Crime Headlining Crime Megathread Vol 4.

[Deleted member 592570]

I know almost nothing about Swedish immigration but it's long been known that conservatives internationally have capitalized on how they calculate crime statistics to push narratives. For example, in Sweden if a rapist assaults the same woman multiple times, each incident counts, suggesting a much higher rate of rape than other countries. This was immediately tied to immigration, of course, because that's all that matters to some.

The same goes for lethal violence because Sweden includes suicides. Sweden's homicide rate is pretty low but you wouldn't know that from international reporting.

Just look at this thread, the obvious narrative is that immigrants are criminals. That's the only reason people care about crime in Sweden. Trump famously said that Mexico was sending it's rapists, despite the fact illegal immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes because they have so much more to lose and typically want to be as invisible as possible.

People care about crime in Sweden because innocent people like the lady in this story are getting killed.

 

[Cole train]

There has been talking about using the military for several years.
First it was SD now its S. ( government claims no talks about this with S)
But its always as support / logistic and guard duties, never on the streets, or out catching criminals.
Also I would have issue with 19 -20 years old conscripts running around with AK5 on the streets playing police.

If you want the Swedish news about it its here
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/...mokraterna-vill-satta-in-militaren-mot-gangen

Yea i saw it i just dont speak language

In our news it said "monitoring" which can also be understood as "patrolling" in our language.

So i played similar scenario which france had in 2015 to like 2018

 

[chardog]

having bombs go off is wild, it's only a matter of time before that becomes a tactic in america

 

[IamStryker]

It’s tough. Peruse the street coliseum and you’ll see how the CTEGod claims his victims. A single punch could lead to death when concrete is involved.

If the facts showed that it was just a fight where no one meant to cause death then involuntary man slaughter makes sense. Not assault.

 

[Tatra]

It's pretty clear that the authorities in charge of western nations have an agenda in mind and they're intent on implementing it regardless of the negative consequences on society and the citizenry. It's not an experiment in the proper sense of the word because in an experiment you examine the results and come to a conclusion, and readjust your way of doing things based on that conclusion. In this case it's the opposite, they've already decided what they want to do and all of their energy is funneled towards trying to mind-fuck you into thinking it's a good idea, propagandizing you into agreeing with their predetermined course of action. 'Diversity is our strength' rhetoric blasted 24/7 in the media, in public discourse.

If diversity was truly a strength, we wouldn't need to be constantly brainwashed to believe it's a strength. I don't need to be brainwashed to believe lifting weights will make me stronger or listening to my favourite music will make me happy. Those two things speak for themselves. And if it's such a strength, why isn't every country on the planet fighting with each other to see who can allow in the most migrants? Why isn't Japan squabbling with South Korea to see who can allow in the most Somalis, Pakistanis, Turks, Haitians, Bangladeshis etc etc? Why hasn't Israel allowed in one single Syrian refugee? Surely they should view the mass of Syrian refugees fleeing Syria as a great opportunity and encourage them to enter Israel... 'hey Europe, don't hog all the Syrians, let us have some too!'.

Please libs, explain yourselves.

 

[IamStryker]

This is a classic case of play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

It sounds like was not a curb stomping but a fight the the kid with the gun started and ended with an accidental death.

They got them on other charges which sound right.

No way assault is the right charge.

 

[Source]

Obligatory "if the races were reversed" post.

At a glance, this seems like a really lax verdict for what was done - but, it's not like I know all the details. What I do know for certain is that if the races were reversed, this would be front page news everywhere regardless of the justice of it.

It’s a sad tragedy that you can’t help but turn into race baiting. Since you opened the gate if the races were reversed you and TS would be screaming self defense.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Although to be fair, it's an invasive force that the West have been ass fucking in their home countries and still are for the past several decades if not longer, which is part of the reason they come with a massive inferiority complex and attitude.

Fair. And just another reason why we need to stop with the aggresive foreign policy.

 

[IamStryker]

It was a pellet gun. They punched him and he died hitting his head on the way down.

