GSP and Khabib concede that Jon Jones is the GOAT

Mike I like you and I don't mean you. But I've posted here for a decade and lurked even longer before and have seen the kind of retards that post here and I don't put much stock into polls answered by these retards. We just aren't going to agree here. I'm on team drug testing should be banned and I want them all on roids

And silva also has that same problem of beating a lot of dudes that people really liked and wanted to win and people just wanted to see him lose.

The people that bring up gsp tapping to strikes is an example of the retards that post here

Fedor is God even though the only place it seemed he could win fights had no drug testing and he spent half his career taking beatings is an example of the retards that post here.

Jones is the best fighter to Date , the records don't officially have asterisks that's just a sherdog thing and people hated that guy before he ever popped or got arrested because he said he snitched on kids who got high and it just snowballed from there as he kept beating fan faves.

Big money in big sports man people are not going to go natty when we are talking about losses costing millions. That goes for other sports as well. Like baseball players all seem to have add and hockey players all know what percocet and Adderall taste like dont even get me started on the nfl. Hell even magic the gathering has people get busted on peds. When winning matters people do everything they can to win.
Yeah that's fair enough, but again in everything from mtg to the olympics when you're caught cheating this much it isn't oh well people cheat at stuff. They ban people for life and strip all their records. I don't doubt that in anything competitive, there are many people cheating that don't get caught. But you can't get caught. Because everyone isn't getting caught.

Then you end up stuck in the spot Jones is in where he has to say oh everyone cheats but I'm just dumber so I get caught more. Anyways you know people discuss this stuff forever on here. As far as goat discussion goes, he's hurt his reputation immensely. IF it was just steroids maybe they could hide behind everyone is on steroids, even though that's slandering a lot of people that passed all their tests.

But again it's not just the steroids. He also fouled more than pretty much anyone AND went out ducking. Jones fans can say what they want and peds in sports is a murky topic, but it isn't really up for debate that Jones also has all these other black marks that even the other ped cheats don't have. That's why I'll personally never see him as the best again even though I did for many years. You can't break every rule and cut every corner, duck and dodge any situation where you might be at a disadvantage and then say you're the best. Maybe if he hadn't constantly cheated his ass off every way possibly his record wouldn't look so shiny.


He certainly didn't think he could do it without cheating more than everyone else.
 
For those 2 to say that is wild considering that they are harboring and enabling a cheater instead of denouncing him
 
Yeah that's fair enough, but again in everything from mtg to the olympics when you're caught cheating this much it isn't oh well people cheat at stuff. They ban people for life and strip all their records. I don't doubt that in anything competitive, there are many people cheating that don't get caught. But you can't get caught. Because everyone isn't getting caught.

Then you end up stuck in the spot Jones is in where he has to say oh everyone cheats but I'm just dumber so I get caught more. Anyways you know people discuss this stuff forever on here. As far as goat discussion goes, he's hurt his reputation immensely. IF it was just steroids maybe they could hide behind everyone is on steroids, even though that's slandering a lot of people that passed all their tests.

But again it's not just the steroids. He also fouled more than pretty much anyone AND went out ducking. Jones fans can say what they want and peds in sports is a murky topic, but it isn't really up for debate that Jones also has all these other black marks that even the other ped cheats don't have. That's why I'll personally never see him as the best again even though I did for many years. You can't break every rule and cut every corner, duck and dodge any situation where you might be at a disadvantage and then say you're the best. Maybe if he hadn't constantly cheated his ass off every way possibly his record wouldn't look so shiny.


He certainly didn't think he could do it without cheating more than everyone else.

You gotta stop with the olympics dude it isn't the same animal as prize fighting or major sports. It's money but it's made differently. The ufc is not a sport it's an entertainment company with a competitive element. I feel the same bout the nhl and NFL. None of those companies want their stars banned and they want big replay moments.

It looks as if we finally found some form of common ground in a way though

Yes his willingness to push every rule to its breaking point and the fact that he was willing to do any God damn thing he could think of to assure that w is exactly why he's the goat. At cheating absolutely, peds yep, adapting to a fight oh yeah. Whatever it took and that is what greatness is about sometimes.
 
You gotta stop with the olympics dude it isn't the same animal as prize fighting or major sports. It's money but it's made differently. The ufc is not a sport it's an entertainment company with a competitive element. I feel the same bout the nhl and NFL. None of those companies want their stars banned and they want big replay moments.

