Crime Haiti gang kills US politician’s missionary daughter and her husband

[Mujeriego]

I never said anyone deserved to die, but i'm not a fan of people trying to convert others to their dumb religion. therefore i have very little sympathy.

93% of Haitians are Christian.

They werent trying to convert anyone.

 

[Jeffy37]

I never said anyone deserved to die, but i'm not a fan of people trying to convert others to their dumb religion. therefore i have very little sympathy.

Do you feel stupid now?

 

[Satanical Eve]

93% of Haitians are Christian.

They werent trying to convert anyone.

The essential duty of missionaries is to teach people about Jesus Christ, God and to convert them

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

Yeah, pretty much. He was doing the whole selective "look at these dump beaches in Florida, compared to these ones in Haiti" schtick in one of these threads.

He felt that black people were insulted, so he put on his cape with the big "WS" emblem on it, and proceeded to embarrass himself.

Ah, I see. This place never ceases to amaze.

 

[Mujeriego]

The essential duty of missionaries is to teach people about Jesus Christ, God and to convert them

Great. So who did they try to convert, in a Christian church in a country full of Christians?

 

[oldshadow]

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The essential duty of missionaries is to teach people about Jesus Christ, God and to convert them

Or to help Christians build up there communities. Which is what they were doing. This type of work is done by many church organizations.

So you don't know shit.

As to this, it was stupid to send or go this shit hole.

 

[Osculater]

I think Haitians are mostly Catholics

 

[Corona]

GOATi peaked when they overthrew the French. Been a shithole ever since.

 

[Satanical Eve]

Or to help Christians build up there communities. Which is what they were doing. This type of work is done by many church organizations.

So you don't know shit.

As to this, it was stupid to send or go this shit hole.

Missionaries or not they did not deserve to be murdered for what they were doing. This is why I wouldn't go to Haiti. After what happened to those two individuals I don't think any foreigners should go there.

 

[ermac88]

Missouri state representative Ben Baker’s daughter and her husband were reportedly ambushed when leaving a church

The daughter and son-in-law of a Republican politician are among three US missionaries who have been killed by gang members in Haiti as it emerged that the long-awaited deployment of an multinational security force tasked with rescuing the Caribbean country from months of bloodshed had been delayed.

Ben Baker, a Republican state representative from Missouri, announced the news of the couple’s murder on Facebook late on Thursday, writing: “My heart is broken in a thousand pieces. I’ve never felt this kind of pain.”

Baker said his daughter Natalie Lloyd and her husband, Davy – both Christian missionaries in Haiti – “were attacked by gangs this evening and were both killed. They went to Heaven together.”

Their group, Missions in Haiti Inc, said the couple and another member of the group named only as Jude had been “ambushed by a gang of 3 trucks full of guys” while leaving church and were “shot and killed” at about 9pm on Thursday. “We all are devastated,” the group posted on Facebook.

A spokesperson for the White House national security council said the Biden administration was aware of reports of the deaths of the US citizens, saying: “Our hearts go out to the families of those killed as they experience unimaginable grief.”

The killings came just hours after Joe Biden voiced optimism that Haiti’s security crisis – which began spiraling out of control in late February after a coordinated gang insurrection – could soon be solved with the arrival of a 2,500-strong Kenya-led multinational policing force.

“We’re not talking about a thousand-person army that is made up of trained [personnel],” Biden said of the Haitian gangs who have plunged the country into mayhem and forced the country’s previous prime minister, Ariel Henry, from power. “This is a crisis that is able to be dealt with.”

The first Kenyan members of that force were supposed to land in Haiti’s capital, Port-au-Prince, this week to spearhead the operation, with their arrival timed to coincide with a state visit the Kenyan president, William Ruto, is making to the US.

Speaking alongside Biden on Thursday, Ruto also voiced confidence that the US-backed policing mission could “break the back of the gangs and the criminals that have visited untold suffering” on Haiti since the start of a coordinated criminal insurrection in late February. Armed criminals would be dealt with “firmly, decisively [and] within the parameters of the law”, Ruto vowed.

But the first contingent of Kenyan officers did not arrive as planned this week, with confusion surrounding the reasons for the postponement.

One source with knowledge of the mission told Reuters the Kenyan officers were given no explanation for the last-minute delay but ordered to remain on standby. A second source said “conditions were not in place in Port-au-Prince to receive the officers”.

Other sources in Kenya’s interior ministry told the Geneva-based civil society group Global Initiative Against Transnational Organized Crime that an advance team sent by Kenya had found Haiti “ill-prepared for the deployment”.

Some observers suspect the delay could be related to security concerns over giving the heavily armed gangs advance warning of the mission’s arrival – something which might allow criminals to launch surprise attacks on incoming planes.

Diego Da Rin, a Haiti specialist from the International Crisis Group, said that if and when it arrived, the multinational force would face a huge task trying to subdue an estimated 5,000 gang members who control more than 80% of the capital.

“The gangs have never controlled so much territory in Haiti. They have expanded their armies and their arsenals and they have established strongholds in areas the police have not been able to access, sometimes for years,” he said.

In recent days, armed groups have intensified their attacks, completely or partly demolishing at least four police stations in a striking show of strength seemingly designed to coincide with the anticipated arrival of Kenyan forces.

“That’s a message and it is not a veiled message … The message is: ‘Don’t come here, because if you come … you will be treated as invaders and enemies,’” Da Rin said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/24/haiti-gangs-us-politician-daughter-killed

There's no one in town I know
You gave us some place to go
I never said thank you for that
I thought I might get one more chance

What would you think of me now?
So lucky, so strong, so proud
I never said thank you for that
Now I'll never have a chance

May angels lead you in
Hear you me, my friends
On sleepless roads the sleepless go
May angels lead you in

Thoughts and prayers

 

[Kingz]

Haiti is a shithole.

