Have Izzy’s reflexes diminished?

2004 account said:
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Find a better outlet to express your ghey fantasies bro
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not my fantasy bro, I was "quoting" izzy from his twitter post
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now piss off :)
 
TheBulge said:
I didn't see that, it was more of a diminishing of his hand eye coordination. Timing and accuracy was off. Got hit with shots he didn't get hit with before and missed shots he would have landed.
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bullshit, KG landed more on him and rocked him bad multiple times, Alex did as well
 
Am I the only one who thought he looked fast and sharp? I think Izzy has a good poker face, but to me he looked very tired near the end, not sure if it was end of round 3. When is the last time he threw this much volume and fought at this pace, if ever? I was surprised when they showed the stats after the fight, don't remember Izzy ever throwing so much. He actully looked really good imo, I thought he was going to win the decision and possibly even get a tko, was starting to look like Stipe v DC with the body shots
 
Han said:
Chatting with my cousin today about the Izzy fight and both had the same opinion. Izzy is as great as he has always been but age has caught up with him and his reflexes have slowed down just enough where he’s getting tagged by punches he would normally avoid.

They do say the first thing to go with age is your reflexes / reaction time. Reminds me a little of Anderson after the weidman fight. It would not surprise me if Izzy looses a string of fights to guys who normally wouldn’t stand a chance.

That’s not to take anything away from ddp, very well rounded and a tank.
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I honestly don't think it's his reflexes.

It's his decision to run rather than deal with what happens in the pocket.

Din Thomas mentioned it during a post fight interview... He did not counter as much because he chose to move away... It's not a matter of reflexes or speed. He is still fast as lightening... He is just less willing to be hit.. Which sometimes leads to getting hit instead of being offensive.
 
His career is winding down, and I think beyond your body breaking down and training camps getting harder, that you just mentally aren't as hungry as you were getting the title the first time and setting all those defenses. I think it's why guys like Anderson Silva, Conor or Woodley lose every fight afterwards because they've climbed the mountain and now mentally they are going down.
 
He is 35 and has taken plenty of shots to the dome in his career.
 
TheOnlyGreatest said:
He's afraid to engage and follow through with combinations. Getting put down by Pereira and Strickland ruined him mentally. There were moments in the fight where DDP was very vulnerable and hurt, and the Izzy from 3-4 years ago would have gotten the finish instead of backing off and resetting.

Part of what made him great was the fact that he believed that winning was his destiny. In his fight against Gastelum, for example - he was ready to die for the W. This version of Izzy would have folded in the face of that kind of adversity. It's not so much that he declined physically but the fact that he's not even close to what he was mentally. Same thing that happened to Tony. Once you know for a fact that losing is an option - you start losing. It's over.
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You are spitting facts, but part of the reason is he is also slower with worse reflexes.

That in combination with less will, less confidence, and less fire have led to this version of himself.
 
Of course they have, and will continue to. It is the fate of all "reflex" fighters to go down this road. It is why him and fighters like Roy Jones don't stay at the top when they get older. Well, most don't either, but strength stays with you much longer, and is why power punchers and wrestlers stay at the top for longer. Most of the time...
 
Not sure his reflexes have diminished. Maybe they have, but I think he looked good for most of the fight, and gave him a slight edge going into that fourth round (based mostly on DDP's fatigue, though), altough I was a couple beers deep into the night when I watched that fight.

I think it had more to do with dealing with DDP's awkward style of trying to counter by circling while chasing Izzy as Izzy tried to exit punching range. That's usually when Izzy ducks or parries, and lands those counters himself, but DDP's bursts of pressure just didn't allow him to. That's also how DDP initiated that flurry en route to finishing Whittaker. Just deceivingly long range mixed with odd angles. He also didn't really allow Izzy to get as comfortable as he usually like to get.

Izzy hurt DDP more times than DDP hurt him, though, if I recall properly. DDP's takedowns and pressure in grappling probably also gave him second thoughts about throwing certain strikes.
 
Speed kills. Both your opponent and you when it starts to slip if your striking game is highly dependent on it (his is, so was Silva's).
 
Don't like Izzy but he was getting hit with a lot of shots he normally would have evaded. Prime Izzy would have timed one of those weird blitzes from DDP and hurt him.
 
KarateYeah said:
And then losing the way he lost to Strickland.. I think it's the same as Anderson..once that aura is gone, it takes a toll on the confidence
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I see some similarities. It could be that Adesanya's Poatan KO might be the last moment of greatness we see from him. Like Anderson when he flying kneed Bisping.
 
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