It looks as if we finally found some form of common ground in a way though

Yes his willingness to push every rule to its breaking point and the fact that he was willing to do any God damn thing he could think of to assure that w is exactly why he's the goat. At cheating absolutely, peds yep, adapting to a fight oh yeah. Whatever it took and that is what greatness is about sometimes.
You are a stereotype of not only Jon Jones cock gobblers, but the enablers of pieces of shit all over the world.
"He's my goat because he proves he wants to win by gouging guys in the eyes and had guys inject him in the ass, also he took PEDs."
What an absolute casual fan.
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You are a stereotype of not only Jon Jones cock gobblers, but the enablers of pieces of shit all over the world.
"He's my goat because he proves he wants to win by gouging guys in the eyes and had guys inject him in the ass, also he took PEDs."
What an absolute casual fan.
<DisgustingHHH>


He's not my goat you dork he's the goat. And at this point in the sport if you are anything other than a casual you are a retard. The ufc is and has been trash for a while now.

You showed me dude.
 
For those 2 to say that is wild considering that they are harboring and enabling a cheater instead of denouncing him

Its not "wild" if you listen to their reasons. They're not just flippantly name dropping him as they have no reason or incentive to give props to Jones -theres plenty of other ATG contenders.
 
He's not my goat you dork he's the goat. And at this point in the sport if you are anything other than a casual you are a retard. The ufc is and has been trash for a while now.

You showed me dude.
Jon Jones is the greatest waste of talent the sport will ever see. Genetic gifts, incredible fight IQ, but a tainted, asterisk filled record which slowly started going off a cliff once he got off the sauce he and his brothers have been on since high school, incapable of finishing journeymen at LHW like OSP, Santos, and Reyes; while ducking his most challenging matchups that fans wanted to see, wasting everyone's time.

He is indeed The greatest of all time "what could have been?"
However, due to mental illness (he stated in an interview that he would be suicidal if he lost, which is why I'm glad he ducked at the end of the day, for Jon's safety), flagrant eye poking in every major victory during his best run, ducking of MW Chael early on/later Frank and Tom, and his multiple drug failures showing a lifelong drug cheat who just got kind of flabby off the sauce and rode the coattails of long gone glories of his pico-prime.

Yes, you are indeed a casual, I'm sorry to inform you the diagnosis is terminal without an extra half decade of watching the sport and an Ethics 101 class. Stay healthy!
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Just shows that when Jon's fan call the majority "haters" they're only projecting. When Jon retired/ducked that was the beginning of the end for Luffy.
Luffy was seriously deranged and from another planet. I remember when I said I don't think very close fights are robberies, its all subjective and so close, and he went nuts at me and wrote this huge essay with paragraph after paragraph lol, must have been 15 paragraphs+ in it

I was thinking this is not normal lol and I've got serious eye strain now lol
 
'concede', okay duffy.

gsp and khabib would be the last people on earth you could ask this question of and expect a straight answer, they are the two guys practically forbidden from naming themselves. polling all the other fighters in the ufc would accomplish something, but asking the two of them - pointless. they will name anyone other than themselves, or they risk coming off as douches.
 
'concede', okay duffy.

gsp and khabib would be the last people on earth you could ask this question of and expect a straight answer, they are the two guys practically forbidden from naming themselves. polling all the other fighters in the ufc would accomplish something, but asking the two of them - pointless. they will name anyone other than themselves, or they risk coming off as douches.
The mental gymnastics of a Jones hater is as follows “Oh those legends that are all in the running for greatest that all say it’s Jones, never mind those guys they’re like Shaolin monks forbidden to say themselves. Oh the organization says he’s greatest? Well that’s all marketing because he’s their cash cow even though not really. Those highlights that showcase the most skil, all the people he destroyed past their prime . Those legends that don’t give a shit he roided, they don’t watch the news, they’ll change their mind when they find out”

Homie you’re a fucking nutcase at this point
 
The mental gymnastics of a Jones hater is as follows “Oh those legends that are all in the running for greatest that all say it’s Jones, never mind those guys they’re like Shaolin monks forbidden to say themselves. Oh the organization says he’s greatest? Well that’s all marketing because he’s their cash cow even though not really. Those highlights that showcase the most skil, all the people he destroyed past their prime . Those legends that don’t give a shit he roided, they don’t watch the news, they’ll change their mind when they find out”

Homie you’re a fucking nutcase at this point
your posts speak for themselves dude. you're incoherent.
 
Luffy was seriously deranged and from another planet. I remember when I said I don't think very close fights are robberies, its all subjective and so close, and he went nuts at me and wrote this huge essay with paragraph after paragraph lol, must have been 15 paragraphs+ in it

I was thinking this is not normal lol and I've got serious eye strain now lol
I literally wouldn't read his posts, it was useless. Even his threads, i'd only read the titles. Lol
 
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