Crime Headlining Crime Megathread Vol. 2

[Mike]

I'm with the dad. He'll probably just get a hefty fine and probation for firing the shots. I'm fine with that.

Yeah that seems fair enough. I'm not even mad at him he was temporarily insane with rage I bet. But firing blindly after him he could have killed an innocent neighbor. Since he didn't give him a fine and a gun safety course to take. Hopefully the 20 year old ends up dead in prison. Too bad the dad wasn't able to shoot him before he got out of the house.

 

[Rygu]

Bout to get merged again

I didn't know this had been posted already, my bad.

 

[Mike]

I didn't know this had been posted already, my bad.

No worries this has been a hit topic on here the last few days.

 

[scorpipede]

It indicates he is a racist or a bullshitter when he groups most 20 year old blacks into that group. I could understand saying 1 out of 400 or 100, but most of them? Thats some bullshit racist shit

Part of me argues that he's just trolling because I prefer to think people aren't that racist or that stupid. So if that's the case I say well done.

But it's totally not the case.

 

[Mike]

Seeing that picture makes me so fucking mad every time. I bet they don't even take the kid away from that mother. If you value your boyfriend of the week over your kids, you don't deserve them.

 

[Mike]

Part of me argues that he's just trolling because I prefer to think people aren't that racist or that stupid. So if that's the case I say well done.

But it's totally not the case.

He's not trolling. That comment falls in line with other stuff I've seen him say about blacks.

 

[KnightTemplar]

You seemed to be defending the criminal.

I am on the dads side and I say he should have stopped beating the guy..........



.......after the guy stopped breathing.

Dude, how am I defending the shit-bag? I said in the first post in this thread I was #TeamDad

 

[Renard]

From a legal standpoint, a wrong being committed doesn't justify another wrong in response. There are plenty of cultures around the world who do apply the "eye for an eye" doctrine and it isn't pretty and tends to quickly degenerate into revenge ping-pong e.g. Africa. Even if you don't like it in this particular instance, it's a very healthy thing for society to have a robust legal system who punishes wrongs in an uniform manner.

 

[Greta Thunberg]

The dads side?
The laws side?
The criminals side!?!?

The video shows how a father lands in hot water with the law for beating a 20 year old he found in his 14 year old daughters room.
Police say he went too far.
And not that it matters but the dad is white Hispanic, the criminal is black, and the law is white. (I know how much race means to some of you nerds and effects which side you pick)

This nerd supports the dad.

 

[BEER]

Yeah that seems fair enough. I'm not even mad at him he was temporarily insane with rage I bet. But firing blindly after him he could have killed an innocent neighbor. Since he didn't give him a fine and a gun safety course to take. Hopefully the 20 year old ends up dead in prison. Too bad the dad wasn't able to shoot him before he got out of the house.

I think his only legal hurdle is that he didn't have the gun on him at the time he found the man in his daughter's room. Pausing, even very briefly, to get the gun from his wife probably constitutes "premeditation" in the courts.

Reminded me of a sad story from a while back. A dad and his two sons were changing a tire outside of their house. A drunk guy sped around the corner and hit the truck they were working on. Both kids died instantly, but the dad didn't get hit. He went in his house, grabbed a gun, and shot the drunk driver to death. I can't even imagine the sheer rage and agony the man went through in those few brief moments. Problem is, he was charged (and I think eventually convicted) of murder. Despite his emotional state, having the mental wherewithal to go in his house, open the safe, and grab the gun constitutes "premeditation". If he had the gun on him, he probably wouldn't have been charged at all. If he beat the driver to death, same thing.

But taking the time to go get a gun from the house is the fine line that he crossed. Sad situation all around.

 

[Mike]

I think his only legal hurdle is that he didn't have the gun on him at the time he found the man in his daughter's room. Pausing, even very briefly, to get the gun from his wife probably constitutes "premeditation" in the courts.

Reminded me of a sad story from a while back. A dad and his two sons were changing a tire outside of their house. A drunk guy sped around the corner and hit the truck they were working on. Both kids died instantly, but the dad didn't get hit. He went in his house, grabbed a gun, and shot the drunk driver to death. I can't even imagine the sheer rage and agony the man went through in those few brief moments. Problem is, he was charged (and I think eventually convicted) of murder. Despite his emotional state, having the mental wherewithal to go in his house, open the safe, and grab the gun constitutes "premeditation". If he had the gun on him, he probably wouldn't have been charged at all. If he beat the driver to death, same thing.

But taking the time to go get a gun from the house is the fine line that he crossed. Sad situation all around.

Yeah I've heard of similar situations before. I'd advocate for more rights to defend your home with lethal force, but you know people would be looking to abuse that in this hostile atmosphere.

Honestly there needs to be a special provision just for situations like this. Sex offenders can't be cured and waste everyone's time. Would have done us all a favor if dad had been able to put one right in the back of his head.

 

[Halifax]

If I caught a 20 year old in my daughters bed, I would do the same thing. Well, maybe not the gun shots. But i would beat the kid to hospitalization.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Yeah I've heard of similar situations before. I'd advocate for more rights to defend your home with lethal force, but you know people would be looking to abuse that in this hostile atmosphere.

Honestly there needs to be a special provision just for situations like this. Sex offenders can't be cured and waste everyone's time. Would have done us all a favor if dad had been able to put one right in the back of his head.

IIRC, there was a case in Texas a few years ago where a guy found out someone had sexually abused his daughter. He kidnapped the shit-bag, drove him into the woods and shot him dead. The DA said there was no point in charging him because there wasn't a jury in Texas that would convict someone for killing the man who had abused their child.

 

[Mike]

IIRC, there was a case in Texas a few years ago where a guy found out someone had sexually abused his daughter. He kidnapped the shit-bag, drove him into the woods and shot him dead. The DA said there was no point in charging him because there wasn't a jury in Texas that would convict someone for killing the man who had abused their child.

Texas is an odd place but they get some key things right.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

The dads side?
The laws side?
The criminals side!?!?

The video shows how a father lands in hot water with the law for beating a 20 year old he found in his 14 year old daughters room.
Police say he went too far.
And not that it matters but the dad is white Hispanic, the criminal is black, and the law is white. (I know how much race means to some of you nerds and effects which side you pick)

This nerd supports the dad.

The law is white?

 

[Amerikuracana]

Says the middle aged guy who got fired for hitting on a teenager last week

I didn’t get fired and I didn’t hit on her. Big difference between that and literally being on a mission to bang 13 year olds. Do whatever brain gymnastics you have to, though.

 

[Amerikuracana]

You don't get more intelligent do you? Just more emotional. It's actually impressive in a really pathetic way.

That post was all fact and zero emotion.

 

[scorpipede]

That post was all fact and zero emotion.

Nope. Not surprised you don't understand that though.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

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I'm not sure or I would have added it.

The law seems to be democrat since their protecting the criminal and against defending yourself.

You are obviously paying too much attention to party affiliation.

 

[Fatality]

I'm on the law's side in this one. Kicking the shit out of the fucker on the spot is fine but letting him get up and pursuing him while firing a gun is a step too far. Personally, he wouldn't have been in any condition to escape the bedroom if it had been me serving up the beating.

The father should lose his license to own a gun temporarily and do some community service, no more than that as punishment.