Law Gun Control: A Global Overview

It’s easy to check as long as you have a very basic level of maths. Don’t listen to your lying politicians, have a look for yourself. We have a knife problem but it still isn’t as bad as the US.

You are approximately 20% more likely to be stabbed to death in tje US than the UK, based on the respective pollutions (2022 figures)

Are you just looking at the overall knife attack stats? Because the important part to look at is how likely I'm to get stabbed by some random crazy mofo on the streets, not the overall stats. Gang crime etc. wouldn't affect me if I stay out of the wrong parts of town. It's the random attacks that are worrisome.
 
Yes. A militia is by definition composed of ordinary citizens. The part of the text that gun control advocates should be focused on isn't the militia clause, but the regulation aspect. Madison's OG draft is definitely superior to the revised final product, though.


Why yes they should at the state level. Since well regulated means well trained the states should provide lots of free gun training.
 
Are you just looking at the overall knife attack stats? Because the important part to look at is how likely I'm to get stabbed by some random crazy mofo on the streets, not the overall stats. Gang crime etc. wouldn't affect me if I stay out of the wrong parts of town. It's the random attacks that are worrisome.

Most attacks are inner city and/or gang related here! Alcohol plays it’s part as well. There is no real difference. Thankfully random knife attacks are still pretty rare.

Stabbings make up about 50% of the murders over here, that is no doubt very concerning. but if you look at the figures (taking in to account respective populations) you are still far more likely to be stabbed to death in the US.
 
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Are you just looking at the overall knife attack stats? Because the important part to look at is how likely I'm to get stabbed by some random crazy mofo on the streets, not the overall stats. Gang crime etc. wouldn't affect me if I stay out of the wrong parts of town. It's the random attacks that are worrisome.

You're not very likely at all to get randomly stabbed in the UK, that's why it's news when it happens. It's mostly gang related.
 
I just told you why.

Look, we’ve had some unprecedented things happen in my country too.
After 220 years of being a shining example to the world of how to peacefully transfer power, we had a POTUS try and hold on to power through corrupt and criminal means, and then when that failed, through violent means.

But thank God for the patriotic gun owners!

Just kidding. Most of them didn’t give a fuck or do anything, and those that did tended to support the corrupt POTUS <lol>
They did wonderful things like try and stop vote counts, some of them sat armed next to ballot drop boxes to try and harass and intimidate voters…
We have politicians right now trying to gain power specifically so they can force everyone to live under the laws of (their interpretation of) their religion, and the pro-gun Americans largely back those politicians too.

Our Constitution begins the words “We the People.” Despite a lot of gun owners saying those words, wearing t-shirts and hats with those words, and even having those words emblazoned on their vehicles, the truth is that the people they care about are themselves and their in-groups, for the most part. They sure didn’t give a fuck when politicians tried to invalidate my lawful vote in 2020 (along with more than 13 million other Americans). They sure aren’t standing up for oppressed minorities—in fact, they generally support the candidates doing the oppressing. And there’s some small faction of them that seem to threaten civil war every 5 minutes, and unfortunately if that ever happened the sheer number and types of weapons we have here would make sure it was horrifically bloody and tragic.

I understand this delusion that if you had more guns you’d have a foothold against some tyrannical government. I understand it because a lot of people here have that same delusion. But as a lifelong resident of a country with nearly 400 million guns in circulation, I can assure you that isn’t the reality.
Battisti s adressing your points. Do you insist on me doing the same?
 
Battisti s adressing your points. Do you insist on me doing the same?
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I don’t insist on you doing anything. You quoted me and asked questions. I responded to them.
 
Correct, I am speaking of physical injuries.

“I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained head injuries,” Gus Papathanasiou, union chairman, said in a statement Wednesday. “One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake, to name some of the injuries.”

“About 65 D.C. police officers also suffered injuries on Jan. 6, including several concussions from head blows from various objects, including metal poles ripped from inauguration-related scaffolding and even a pole with an American flag attached, D.C. police officials have said. Other injuries included swollen ankles and wrists, bruised arms and legs, and irritated lungs from bear and pepper spray.“

Thank you.
 
Most attacks are inner city and/or gang related here! Alcohol plays it’s part as well. There is no real difference. Thankfully random knife attacks are still pretty rare.

