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They tried that already/
If you put a pro boxer like Mayweather against a high level olympic gold medal winning wrestler (notice you don't name one) under what rules? Under wrestling rules? Wrestler wins. Under Boxing rules? Boxer wins. Under MMA unified rules? Most likely wrestler wins, we haven't been proven otherwise yet, not even close, not even remotely near by
They tried that already/
Wrestling is a much better base for MMA. Boxing isn't just fighting with your hands, it has a completely different set of rules and equipment. Between that, the smaller gloves, the threat of takedowns, the threats of kicks, and all the skill of high level boxer is completely mitigated.
You bring a high level boxer in against a high level wrestler and it'll look like Couture/Toney 9/10 times.
Randy wasn't exactly a spring chicken at the timeRead the full post fellas. If you think Toney was in his prime then you might be out of your sherdog prime and should retire
Where is this evidence? Olympic level boxing is amateur so isn't the same thing. Plus how do we know wrestling is one of the strongest bases? As I said there are guys in MMA that have competed at the highest levels of wrestling but none that have competed in the highest of boxing (that are not horribly out of their prime like Toney.)
Pro boxer at the top of his division like Mayweather vs high level olympic gold medal winning wrestler in same weight class Mayweather wins 10/10 times. We have seen the success that top wrestlers have had in UFC and MMA in general. That is because there's not enough or in fact any money in wrestling so MMA will attract guys who want to use their skills. Boxing is completely different, there is much more money at every level. Top guys that aren't huge draws can still make McGregor money. So we don't get high level stars coming here in their prime.
A lot of people think that wrestling is more effective because in general wrestling has had more success in the octagon but this is because as we know there are a lot of very high level wrestlers and no high level boxers in the UFC so there's no fair way of comparing the two. But lets face it boxing attracts much much much more elite athletes than wrestling does and has a much more global reach. We have seen a guy like Brock who was a very accomplished college wrestler come in and have a lot of success with pretty much just wrestling, athleticism and a little bit of help with BJJ and striking. If you brought in guys like Mayweather in his prime and gave him some help with takedown defense and BJJ he would be unstoppable. Same goes for any top pro boxer. Boxing is dying a slow death and MMA will continue to grow. Hopefully some day we will get to see great boxers fight in their prime in the octagon.
Agree/disagree?
I totally agree. James Toney is gonna destroy everybody...
Randy wasn't exactly a spring chicken at the time
Lol by this logic baseball is also a stronger base for mma than wrestling because baseball playera make more money so all the good baseball players go to the MLBA.
But honestly how many times have great strikers been made to look like shit because of the fear of the TD. Your theory is the athletism in boxing transfers over to mma better then wrestling, which is not the case.
Read the full post fellas. If you think Toney was in his prime then you might be out of your sherdog prime and should retire
You mean like Art Jimmerson? 29-5 as a pro boxer in his first MMA fight against Royce Gracie at 30 years old. Gracie is not a wrestler but his takedowns aren't as good so replace submissions with GnP but with better takedowns.
Randy Couture says otherwise
Read the full post fellas. If you think Toney was in his prime then you might be out of your sherdog prime and should retire
Well, we saw what happened to James Toney. Now, I'm in the camp that the UFC were assholes to put him in as his first fight against an all time great who's strength was a boxer's weakness, but it does illustrate what happens to pro boxers without proper grappling training. Same thing happens to boxers who don't know BJJ.