Missionaries should view Haiti as basically a Western Hemisphere’s North Sentinel Island and stay away.

It seems most learned their lesson after that one guy was killed there, yet people keep trying to save Haiti.

 

[Vampire life]

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Missouri state representative Ben Baker’s daughter and her husband were reportedly ambushed when leaving a church

The daughter and son-in-law of a Republican politician are among three US missionaries who have been killed by gang members in Haiti as it emerged that the long-awaited deployment of an multinational security force tasked with rescuing the Caribbean country from months of bloodshed had been delayed.

Ben Baker, a Republican state representative from Missouri, announced the news of the couple’s murder on Facebook late on Thursday, writing: “My heart is broken in a thousand pieces. I’ve never felt this kind of pain.”

Baker said his daughter Natalie Lloyd and her husband, Davy – both Christian missionaries in Haiti – “were attacked by gangs this evening and were both killed. They went to Heaven together.”

Their group, Missions in Haiti Inc, said the couple and another member of the group named only as Jude had been “ambushed by a gang of 3 trucks full of guys” while leaving church and were “shot and killed” at about 9pm on Thursday. “We all are devastated,” the group posted on Facebook.

A spokesperson for the White House national security council said the Biden administration was aware of reports of the deaths of the US citizens, saying: “Our hearts go out to the families of those killed as they experience unimaginable grief.”

The killings came just hours after Joe Biden voiced optimism that Haiti’s security crisis – which began spiraling out of control in late February after a coordinated gang insurrection – could soon be solved with the arrival of a 2,500-strong Kenya-led multinational policing force.

“We’re not talking about a thousand-person army that is made up of trained [personnel],” Biden said of the Haitian gangs who have plunged the country into mayhem and forced the country’s previous prime minister, Ariel Henry, from power. “This is a crisis that is able to be dealt with.”

The first Kenyan members of that force were supposed to land in Haiti’s capital, Port-au-Prince, this week to spearhead the operation, with their arrival timed to coincide with a state visit the Kenyan president, William Ruto, is making to the US.

Speaking alongside Biden on Thursday, Ruto also voiced confidence that the US-backed policing mission could “break the back of the gangs and the criminals that have visited untold suffering” on Haiti since the start of a coordinated criminal insurrection in late February. Armed criminals would be dealt with “firmly, decisively [and] within the parameters of the law”, Ruto vowed.

But the first contingent of Kenyan officers did not arrive as planned this week, with confusion surrounding the reasons for the postponement.

One source with knowledge of the mission told Reuters the Kenyan officers were given no explanation for the last-minute delay but ordered to remain on standby. A second source said “conditions were not in place in Port-au-Prince to receive the officers”.

Other sources in Kenya’s interior ministry told the Geneva-based civil society group Global Initiative Against Transnational Organized Crime that an advance team sent by Kenya had found Haiti “ill-prepared for the deployment”.

Some observers suspect the delay could be related to security concerns over giving the heavily armed gangs advance warning of the mission’s arrival – something which might allow criminals to launch surprise attacks on incoming planes.

Diego Da Rin, a Haiti specialist from the International Crisis Group, said that if and when it arrived, the multinational force would face a huge task trying to subdue an estimated 5,000 gang members who control more than 80% of the capital.

“The gangs have never controlled so much territory in Haiti. They have expanded their armies and their arsenals and they have established strongholds in areas the police have not been able to access, sometimes for years,” he said.

In recent days, armed groups have intensified their attacks, completely or partly demolishing at least four police stations in a striking show of strength seemingly designed to coincide with the anticipated arrival of Kenyan forces.

“That’s a message and it is not a veiled message … The message is: ‘Don’t come here, because if you come … you will be treated as invaders and enemies,’” Da Rin said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/24/haiti-gangs-us-politician-daughter-killed

There's no one in town I know
You gave us some place to go
I never said thank you for that
I thought I might get one more chance

What would you think of me now?
So lucky, so strong, so proud
I never said thank you for that
Now I'll never have a chance

May angels lead you in
Hear you me, my friends
On sleepless roads the sleepless go
May angels lead you in

Pushing white Jesus on oriole is disgusting

 

[Vampire life]

Haiti is a shithole.

Missionaries should view Haiti as basically a Western Hemisphere’s North Sentinel Island and stay away.

It seems most learned their lesson after that one guy was killed there, yet people keep trying to save Haiti.

You mean white people keep trying

 

[NoSmilez]

I mean this respectfully. Stop fucking with that country. Don't go there. God doesn't exist over there.

 

[Kingz]

You mean white people keep trying

Yeah, white people need to get over Haiti

 

[Hdfi]

Stop going there. When will people learn?
just get the fuck out of there and let it be.

 

[Two Crows]

Sad to see.

Obviously wealthy and in a position for an easy (easier than most, at least) life, but they walked the walk, and paid for it.

It feels rare to see anyone with actual beliefs and conviction anymore. I mean, they could have just spent their time posting about what they felt on the internet instead of risking their lives to help the poor.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Tragic...RIP.
The only silver lining is that if Ben Baker has any pull, he may be able to motivate the GOP to move on action in Haiti.... and NOT missionaries, but a peace keeping force.

That said, if you expect to go on a peace mission to Hell and hope that the light of God will protect you....just don't. There are plenty of folks that are desperate for help that reside in peaceful countries.

5000 fuckfaces are terrorizing the entire country? WTF.

Those folks need some 2nd amendment action.

 

[Hdfi]

but a peace keeping force.

OMG you really never learn.

 

[nhbbear]

These gangs need terminated with extreme prejudice