Stabbings make up about 50% of the murders over here, that is no doubt very concerning. but if you look at the figures (taking in to account respective populations) you are still far more likely to be stabbed to death in the US.
In Canada its something like 0.7% of gun violence (removing suicides) is done with a legal gun and by the legal gun owner, if I remember my government mandated gun safety course correctly.

Its illegal gus smuggled in from the US or legal guns stolen from legal gun owners.
 
In Canada its something like 0.7% of gun violence (removing suicides) is done with a legal gun and by the legal gun owner, if I remember my government mandated gun safety course correctly.

Its illegal gus smuggled in from the US or legal guns stolen from legal gun owners.
But if politicians focused on how unlikely we are to actually experience gun violence in the streets, how would they get people scared enough to vote for them?
 
I think the 2nd ammendment is important to Americans. Particularly in rural areas with long police response times.

I think the March on the Michigan State House, the March on Stone Mountain, and the open carry "Don't Comply" protests feeding the homeless in Dallas are case studies in the ability of firearms to keep the government in check (for better or worse).

But I think rights have limitations and come with resposibilities. Your 1st ammendment does not protect libel or screaming "fire" in a crowded theater. Your right to vote can be surrendered with a felony conviction. I think common sense guard rails can exist on the 2nd ammendment while still respecting and protecting our fundamental rights.

While I think there's a lot of room to dispute what those limitations or exceptions could be, I don't think theres a good faith argument that any limitions are incompatible with a right existing when there are clear cases to the contrary.
 
The two are not linked. I'm simply pointing out that removing guns from Britain did not remove violent crime. It simply changed the weapons used. Last night, a man had his right hand cut off with a machete in Scotland, and that's just one of many stabbings that occur every day of the week. So many young men are stabbed in London that the murders barely even make the news anymore.

It didn't even stop children being shot; a child was killed a couple of years ago in Liverpool when a hitman fired into a civilian's house that another gangster had ran into while being chased.

I dont know what you are trying to say.

Removing guns WILL not remove human propensity for violence, but it clearly reduces access to the means to EASILY kill people.

Maybe you didnt understand-

In ALL of the UK in 2023 there were 244 murders with knives

Same year in the US there were 1,630 murders with knives and 14k gun deaths in the US


Are you suggesting introducing guns into a society with 244 murder a year, will reduce that murder number?

Is that what you are attempting to communicate?
 
The Republicans ARE the nanny state for everything besides guns lmao

1) Upload your driver's license so they can track your porn usage

2) infringing upon your rights to medical treatment

3) Big gubberment handouts to big business (both sides guilty here)

4) Still fighting against Marijuana

5) Teach the Bible in public classrooms

6) Scared to use the bathroom with a Tranny

7) Trying to financially harm Disney for being too "woke" lmfao

8) Just listen to JD Vance's weird ass talk about birthrates in a recent interview lol

9) In 2021, Utah passed legislation for content filters on cell phones lol

10) Book banning lmao

We could go on for days about this

Dont teach about the countries history of race nor sex!

It weird they went from "against" big government to totalitarian nanny state when they found a demagogue
 
I dont know what you are trying to say.

Removing guns WILL not remove human propensity for violence, but it clearly reduces access to the means to EASILY kill people.

Maybe you didnt understand-

In ALL of the UK in 2023 there were 244 murders with knives
Same year in the US there were 1,630 murders with knives and 14k gun deaths in the US


Are you suggesting introducing guns into a society with 244 murder a year, will reduce that murder number?

Is that what you are attempting to communicate?

I'm saying it wouldn't make a significant difference. The vast majority of people who want to own guns would use them for lawful purposes. The criminals don't need legal firearms. Indeed, they'd prefer illegal weapons because they are more difficult to trace.
 
I dont know what you are trying to say.

Removing guns WILL not remove human propensity for violence, but it clearly reduces access to the means to EASILY kill people.

Maybe you didnt understand-

In ALL of the UK in 2023 there were 244 murders with knives
Same year in the US there were 1,630 murders with knives and 14k gun deaths in the US


Are you suggesting introducing guns into a society with 244 murder a year, will reduce that murder number?

Is that what you are attempting to communicate?
If murder rate is dominated by knives and other means, then people who have guns can protect against those types of murders, no? Murders go down and self-defense killings go up…

Or is it your opinion that there’s a lot of people waiting to murder under the right circumstances (ie when they can get access to a gun)?
 
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