International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

Does Mandy Patinkin have a valid point?


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Everyone should fear Israelis. ;)


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I've deployed twice and had 3 overseas assignments with two back-to-back. I've been in the $hit. The most fearful I've ever been in my life is when I went to the Paris Airshow and strolled into the Israeli booth where they displayed their weapons systems.

When I saw those hulking Israeli agents in custom made suits with "obvious metal bulges" underneath their clothing, directly looking at US, I was like, "Bro, I'm out. I'll be outside on that bench."

I had a buddy from mountain country, U.S.A. and he just did NOT get it. Those guys were more than willing to bang, and I wasn't going to be "that guy."


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No surprise that the Israel simps have nothing to say about this. They don't care about human life, they don't see a Palestinian child as equal to an Israeli child.
You are no better than ISIS supporters, think about that, think about what kind of person you are.

If only Hamas spent all of that money they received into building fortified hospitals and not ripping up irrigation pipes to launch rockets into Israel.


If only... :(
 
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Answering questions at an “evening drinks reception” hosted by the West Hampstead and Fortune Green Conservatives in London, Kearns said: “The Foreign Office has received official legal advice that Israel has broken international humanitarian law but the government has not announced it.

“They have not said it, they haven’t stopped arms exports. They have done a few very small sanctions on Israeli settlers and everyone internationally is agreed that settlers are illegal, that they shouldn’t be doing what they’re doing, and the ways in which they have continued and the money that’s been put in.”

Kearns told the gathering that both she and Cameron believed strongly in Israel’s right to defend itself. “But the right to self-defence has a limit in law. It is not limitless,” she said, going on to suggest that Israel’s actions put its and the UK’s long-term security at risk.

“Some of the ways in which Israel is prosecuting this is making their long-term security less certain. It is making our long-term security less certain. I’m amazed that our national threat level has not gone up. And it breaks my heart because I know it could be done differently.”

It's funny what they admit behind closed doors lol.
 
The Bishop there testified that there were no Hamas in the Church and that first the IDF shot and killed a woman and then her daughter when she went to help her. That is not friendly fire, that was a targeted murder or two unarmed women. Many such cases. They even kill doctors and members of the press. This is why I say the IDF is full of evil people and is essentially a terror group.

You do know that those "doctors" and "journalists" were actually Hamas terrorists, right?
 
They have no right to protect their citizens from terrorists next door? Yeah, I think they do…..

But youre trying to say Israel should have done nothing and just sat back and allowed Hamas full freedom to do as they pleased with no restrictions……you truly believe that…….

You said Hamas AND Gaza. Bibi hasn’t said he would allow the the PA to have a state in the west bank. He has clearly said NO Palestinian state. He didn’t allow it in the 90s and won’t allow it ever. You’re asking dumb questions. This shouldnt be Israel’s right to give the Palestinian people a state


You keep pretending like if everything was all peace and good between Hamas and Israel that Israel would be ok with a Palestinian state.

They can’t legitimize Palestinian. They need the land and the need to keep pushing out the Arabs for their own expanding population.
 

Answering questions at an “evening drinks reception” hosted by the West Hampstead and Fortune Green Conservatives in London, Kearns said: “The Foreign Office has received official legal advice that Israel has broken international humanitarian law but the government has not announced it.

“They have not said it, they haven’t stopped arms exports. They have done a few very small sanctions on Israeli settlers and everyone internationally is agreed that settlers are illegal, that they shouldn’t be doing what they’re doing, and the ways in which they have continued and the money that’s been put in.”

Kearns told the gathering that both she and Cameron believed strongly in Israel’s right to defend itself. “But the right to self-defence has a limit in law. It is not limitless,” she said, going on to suggest that Israel’s actions put its and the UK’s long-term security at risk.

“Some of the ways in which Israel is prosecuting this is making their long-term security less certain. It is making our long-term security less certain. I’m amazed that our national threat level has not gone up. And it breaks my heart because I know it could be done differently.”

It's funny what they admit behind closed doors lol.
Depends on what the lawyers think Israel is breaching - a lot of ground covered in humanitarian law. It could be just the aid distribution and not the usage of the arms. There may need to be a more direct connection between the arms and the harm committed to trigger a license refusal. So, if she understood what she heard (if, she's not a lawyer), then you could have a situation where legal advice says there is a humanitarian law violation and the government still supplies arms consistent with their internal (UK) laws. I don't have time to do proper research, but here's a link to the criteria, most likely you'll be looking at criterions 2 and 3.

 
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You said Hamas AND Gaza. Bibi hasn’t said he would allow the the PA to have a state in the west bank. He has clearly said NO Palestinian state. He didn’t allow it in the 90s and won’t allow it ever. You’re asking dumb questions. This shouldnt be Israel’s right to give the Palestinian people a state


You keep pretending like if everything was all peace and good between Hamas and Israel that Israel would be ok with a Palestinian state.

They can’t legitimize Palestinian. They need the land and the need to keep pushing out the Arabs for their own expanding population.
they had NO interest in taking gaza after they unilarterally withdrew almost 2 decades ago.

yes, i said hamas and gaza. they go hand in hand in context.

again, you don't want to address the straight forward question. you never have. i'll keep asking though.
 
Say what you want about Hamas being evil shithead fuckfaces but here they are cutting prices on food donated to them for aid. Warms the heart

 
LOL @ people thinking that "Might makes right" is referring to morals and ethics. Might is just might, and the folks who have it, use it. The reason we're all sitting pretty in the west is because of might, not kindness. Nobody fucks with us, because of our collective might and what it would bring upon any nation stupid enough to launch an attack on that coalition.

Extra LOL @ bringing up Nazi's, and not realizing that the reason they're not in charge right now, is because of the might of their opponents.
Si vis pacem, para pactum
 
We are talking about Palestine. And even if Muslims killed more Christians in Palestine than Jews did it doesn't justify the IDF murdering Christians and blowing up Churches. Then we have the Jews pretending to be out allies when they kill our people.

I will refer to them as Jews then to make it more clear because I understand that not all Israelis are Jews or Jewish.
To make it more clear that you’re an out of the closet racist that believes in nonsensical Jewish conspiracies? You don’t have to clarify. We all know already
 
To make it more clear that you’re an out of the closet racist that believes in nonsensical Jewish conspiracies? You don’t have to clarify. We all know already
I don't disagree, some very dodgy posting there indeed.

Israeli's refer to as "jews", and Christians are somehow "our people" who mater more than anyone else.
 
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