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Can you count?
can you say something that makes sense?
Can you count?
You were implying that Obama's victory was driven by motivations that don't actually match the votes.can you say something that makes sense?
You were implying that Obama's victory was driven by motivations that don't actually match the votes.
So McCain and Palin were the victims of affirmative action. Generally disastrous policies from the GOP over 8 years and a shitty GOP ticket weren't too important.i think that obama being black was the tipping point that gave him the victory. of course, the, "anti-bush" folks also played a part. but as the campaign continued to move forward, the media started playing up obama's race, and how, "history" is potentially going to be made. part of it was the anti-bush sentiment, like mentioned. but a lot of people wanted to break the white-stronghold in the white house, as a sign of the entire world moving past race. ironically enough, it was that very thing that gave obama the presidency.
and with hilary clinton, people are going to want to do the same with a woman in the white house. i would bet that most women in the u.s. will vote for a woman candidate.
in the end, it's a popularity contest.
So McCain and Palin were the victims of affirmative action. Generally disastrous policies from the GOP over 8 years and a shitty GOP ticket weren't too important.
What about 2012 when Obama still won over 50% of the popular vote (by more than W did in 2004)? Was that still because he was black?
One with the most $$$ in bribes, sorry, donations wins.
Hilary is a bad candidate.
i think that obama being black was the tipping point that gave him the victory. of course, the, "anti-bush" folks also played a part. but as the campaign continued to move forward, the media started playing up obama's race, and how, "history" is potentially going to be made. part of it was the anti-bush sentiment, like mentioned. but a lot of people wanted to break the white-stronghold in the white house, as a sign of the entire world moving past race. ironically enough, it was that very thing that gave obama the presidency.
and with hilary clinton, people are going to want to do the same with a woman in the white house. i would bet that most women in the u.s. will vote for a woman candidate.
in the end, it's a popularity contest.
She let her husband run wild, I can't expect her to know how to put her foot down for the good of a country.
In what world was a McCain-Palin ticket a winner? Jon "Bomb, bomb, Iran" McCain and Sarah "I'm a high-functioning special needs child" Palin weren't ever getting near the White House. A ham sandwich probably would have gotten the same percentage of the vote that Obama did. No GOP candidate was going to win in '08, McCain got the nomination as a pat on the back for sucking up to Bush after what they did to him in 2000. Any benefit Obama might have gotten because of his race were offset by votes lost because of race.You see, this guy gets it.
In what world was a McCain-Palin ticket a winner? Jon "Bomb, bomb, Iran" McCain and Sarah "I'm a high-functioning special needs child" Palin weren't ever getting near the White House. A ham sandwich probably would have gotten the same percentage of the vote that Obama did. No GOP candidate was going to win in '08, McCain got the nomination as a pat on the back for sucking up to Bush after what they did to him in 2000. Any benefit Obama might have gotten because of his race were offset by votes lost because of race.
You fuckers are delusional. Obama's victory in 2012, despite losing a lot of liberal support, confirms your "math" is fucking stupid. Obama won in 2012 by more than Bush did in 2004 despite a lower voter turnout than seen in '08 or '04.
Unfortunately for you we are not delusional. Guys like IDL get it too. Our theory is correct and it will continue to be proven correct. When it all comes to fruition you will have no way out. You see that's how this works, if you make predictions based on a theory and they become true, your theory is likely correct.
Hey I'm not predicting Hillary. Too many variables to predict who the winner will be from my point of view, but that is not to say there aren't people who already know who it will be.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jeb or Ted won either. At the end of the day they all work for the same people so it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Hey I'm not predicting Hillary. Too many variables to predict who the winner will be from my point of view, but that is not to say there aren't people who already know who it will be.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jeb or Ted won either. At the end of the day they all work for the same people so it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.