International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

[Rholk]

According to Dr Maynard doctors are being killed and abducted and that there is 0 evidence of Hamas in the hospitals he worked in.

It is clear to everyone with a heart that Israel's intention is genocide. And you lot think it is justified. But I bet you wouldn't support genocide if it happened to Israelis.

If there is one thing that lost more than the Palestinian GDP because of this conflict, its the value of the word genocide.

 

[KnightTemplar]

If you say that might makes right then you are committing to that view. Which means you think Israel is right in what it is doing. Is this correct?

If so, do you apply the same standards to the Nazis and what they did to Jews? Is that also a case of might makes right?

1)Yes.

2)Again, yes. And the Allies didn't beat the Nazis and save what was left of the Holocaust's victims by being nice. We won by using millions of Russians as cannon fodder and encouraging them to rape, pillage and burn their way across Germany. That's not a figure of speech: by the time Adolf eat his gun, almost a million German women were walking bow-legged.

And that's not even including wiping whole cities like Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki off the map.

War is rather unpleasent, and victory goes to the strongest and most ruthless. That will never change.

 

[meauneau]

Of course not. I cheer for my team, you cheer for yours. My team, Israel, is winning right now. So I don't have to whine about, "morality" or, "human rights". That's for losers, like Hamas, the Palestinians and those who support them.

Crazy that people like you exist. You don't care about all human life , you only care about a group of humans because of their identity, race, religion, etc.

That's all I need to know. No point discussing with you because in your mind anything Israel does is right, even if they started to rape children you would just say might is right. Again, this doesn't make you any different from those who support groups like ISIS.

 

[KnightTemplar]

According to Dr Maynard doctors are being killed and abducted and that there is 0 evidence of Hamas in the hospitals he worked in.

It is clear to everyone with a heart that Israel's intention is genocide. And you lot think it is justified. But I bet you wouldn't support genocide if it happened to Israelis.

So far the IDF has killed, what, between 2 and 3% of Gaza's population? In six months?

One would think the Israeli's would have a stronger genocide game, given they studied under history's greatest masters of the art.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Crazy that people like you exist. You don't care about all human life , you only care about a group of humans because of their identity, race, religion, etc.

That's all I need to know. No point discussing with you because in your mind anything Israel does is right, even if they started to rape children you would just say might is right. Again, this doesn't make you any different from those who support groups like ISIS.

Tap out accepted.

Now, if only Hamas would do the same, people like you wouldn't have to whine about all the poor, dead Palestinians...

 

[meauneau]

1)Yes.

2)Again, yes. And the Allies didn't beat the Nazis and save what was left of the Holocaust's victims by being nice. We won by using millions of Russians as cannon fodder and encouraging them to rape, pillage and burn their way across Germany. That's not a figure of speech: by the time Adolf eat his gun, almost a million German women were walking bow-legged.

And that's not even including wiping whole cities like Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki off the map.

War is rather unpleasent, and victory goes to the strongest and most ruthless. That will never change.

This is very confusing. You side with the winners now, Israel -- but would you side with the winner back when it was the Nazis? If your criterion is might makes right then at one point the Nazis were right according to your reasoning.

 

[meauneau]

Tap out accepted.

Now, if only Hamas would do the same, people like you wouldn't have to whine about all the poor, dead Palestinians...

What is there to discuss with someone who thinks that it is right to kill children? You tapped out to humanity.

 

[KnightTemplar]

What is there to discuss with someone who thinks that it is right to kill children? You tapped out to humanity.

Thank you, that's brilliant! I need to get that printed on a t-shirt!

 

[meauneau]

So far the IDF has killed, what, between 2 and 3% of Gaza's population? In six months?

One would think the Israeli's would have a stronger genocide game, given they studied under history's greatest masters of the art.

Genocide doesn't have to happen in 6 months or less

Israel's actions in Gaza—encompassing killings, causing severe bodily or mental harm, deliberately imposing conditions of life aimed at physical destruction, and imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group—constitute genocidal acts under the 1948 Genocide Convention.

100 Days of Ongoing Genocide in Gaza Amid the International Community's Failure to Protect Palestinians [EN/AR] - occupied Palestinian territory

News and Press Release in Arabic on occupied Palestinian territory about Protection and Human Rights; published on 14 Jan 2024 by Al Haq, Al Mezan and 2count other organizations

reliefweb.int

I know it's meaningless to you because no matter what Israel does they are always right. But this is for the normal healthy people with a morality who are reading this.

 

[KnightTemplar]

This is very confusing. You side with the winners now, Israel -- but would you side with the winner back when it was the Nazis? If your criterion is might makes right then at one point the Nazis were right according to your reasoning.

No, I wouldn't have sided with the Nazis - although I look fabulous in a long leather greatcoat! - because I'm Team Red Sea Pedestrian. I just don't whine like a little bitch about, "human rights" etc, because I know they mean the square root of fuck all in the real world.

 

[meauneau]

Thank you, that's brilliant! I need to get that printed on a t-shirt!

You can't deny that you think it is right to kill children if it's Israel, instead you deflect with an irrelevant comment.

What would you say to a person who thought like you but was against Israel and thought it was right to kill Israeli children? Would you say that if he thinks it is right then that's up to him or would you judge him?

