Elections Going forward the Democratic party can only reliably expect to dominate the black female vote and the LGBT vote

[Possum Jenkins]

That was poor wording on my end, but in essence, what I'm saying is that different cultures breed different mindsets, and that holds for generations. You may have lost Spanish language ability, but your habits and values are largely from your parents and how they raised, and that's why a group like the Jews for example start off in horrible urban poverty and are wealthy in a generation, and yet a 3rd generation Chicano grows up on welfare and joins a gang. Puerto Rican's will have American citizenship and lived in America for 4 or 5 generations, speak no Spanish, and will be on section 8.

People let in a bunch of dumb motherfuckers into their country, and are surprised when their descendants are dumb motherfuckers, and I say that as my mother has a 3rd grade education from a 3rd world country, and look at how conservative (stupid, according to people who don't agree with me) I am. The poorly educated love Trump.

Been watching too many movies, friend-o.

Here again, the research shows otherwise. By some measures, Latinos are actually more upwardly mobile than model minority Asians, even though their educational attainments are obviously much lower.

Second-generation Latinos almost double their parents' college completion rates, while Asians only improve by about 10%

Similar story with earnings:

How upwardly mobile are Hispanic children? Depends how you look at it.

Richard Reeves and Nathan Joo examine how children of Hispanic immigrants fare in the United States in terms of earnings and education compared to their parents and to other immigrant groups.

www.brookings.edu

Of course the reason for this is that Latino immigrants have a much, much lower starting point than Asian or black immigrants, so there's more room to improve. But this very low starting point also explains why there are some 3rd generation Latinos still struggling. When you start off that low, it takes longer to climb out.

Politically, it's kind of a mixed bag. Yeah, as a whole, low-education, naturalized Latino immigrants vote more Democratic than better educated, 2nd generation + Latinos. But if you break it down by education, the gains that Trump has made with both Hispanics and blacks have been mostly with the no college crowd. There's talk of the Trump base changing from very white no college, to mostly white, more multicultural... but still no college.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

calling the majority of voters mouthbreathers is a solid clue libtards just can't give up the smug obnoxiousness that got them absolutely blown the fuck out at the last elections.
good stuff. keep doing it all the way to irrelevancy. nobody likes you.

Can't call them anything else when so many base their votes on how much they like one group or the other instead of policy and proposals.

And speaking of likability, enjoy these 4 years because once Trump leaves, it's all over.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Can't call them anything else when so many base their votes on how much they like one group or the other instead of policy and proposals.

Kamala's main shtick was I am black and a woman. You have no space to talk shit.

And speaking of likability, enjoy these 4 years because once Trump leaves, it's all over.

If you couldn't beat Trump imagine how hard you tards will lose to a regular republican.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

They may have some trouble. Trump stood as the antiestablishment pick coming out of the tea party movement imo. Vance may be OK though if he does well as VP

Yeah, in 2016 a big part of his appeal was that he wasn't a career politician, he wasn't part of the political establishment, and he was gonna "drain the swamp."

Obviously there was zero talk of that in 2024 since it's clear that he's very establishment and hasn't drained anything. This time, his appeal was how his badassery would restore the economy, kick out the illegals, etc.

Vance is smart but he's hopelessly uncharismatic. He can't rile up people against scapegoats like Trump.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Kamala's main shtick was I am black and a woman. You have no space to talk shit.

WTF? No it wasn't.

Kamala's schtick was not being Trump, being "joyful," and the vague "restoring the middle class."

If you couldn't beat Trump imagine how hard you tards will lose to a regular republican.

Lol. I know you're European or something so you might now be aware but being a "regular Republican" isn't good, it's bad.

Conservative voters are sick of establishment Republicans, which is why Trump completely obliterated them in both the 2016 and 2024 primaries.

 

[jimmas99]

I don't know where you live. Democrats in office have always meant harder times for working folks. Its been that way my whole life.

I live in the rest of the world were inflation also happened it was/is a global thing you know….
Dems did a great job fighting inflation by comparisson to the rest of the workshop.

Your statement about working people is just factually wrong. If i get the time i put up som statistics for you later.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

lol you all can believe what you want.


Neither party is going away. People said the left was dead in 2016.. then the right was ‘kicked into the dust bin of history’ after 2020.. then the ‘red wave’ petered out in 2022 causing many to say the ‘right’ will never win another election..


..and here we are.


This shits a damn soap opera and you’d have to be completely dense to believe there are no more plot twists or cliffhangers on the way

 

[Fox by the Sea]

WTF? No it wasn't.

Kamala's schtick was not being Trump, being "joyful," and the vague "restoring the middle class."

lol, imagine believing this is meaningfully different from what i said.