Unfortunate but he was looking for trouble.

Pellet gun is not a good description. It was a toy that shoots beads full of water.

 

[RoastBeast]

This is a perfect example of why people hate the media and why context matters.

The article states it's a pellet gun. When I think pellet gun, I usually think of something that looks like a real gun and shoots pellets that cause bruising and welting.

But they leave the context out because this other article says it was a SpatRball gun that looks like this and shoots gel water pellets.

An ass beating is in order no matter what but I would be perfectly okay with them getting acquitted if it was the former. Not so much the latter unless it was just a freak one punch, head hit the concrete type of thing.

 

[IamStryker]

If the races were reversed you and TS would be screaming self defense.

This is absolute nonsense. Find me anywhere on Sherdog ever doing such a thing. Self defense from what? Are you claiming the kid pulled the prank with a toy water gun and then ran up on them to hurt them?

BTW if the races were reversed there would be massive riots right now.

 

[IamStryker]

This is a perfect example of why people hate the media and why context matters.

The article states it's a pellet gun. When I think pellet gun, I usually think of something that looks like a real gun and shoots pellets that cause bruising and welting.

But they leave the context out because this other article says it was a SpatRball gun that looks like this and shoots gel water pellets.

An ass beating is in order no matter what but I would be perfectly okay with them getting acquitted if it was the former. Not so much the latter unless it was just a freak one punch, head hit the concrete type of thing.

Agree that it would be different if it was an actual pellet gun.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Although to be fair, it's an invasive force that the West have been ass fucking in their home countries and still are for the past several decades if not longer, which is part of the reason they come with a massive inferiority complex and attitude.

logic only works if the whole point of it is for the game to be as unprofitable as possible for both sides.
scenarios right now are:
1. stay in your shithole and we will help you make it less of a shithole and in time a decent place to live
2. come here and make this place a shithole too, which will make the locals despise you and you will still be living in a shithole.

 

[Fake Doctor]

It’s a sad tragedy that you can’t help but turn into race baiting. Since you opened the gate if the races were reversed you and TS would be screaming self defense.

Eh, I think you know I'm spot on and just want to deflect it to my character. I've said my bit. Everyone knows it is true. Proceed to unload your partisan preloads at your leisure.

 

[Rob Battisti]

If the facts showed that it was just a fight where no one meant to cause death then involuntary man slaughter makes sense. Not assault.

That’s about how I feel as well but it isn’t totally black and white.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

This is absolute nonsense. Find me anywhere on Sherdog ever doing such a thing. Self defense from what? Are you claiming the kid pulled the prank with a toy water gun and then ran up on them to hurt them?

BTW if the races were reversed there would be massive riots right now.

Would you let someone run up to you and squirt you with a water gun and not rough them up a bit for doing it?

 

[Scerpi]

In a sleepy suburb to the fourth biggest city in Sweden (Uppsala). Criminals planted a bomb that in tramadol induced theory would kill a rival gang member.

The problem? The criminal target had moved away quite some time ago and the house was out on the market for sale, something the other criminals didn´t bother to investigate further.

The second problem? The bomb destroyed the neighbour´s house, where a 25-year old woman was blown into pieces. She had recently graduated from the university to become a teacher. She had nothing to do with criminals at all, just a victim of dysfunctional politics over time or being in the wrong place at the wrong time as media normal spins these events. Being at home in Sweden is now the wrong place to be...

Her house after being enriched by explosives. In total, five houses were damaged.

There was also a deadly shooting in a suburb here in Stockholm called Jordbro.

Earlier last evening, there was yet another shooting. A young rapper was shot and killed. According to sources in media, he was not unknown by the police.

The shooting took place next to a soccer field where young children were practising and they witnessed the entire ordeal.

Comparing statistics between countries can be problematic and misguided but I think it is pretty fair to compare Sweden to neighbouring Nordic countries that have similar cultures and history.

