Law Gun Control: A Global Overview

[Richmma80]

Ban all guns NOW! Civilians should not be allowed to own ANY guns, only military and some police guys. Can't wait for future president Kamala to lock all you gun nuts up in November

 

[aerius]

Gun control laws are bullshit. All firearms including full auto machine guns along with CCW permits should be shall issue and freely available with no restrictions to anyone without a criminal record. If I want a 40mm Bofors cannon with incendiary rounds to blow shit up on my farm, I should be able to walk over to my local gun shop and order one in.

 

[oldshadow]

No, retard, the idea is to make it harder for criminals to get guns by putting basic background checks in place, and licensing people.

Less strict gun laws have led to a crisis of mass shootings that morons like you seem committed to preventing anyone from stopping

No retard enforce the laws we have with some added teeth and that would cut gun violence drastically.

But you don't want to talk about that.

 

[DoctorTaco]

There's no demand for it dude. From polls I've seen the majority of Brits think gun control should be even tighter.

I remember watching a police procedural that took place in the UK. The cops were in a bad part of town by some high rises with people all around. One looked at the other and said “there are 11 known guns in this neighborhood. The ones who own them are rock stars”.

It blew me away as an American

 

[The Big Yin]

Totally dependent on the nation. There's never been a culture of gun ownership in the UK. Prior to 1997 you could own hand guns under permit - yet very few did over and above enthusiasts. We had an exceptionally high trust society so guns were just not seen as being needed

If by magic guns were made available in the UK, I could see it being a disaster. There sky high levels of violence happening each and every day, largely going unreported. Add easy access to firearms in there? No thanks

 

[Rob Battisti]

Shocked that @BFoe, who I like, is so anti-individual gun ownership.

 

[BFoe]

Shocked that @BFoe, who I like, is so anti-individual gun ownership.

I’m not anti-individual gun ownership. At least, I don’t consider myself to be that way. While the love of guns never grabbed me, my dad had a small gun collection and was an avid hunter in his youth and sport shooter in his old age. I have a lot of good memories going out shooting with him. My uncle is the same way. Their dad, my grandfather, used to make guns.

I have strong opinions on what the 2A is and does. In my view, the 2A doesn’t exist to ensure that you can carry a firearm randomly when you walk down the street, it doesn’t exist so that you can shoot a burglar when he crawls in your window, or what have you. That’s not its purpose.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- I dont care about people owning guns. The marjority of people will never use them anyway. As a long they dont shot animals like a bunch of weirdos. I dont care.

And if people that like guns have small penises, does this mean criminals have small penises?

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Ban all guns NOW! Civilians should not be allowed to own ANY guns, only military and some police guys. Can't wait for future president Kamala to lock all you gun nuts up in November

- You talk like its a bad thing!

 

[Err]

Canadian gun control groups are fucking retarded. They focus on banning legal guns and attacking legal gun owners rather than indigenous people smuggling guns in from the US. The same idiots will try to ban the SKS rifle yet vote for a govt that has a catch and release for gun criminals.

Be patient, you’re gonna get a government soon that will undo all the nonsense.

 

[Rob Battisti]

I’m not anti-individual gun ownership. At least, I don’t consider myself to be that way. While the love of guns never grabbed me, my dad had a small gun collection and was an avid hunter in his youth and sport shooter in his old age. I have a lot of good memories going out shooting with him. My uncle is the same way. Their dad, my grandfather, used to make guns.

I have strong opinions on what the 2A is and does. In my view, the 2A doesn’t exist to ensure that you can carry a firearm randomly when you walk down the street, it doesn’t exist so that you can shoot a burglar when he crawls in your window, or what have you. That’s not its purpose.

While I agree that it’s poorly written, and that Madison should have gotten his first language in, to say it’s only for militias is wild. If you take that line of thought, you could remove all private ownership.

 

[Poon Goon]

2A doesn’t exist to ensure that you can carry a firearm randomly when you walk down the street

With the amount of guns in circulation and being used by criminals I want to be able to protect myself against them as much as possible.

it doesn’t exist so that you can shoot a burglar when he crawls in your window

It should be universally known that if you break into another person's house you are putting your life at serious risk.

 

[Belaya Smert]

Ban all guns NOW! Civilians should not be allowed to own ANY guns, only military and some police guys. Can't wait for future president Kamala to lock all you gun nuts up in November

I was gonna buy more anyway; you don’t have to sell me.

 

[Witchhunt]

Weak attempts at trolling itt.
A little subtlety, please.

 

[BFoe]

With the amount of guns in circulation and being used by criminals I want to be able to protect myself against them as much as possible.


It should be universally known that if you break into another person's house you are putting your life at serious risk.

Absolutely. The right to defend yourself and your property is a fundamental right. I don’t disagree with that at all.

What I am saying is, that is not what the 2nd Amendment does. Fundamentally, what he 2A does—or rather, what it did historically— is prevent the federal government from disarming the populace because the states needed an armed populace to defend the state in the form of an organized militia. That’s basically it.

I think that groups like the NRA, or Federalist Society, or SCOTUS these days, have successfully intertwined the ideas in the public consciousness so well that when I say these things people automatically assume that must mean that I oppose gun ownership, or that I oppose self defense rights, and neither is true. What I oppose is the 2A being manipulated to encompass things it wasn’t meant to encompass.

 

[oldshadow]

The founding fathers believed in private gun ownership.

• James Madison
  "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country"
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• Samuel Adams
  "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms"
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• Joseph Story
  "The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic"
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• George Washington
  "A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined"
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• Thomas Jefferson
  "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"
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• Benjamin Franklin
  "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"

What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith, son-in-law of John Adams, December 20, 1787

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

 

[oldshadow]

Of course the founding fathers believed in guns for self-defense there were very little organized police then in the US and there was still crime.

 

[oldshadow]

The rest of the world doesn't have this and can do what they want.

 

[Poon Goon]

Absolutely. The right to defend yourself and your property is a fundamental right. I don’t disagree with that at all.

What I am saying is, that is not what the 2nd Amendment does. Fundamentally, what he 2A does—or rather, what it did historically— is prevent the federal government from disarming the populace because the states needed an armed populace to defend the state in the form of an organized militia. That’s basically it.

I think that groups like the NRA, or Federalist Society, or SCOTUS these days, have successfully intertwined the ideas in the public consciousness so well that when I say these things people automatically assume that must mean that I oppose gun ownership, or that I oppose self defense rights, and neither is true. What I oppose is the 2A being manipulated to encompass things it wasn’t meant to encompass.

If you don't like 2A being used for these things then what would you propose to be put in place to guarantee the rights we are talking about?

 

[oldshadow]

And just to make this clear on the 2nd amendment.