Lol. I know you're European or something so you might now be aware but being a "regular Republican" isn't good, it's bad.

more than half of america voted for someone worse than a regular republican.

Conservative voters are sick of establishment Republicans, which is why Trump completely obliterated them in both the 2016 and 2024 primaries.

well since the libs got completly demolished in these elections, do you think they're learn their lesson, or just continue to parrot smug obnoxiousness like you were doing in this thread?

 

[UberHere]

Can't call them anything else when so many base their votes on how much they like one group or the other instead of policy and proposals.

And speaking of likability, enjoy these 4 years because once Trump leaves, it's all over.

Your policies and proposals are what fucked you more than anything else.

 

[Seano]

I live in the rest of the world were inflation also happened it was/is a global thing you know….
Dems did a great job fighting inflation by comparisson to the rest of the workshop.

Your statement about working people is just factually wrong. If i get the time i put up som statistics for you later.

Where do you live?
And honestly, save your time cherry picking some graphs and charts. People have struggled through the entire Biden admin ,who made decisions that made life harder for working folks. Tax and spend, fund proxy wars etc.

 

[Morning Star]

For now maybe. Voting patterns change. This every election is the end of this party is silly, it just takes one bad term, or even a year or two to swing things one way or the other. Dems just need to shut out some of their loudest batshit party members and stop pandering to <1% of the general populace and start trying to win back blue collar and family voters. Cat ladies, trannies, and femboys aren't going to win you National Elections.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Wasn't your main point but you're definitely hinting at it.

No I wasn't but nice try either way.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I think the disconnect here is how you're defining bigotry. Confronting illegal immigration is not bigotry. It seems most Hispanics understand this. It's only the looney left that thinks is bigoted to confront illegal immigration. Most law abiding immigrants are not buying into the fake identity politics the Marxists on the left push.

I never said that confronting illegal immigration is bigoted, in fact I strong supported the bipartisan border bill which would've done just that.,

The bigoted part is talking about how immigrants "poison the blood of the nation" or running with baseless stories about Haitians "eating cats and dogs"

 

[jimmas99]

Where do you live?
And honestly, save your time cherry picking some graphs and charts. People have struggled through the entire Biden admin ,who made decisions that made life harder for working folks. Tax and spend, fund proxy wars etc.

Yeah you don't seem like the guy that's into learning new things and will find ways to dismiss any hard data ill throw at you. Thank you for not wasting my time.

Lets come back in about 5 years and compare our predictions, my prediction.....

Financially that is....

 

[Yehudim]

So your take is that Mexicans who for Trump are bigots and misogynists?

Where did misogyny come up at any point in the conversation? Shall you bring up transsexuals unprovoked too?

 

[Cajun]

Yeah, in 2016 a big part of his appeal was that he wasn't a career politician, he wasn't part of the political establishment, and he was gonna "drain the swamp."

Obviously there was zero talk of that in 2024 since it's clear that he's very establishment and hasn't drained anything. This time, his appeal was how his badassery would restore the economy, kick out the illegals, etc.

Vance is smart but he's hopelessly uncharismatic. He can't rile up people against scapegoats like Trump.

I think because the Republican party still doesn't like Trump it's the same sentiment. Plus they liked the stuff he did the first time. Noone is quite like Trump but he can debate well and I think he will do alright.

 

[UberHere]

Going forward, who are the Republicans going to rely on? Because the entire movement is based on Trump.

We all remember 2020 when Biden beat Trump by 7 million votes and the GOP was left wondering who'll pick up the pieces. Cotton, DeSantis, and several others tried but got absolutely nowhere.

The movement is based on the personal qualities of Trump. Only he has the put-downs, the nicknames, the bravado, the wackiness that mouthbreathers love. Once he's gone, everything gets reset.

This is what a lot of liberals don’t get. The MAGA movement isn’t about Trump as much as it is about turning the cultural tide against radical far left ideology. This is something that traditional republicans failed at.

 

[UberHere]

I disagree. Trump is an anomaly. He can't run again and Trump backing someone doesn't really matter. I think once Trump is gone things go back to normal really.

The republicans are not going back to being a party primarily for Rinos and Neocons. If we’re still around in 4 years I’d be willing to bet on this.

 

[UberHere]

Did you ask them if they were racists too or did you just assume they weren't?

Of course they’re racist. Don’t you watch CNN and NBC. Trump literally held a Nazi rally at MSG and he still won!

 

[Islam Imamate]

Kamala's main shtick was I am black and a woman. You have no space to talk shit.

Was it though? It was in fact Trump talking about her race and how she's not really black or something. Kamala's campaign was fairly moderate if anything though the Democrat's brand at that point was too tarnished for a ~100 turn to the center by her campaign to work.