 

[KnightTemplar]

Genocide doesn't have to happen in 6 months or less

Israel's actions in Gaza—encompassing killings, causing severe bodily or mental harm, deliberately imposing conditions of life aimed at physical destruction, and imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group—constitute genocidal acts under the 1948 Genocide Convention.

100 Days of Ongoing Genocide in Gaza Amid the International Community's Failure to Protect Palestinians [EN/AR] - occupied Palestinian territory

News and Press Release in Arabic on occupied Palestinian territory about Protection and Human Rights; published on 14 Jan 2024 by Al Haq, Al Mezan and 2count other organizations

reliefweb.int

I know it's meaningless to you because no matter what Israel does they are always right. But this is for the normal healthy people with a morality who are reading this.

Palestinian birth rates have increased year on year since Israel took control of Gaza. Again, if this is an attempt to genocide the Palistinians, it's a piss-poor one.

Somewhere in Hell, Adolf Hitler is watching the IDF fighting Hamas, shaking his head in disgust and muttering,

"Was I just a joke to you people?"

 

[meauneau]

No, I wouldn't have sided with the Nazis - although I look fabulous in a long leather greatcoat! - because I'm Team Red Sea Pedestrian. I just don't whine like a little bitch about, "human rights" etc, because I know they mean the square root of fuck all in the real world.

But you said that might makes right. When the Nazis where mighty they were right according to you. Your logic entails support for the Nazi genocide of the Jews.

 

[KnightTemplar]

You can't deny that you think it is right to kill children if it's Israel, instead you deflect with an irrelevant comment.

What would you say to a person who thought like you but was against Israel and thought it was right to kill Israeli children? Would you say that if he thinks it is right then that's up to him or would you judge him?

Good luck. He'll need it. And so will his loved ones.

 

[meauneau]

Palestinian birth rates have increased year on year since Israel took control of Gaza. Again, if this is an attempt to genocide the Palistinians, it's a piss-poor one.

Somewhere in Hell, Adolf Hitler is watching the IDF fighting Hamas, shaking his head in disgust and muttering,

"Was I just a joke to you people?"

Do you understand what you read? It says intended to prevent birthrates within the group. Israel is committing genocide but Palestinians are having babies (don't know if what you claim is true though, nor would it matter).

 

[meauneau]

Good luck. He'll need it. And so will his loved ones.

Exactly, so you wouldn't judge them are evil or wrong.

Hypothetically speaking: If someone were to rape your daughter and you could do nothing to stop it then you'd say good luck to him and that he is right because he is mightier than you?

You already demonstrated that you are vile and have no moral compass, which means no one can trust you. But depending on how you answer this hypothetical it could further prove you cowardice or than you are very confused.

 

[KnightTemplar]

But you said that might makes right. When the Nazis where mighty they were right according to you. Your logic entails support for the Nazi genocide of the Jews.

I realise you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I will try to dumb this down for you: right and wrong are moral positions. They only have as much effect on the world as someone has the power to enforce them. Of course the Holocaust was wrong. It still happened, because the Jews were too weak to stop it. Something that informs pretty much every military and political decision made in Israel.

"Never again will the Jews allow themselves to be put on the trains".

You're living in a fantasy where morality, ethics, human rights and international law have their own intrinsic power, as though they were fundamental, like Gravity or Electromagnatism. But the real world only changes, for good or ill, when you force it to.

Hear endth the lesson. You're welcome.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Hypothetically speaking: If someone were to rape your daughter and you could do nothing to stop it then you'd say good luck to him and that he is right because he is mightier than you?

Hypothetically speaking, if someone were to kill your daughter and parade her nude corpse around to be spat upon and defiled, are you still going to claim that he is the victim?

 

[KnightTemplar]

Exactly, so you wouldn't judge them are evil or wrong.

Hypothetically speaking: If someone were to rape your daughter and you could do nothing to stop it then you'd say good luck to him and that he is right because he is mightier than you?

You already demonstrated that you are vile and have no moral compass, which means no one can trust you. But depending on how you answer this hypothetical it could further prove you cowardice or than you are very confused.

Were you deprived of oxygen as a baby? Hypothetically, if someone raped my daughter, I would hunt that person down and...well, if I say the quiet part out loud, I'd probably get banned. Suffice to say, it would make what the IDF is currently doing look gentle in comparison.

Not surprising a Hamas nut-hugger like you would bring up rape, though.

 

[meauneau]

1)Yes.

2)Again, yes. And the Allies didn't beat the Nazis and save what was left of the Holocaust's victims by being nice. We won by using millions of Russians as cannon fodder and encouraging them to rape, pillage and burn their way across Germany. That's not a figure of speech: by the time Adolf eat his gun, almost a million German women were walking bow-legged.

And that's not even including wiping whole cities like Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki off the map.

War is rather unpleasent, and victory goes to the strongest and most ruthless. That will never change.

I asked you if might makes right then you are committing to that view Israel is right in what it is doing and you answered yes.

I then asked you if you apply the same logic (if you are logically consistent) and also accept that the Nazis were right in what they did to Jews. You answered yes.

The question is what do Jews and Israelis here think of you stance? How can you have such vile views against Jews (supporting Nazis against Jews) and then also claim to be team Israel?