people I talk to are at. I don't know anyone who is "excited" for Hillary, just a matter of the alternative being so horrific.

 

[IDL]

I'm no fan of Clinton but have you maybe considered that there is a glass ceiling? There have been two major party female VP candidates (one mentally challenged, the other several decades ago). There have been no major party female presidential candidates. There are currently only 6 female governors, you'd expect 25. There are currently 20 female senators, you'd expect 50. There are currently 84 female representatives, you'd expect 217.5.

The demographics are even more out of whack for racial and religious minorities. Our government is disproportionately white and male. That really can't be argued though the why certainly could be.

Vote for or against Hillary on the basis of her policies, not gender. However there's no reason to pretend there's not a glass ceiling. The permeability of that ceiling is improving but it's clearly still there.

There probably is a glass ceiling of sorts, but I think it applies to people who don't plan on 'playing ball' with the existing power structure. That is not to say it is more difficult for women as well though.

With Hillary, she has been a power player for the globalist club for a long time. She is very much passed the major glass ceiling.

But regardless, I am more referring to the political language used to get her elected. If people feel enticed to support 'breaking the glass ceiling' then that just makes a mockery of the system because supposedly that position is a powerful one and the content of the person should in theory matter more than superficial appeals.

The people that run campaigns know most people don't follow politics, or know much about the candidates, let alone have an advanced understanding of the political game. So of course they will use these appeals. Can't really blame them.

 

[Quipling]

Bill Clinton was first elected in 1992. You're bad at presidents.

I said there were people not even born when he was elected and would be of voting age. They were children during his presidency

No, that is not what you said. Also, presidents come into office the year after they are elected. You also don't know that, apparently.

There are people of voting age who weren't even born when Bill was president

 

[Cookie Crisp]

 

[MuyThaiTom]

I don't think I could handle another having another highly demonized liberal in office. I'm not a huge Obama supporter but the amount of hate he gets down here in the south is insane and very annoying; it'll be the same for Hillary.

News flash, any democrat who is President will be demonized by Fox News and Republican congress. Hillary is singled out because she is the biggest threat. Replace her and they change tactics and attach the new person.

Bill Clinton was a great president. Newt and Fox foamed at the mouth on a daily basis about him.

 

[Tekk]

News flash, any democrat who is President will be demonized by Fox News and Republican congress. Hillary is singled out because she is the biggest threat. Replace her and they change tactics and attach the new person.

Bill Clinton was a great president. Newt and Fox foamed at the mouth on a daily basis about him.

Remember the list of 100 people that the Clinton a supposedly killed?

 

[Denter]

I'm no fan of Clinton but have you maybe considered that there is a glass ceiling? There have been two major party female VP candidates (one mentally challenged, the other several decades ago). There have been no major party female presidential candidates. There are currently only 6 female governors, you'd expect 25. There are currently 20 female senators, you'd expect 50. There are currently 84 female representatives, you'd expect 217.5.

The demographics are even more out of whack for racial and religious minorities. Our government is disproportionately white and male. That really can't be argued though the why certainly could be.

Vote for or against Hillary on the basis of her policies, not gender. However there's no reason to pretend there's not a glass ceiling. The permeability of that ceiling is improving but it's clearly still there.

Why would you expect 50/50? That's kindof strange....

 

[Terry Noonan]

Hilary is a bad candidate.

 

[UpaLoompa]

Why would you expect 50/50? That's kindof strange....

What expectation would you have and why? Barring any other information you might expect representation to equal proportion of population. Given age requirements and temporal changes in educational attainment you could reasonably argue for probably somewhere around 60-55:40-45. Under 20% for both the House and for governors? I can't think of an argument where that's going to hold up.

 

[HAWTRIDDUM]

Huge if true

 

[Witchhunt]

Yes he is. Born in Canada. He cannot be elected as President of the U.S.

"Ted Cruz was born in Canada. His mother was born in Delaware. Cruz' father was born in Cuba, lived in the U.S. on a student visa, went to Canada and became a Canadian citizen. But, he did not become a naturalized U.S. citizen until 2005. "

http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd636.htm

Doesn't matter where he was born as long as his mother was a citizen.

 

[IIIIIIII]

it more than likely will be hilary clinton. and it will be for the wrong reasons. people are going to vote for her in order to, "make history" like what happened with obama in 08'. and then you'll have all these women crying because, "a woman finally made it!".

 

[UpaLoompa]

it more than likely will be hilary clinton. and it will be for the wrong reasons. people are going to vote for her in order to, "make history" like what happened with obama in 08'. and then you'll have all these women crying because, "a woman finally made it!".

Can you count?

 

[Denter]

What expectation would you have and why? Barring any other information you might expect representation to equal proportion of population. Given age requirements and temporal changes in educational attainment you could reasonably argue for probably somewhere around 60-55:40-45. Under 20% for both the House and for governors? I can't think of an argument where that's going to hold up.

Let's see: most women want to, and end up, having children. That requires taking time off for kids and limiting their schedules. Also, many women plan for this and deliberately choose careers that are more family-friendly.

Being a high-level politician is like being a CEO- it requires alot of drive and long hours to get there. Just by the fact that women are mothers means that much, much fewer of them will end up in these positions than men.

 

[UpaLoompa]

Let's see: most women want to, and end up, having children. That requires taking time off for kids and limiting their schedules. Also, many women plan for this and deliberately choose careers that are more family-friendly.

Being a high-level politician is like being a CEO- it requires alot of drive and long hours to get there. Just by the fact that women are mothers means that much, much fewer of them will end up in these positions than men.

So what's your expected percentage?