International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

Does Mandy Patinkin have a valid point?


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Iran fired dozens of missiles at Israel's Dimino nuclear reactor. All were intercepted.

I somehow doubt the Israeli's will go for a proportionate response...:oops:
So they weren't nice guys just firing at a deserted airfield

Go figure

The Islamic supremacist terrorist lovers on here tell some weird lies
 
Not sure about the last sentence. This war is just getting started and Israel are gearing up probably for an all out assault now. Iran have given the green light and woken the bear.

Sit back and wait for the carnage to begin. The response will be crazy. This ME war is only just in the beginning.
Calm down, it’s not a war yet.

They just crossed the Rubicon on to “Special Military Operations”…
 
You realize the IRA was a thing right?

I mean... just asking based on that last sentence...

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Yes that's what I was alluding to in part. You're from UK as far as I know. Yet IRA was mostly using IEDs and small arms while targeting mostly police and government forces AFAIK. How long would the British government tolerated straight up ballistic missiles launched into London and elsewhere?
Even rudimentary research, let alone diligent research on the rocket narrative leads us to only one conclusion...

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I bet some of these clowns can't wait to start drooling when the updated figures come out.

Take a stab, pimp; this is an easy one.
So it's unfair that Hamas launch shit rockets and make zero effort to protect its citizens? Hear me out here...maybe...just maybe Hamas should STOP launching rockets at Israel....because while Israel is quite good at intercepting them it's very very very expensive. If I was an Israeli I'd be pissed having to spend 50,000$ per missile having to intercept those shitty rockets.
These people will argue that slingshotting stones required air strikes and tanks.

It doesn't matter what Israel do, everything is fine, they will accept all of it without hesitation. There are no red lines in the incessant escalations, nothing is too far.

More war for my viewing pleasure please.

Again, having to spend 50,000$ per Iron Dome missile to shoot down those projectiles is insanely expensive. Why should Israelis have to pay such costs? For decades...and then have misinformed Americans, Brits, Aussies, Canadians, etc whine about how US is propping up Israel with them. ...

It's insane that it has come to this....

Iran better get ready.
 
Yes that's what I was alluding to in part. You're from UK as far as I know. Yet IRA was mostly using IEDs AFAIK. How long would the British government tolerated straight up ballistic missiles launched into London and elsewhere?

So it's unfair that Hamas launch shit rockets and make zero effort to protect its citizens? Hear me out here...maybe...just maybe Hamas should STOP launching rockets at Israel....because while Israel is quite good at intercepting them it's very very very expensive. If I was an Israeli I'd be pissed having to spend 50,000$ having to intercept those shitty rockets.


Again, having to spend 50,000$ per Iron Dome missile to shoot down those projectiles is insanely expensive. Why should Israelis have to pay such costs? For decades...and then have misinformed Americans, Brits, Aussies, Canadians, etc whine about how US is propping up Israel with them. ...

It's insane that it has come to this....

Iran better get ready.

There is not a single chance the British army would have carpet bombed Irish houses just to get an IRA guy.

No chance.
 
Yes that's what I was alluding to in part. You're from UK as far as I know. Yet IRA was mostly using IEDs and small arms while targeting mostly police and government forces AFAIK. How long would the British government tolerated straight up ballistic missiles launched into London and elsewhere?

So it's unfair that Hamas launch shit rockets and make zero effort to protect its citizens? Hear me out here...maybe...just maybe Hamas should STOP launching rockets at Israel....because while Israel is quite good at intercepting them it's very very very expensive. If I was an Israeli I'd be pissed having to spend 50,000$ per missile having to intercept those shitty rockets.


Again, having to spend 50,000$ per Iron Dome missile to shoot down those projectiles is insanely expensive. Why should Israelis have to pay such costs? For decades...and then have misinformed Americans, Brits, Aussies, Canadians, etc whine about how US is propping up Israel with them. ...

It's insane that it has come to this....

Iran better get ready.
israel doesn't pay those costs. europe & the US do.
 
There is not a single chance the British army would have carpet bombed Irish houses just to get an IRA guy.

No chance.

Maybe, maybe not. We don't know. Never say never.

UK is significantly larger and more powerful military. UK has the luxury of being an island. UK is not surrounded by hostile nations in close proximity.

A quick check shows IRA killed 1800 people in all during the "Troubles" over a 32 year period. Israel lost 2/3 of that in a span of one day and if we take these numbers as a proportion of population then it's far worse.
 
Maybe, maybe not. We don't know. Never say never.

UK is significantly larger and more powerful military. UK has the luxury of being an island. UK is not surrounded by hostile nations in close proximity.

A quick check shows IRA killed 1800 people in all during the "Troubles" over a 32 year period. Israel lost 2/3 of that in a span of one day and if we take these numbers as a proportion of population then it's far worse.

No not maybe.

It wouldn't have happened.

It's amazing the amount of restraint that gets shown to avoid killing your own kind.
 
Maybe, maybe not. We don't know. Never say never.

UK is significantly larger and more powerful military. UK has the luxury of being an island. UK is not surrounded by hostile nations in close proximity.

A quick check shows IRA killed 1800 people in all during the "Troubles" over a 32 year period. Israel lost 2/3 of that in a span of one day and if we take these numbers as a proportion of population then it's far worse.

The UK Military is at it's smallest and weakest for generations. The Army for example is the smallest it's been since the Napoleonic Wars. All three of the Royal Navy's Nuclear Subs were unable to put to sea due to mechanical problems.

And mass casualty attacks on Northern Ireland were never a possibility, even after the IRA nearly killed Thatcher herself. There are still ongoing court cases related to Bloody Sunday, which was over half a century ago, and only involved 13 dead.
 
The UK Military is at it's smallest and weakest for generations. The Army for example is the smallest it's been since the Napoleonic Wars. All three of the Royal Navy's Nuclear Subs were unable to put to sea due to mechanical problems.

Plus having slack ammo for arty for about a week and insufficient air defences (this from royal united service institute)

Dont worry french have same problem and germans have enough ammo for 2 days lol
 
No not maybe.

It wouldn't have happened.

It's amazing the amount of restraint that gets shown to avoid killing your own kind.

I think Ukraine / Russia war is proving that assertion false.

IRA exercised considerable restraint in places and people it targeted which did not force British hand in going scorched earth. If IRA started blowing up childcare facilities or churches and racking up insane casualty numbers then the response tactics would have been vastly different.

Just like had Hamas only targeted soldiers, the response would not have been nearly as heavy handed.
 
I think Ukraine / Russia war is proving that assertion false.

IRA exercised considerable restraint in places and people it targeted which did not force British hand in going scorched earth. If IRA started blowing up childcare facilities or churches and racking up insane casualty numbers then the tactics would have been vastly different.

Just like had Hamas only targeted soldiers, the response would not have been nearly as heavy handed.

The IRA killed and disappeared many, many civilians. They are actually called The Disappeared.

They killed over 500 civilians I think is the estimate.
 
Well this is about to escalate. Netanyahu seems to believe he can take on the entire region. I think this is a mistake and will backfire.

I guess popcorn ready as this starts heating up throughout the week. It’s going to get crazy asf

Fill up you gas tanks, the oil market's gonna be having shit fits with all those missiles flying around. Oil prices are already up 3-4% in the past few hours, if Iran's oil facilities get hit in retaliation we could be looking at $100/barrel oil before too long.
 
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