Deadly shootings for 2022 (According to Expressen (a Swedish newspaper):

Sweden - 63
Norway - 4
Denmark - 4
Finland - 2

Sweden has had around 130+ bombings this year, I haven´t found any statistics from other Nordic countries but I think it is pretty safe to say that Sweden takes the first place in that category with a broad margin.

A couple of days ago, this bombing went down in Linköping.

This is not the first time that city is enriched by a bomb. In 2019, a bomb sent 20 people to the hospital and hundreds of people had to find a new place to stay.

Yesterday, the newspapers in Sweden reported that the Norwegian authorities are pleading to the international community to assist their country because Swedish gangs have begun to establish their position there also.

The figures might not stand out in an American context but please, bear in mind, Sweden was one of the safest countries in the world until the politicians and media wanted to make a demographic- and cultural experiment.

We are now enjoying that legacy with never-ending excitement, where will the next bomb go off...

EU countries love to criticize the US's "Gun Culture", with zero concept of what's really going on. Or a willful desire to live in a State of Denial.

Maybe now Sweden will start understanding that gun murders in the US doesn't come from "Gun Culture" but from entirely different type of "Culture" completely.

The type of "Culture" that US politicians will turn a blind eye to and deflect blame to the NRA and Gun supporters. "Culture" that Swedish officials have tried to downplay until it's citizens are finally deciding enough is enough.

And for @Loiosh, who refuses to do 30 seconds of Google "Research' into what's going on in Sweden.

Sweden: As migrant influx fuels gang wars and street crime, one-fifth of the population now wants the right to bear arms
Sweden, which was once considered one of the safest countries in the world, now stands at the number one position in Europe in terms of fatal shootings.
https://www.opindia.com/2023/02/one-fifth-of-swedish-people-want-right-to-bear-arms-survey/
Sjöström stated that for Sweden, the percentage of people (almost 20%) who said they would feel safer if they had access to a firearm was very high.

This is not the United States, and the fact that more than a million Swedes would feel safer if they could arm themselves represents a significant shift from the normal in Sweden, he continued.

Notably, ownership of firearms for hunting and sports shooting is common in Sweden, however, owning firearms for self-defence is not very common. As per some reports, Sweden has become the country with the highest amount of gun violence within a decade, from its earlier position at the bottom.

‘Integration of migrants has failed’
Since 2000, Sweden has witnessed a dramatic surge in gun violence. According to a report by The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention released in 2021 [PDF English Summery], the country, which was once considered one of the safest countries in the world, now stands at the number one position in Europe in terms of fatal shootings.

In April 2022, the Prime Minister of Sweden Magdalena Andersson said that the integration of immigrants has failed, and it has fuelled gang crimes in the Scandinavian country. PM Andersson had back then also announced multiple initiatives to tackle this. The announcement came after violent riots in Sweden left over 100 police officers injured.

The failure of the authorities to integrate the immigrants the country has received in recent years has led to the formation of parallel societies. Gang violence is much more prevalent in the country now compared to other European countries, data suggests.










How Peaceful Sweden Became Europe’s Gun-Murder Capital
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-peaceful-sweden-became-europes-gun-murder-capital-a5b500a7


Who would have guessed?

 

[Source]

Eh, I think you know I'm spot on and just want to deflect it to my character. I've said my bit. Everyone knows it is true. Proceed to unload your partisan preloads at your leisure.

Who’s spewing partisan preloads? I was viewing it solely from facts of the case. You’re the one that tried to make it about race not me.

 

[nostradumbass]

This is a classic case of play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

It sounds like was not a curb stomping but a fight the the kid with the gun started and ended with an accidental death.

They got them on other charges which sound right.

It was a 3 on 1 fight where they knocked him out and then stomped on him and broke his neck and left shoe imprints on his chest after he was unconscious, then stole his car so his friends couldn't take him to the hospital. Not quite a minor scuffle and an accident.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

The racial angle is really irrelevant here. He shouldn't have shot them with water and they shouldn't have stomped him to death.

One sounds like a bigger crime to me.