Media Georges St-Pierre, Jon Jones or Fedor Emelianenko - Who is the greatest MMA fighter of all-time? (The Finals)

Who is the greatest MMA fighter of all-time?


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You're not even realizing that you're digging your hole deeper and deeper. Not every Pride fighter used steroids(not your favorites in particular, what a coincidence) yet all of a sudden the concept of cheating doesn't count?

I really don't think you know what you're saying.
I don't think you know what you're saying, imagine if you were to go to court and your evidence/assertion is that such and such used an elicit substance because others in an establishment were using or that people have used said substance in the past, that wouldn't hold up in a court of law and rightfully so.



You can't just claim someone is guilty by being associated with an organization you need concrete evidence and in the case of Jones that exists where as with Fedor he has been tested multiple times and comes out clean every time so no one gives a shit about what you think, again imagine if we lived in a world where every dipshit can make life altering decisions about someone because they have a feeling or thought.
 
Fedor didn't just go into Werdum's guard and got triangled.

He went into his guard and triangled and managed to escape. Then, he went into his guard and got triangled AGAIN. This time he didn't get out.

Fedor's fight IQ was always terrible unless he didn't underestimate a striker like Schilt, Hunt, Cro Cop. He got away with it for so long because all of his opponents were one dimensional old timers from a primitive MMA era. Fedor never beat 1 great, allround MMA fighter. He was well rounded himself so if one trick didn't work, he'd go for his other trick and his opponent would have no answer. And then Strikeforce happened
By that logic then Cain is just as guilty as Fedor since he dove in head first into Werdum's guillotine choke, after being pieced up the entire fight at least Fedor knocked Werdum over and landed some shots.



As for the one-dimentional fighters in Pride that's total casual BS at its best and really it shows you know nothing, by 2000 fighters were crosstraining everything hell even earlier just watch Bas Rutten he had better striking than 95% of the fighters in 2024 lol its true sadly and he was even good at submissions and had a guard, Frank Shamrock was a fully rounded fighter in 1999 could do everything and lets take a look at Big Nog trained by the Cuban national boxing team and his jiu jitsu skill level doesn't even need to be mentioned, how about Mirko K1 level striker with the best td defense in the sport, you're talking out of your ass.



Now who is there at HW that's good Aspinall who beat 4 good fighters and I'm positive will lose in the next couple years, Blaydes who is average, Volkov who is like Kharitonov without the power, Pavlovich a one trick pony who quits under pressure and under performs in big fights the rest are laughable Tuivasa got beat by Peter Graham, Spivak no heart, Jailton couldn't submit Lewis and had every opportunity to do so and the rest I can't remember or care.
 
I don't think you know what you're saying, imagine if you were to go to court and your evidence/assertion is that such and such used an elicit substance because others in an establishment were using or that people have used said substance in the past, that wouldn't hold up in a court of law and rightfully so.



You can't just claim someone is guilty by being associated with an organization you need concrete evidence and in the case of Jones that exists where as with Fedor he has been tested multiple times and comes out clean every time so no one gives a shit about what you think, again imagine if we lived in a world where every dipshit can make life altering decisions about someone because they have a feeling or thought.

We're not in court you little runt. There's concrete evidence that Steroids were taken in Pride. Now if you're claiming your favorite sweethearts weren't taking anything then that would mean it was not an even playing field. Do you know the english language at all or did it get choked out of you by Werdum as well?

I have had this same interaction with Pride fanboys for years. They're always stuck in a corner when I bring this up because they either have to admit that their favorites were taking PED's, or they deny it which means they were "cheaters", or they will try to make you believe that their favorites were too "noble" even though they wouldn't have gotten into trouble for it. Every claim is more retarded than the other.

Why don't you do yourself a favor and just glaze your idols without this holier than thou hypocritical attitude about PED's. Pride fans are the last people on this earth who should ever pick a fight about that subject. Zero self awareness.
 
By that logic then Cain is just as guilty as Fedor since he dove in head first into Werdum's guillotine choke, after being pieced up the entire fight at least Fedor knocked Werdum over and landed some shots.



As for the one-dimentional fighters in Pride that's total casual BS at its best and really it shows you know nothing, by 2000 fighters were crosstraining everything hell even earlier just watch Bas Rutten he had better striking than 95% of the fighters in 2024 lol its true sadly and he was even good at submissions and had a guard, Frank Shamrock was a fully rounded fighter in 1999 could do everything and lets take a look at Big Nog trained by the Cuban national boxing team and his jiu jitsu skill level doesn't even need to be mentioned, how about Mirko K1 level striker with the best td defense in the sport, you're talking out of your ass.



Now who is there at HW that's good Aspinall who beat 4 good fighters and I'm positive will lose in the next couple years, Blaydes who is average, Volkov who is like Kharitonov without the power, Pavlovich a one trick pony who quits under pressure and under performs in big fights the rest are laughable Tuivasa got beat by Peter Graham, Spivak no heart, Jailton couldn't submit Lewis and had every opportunity to do so and the rest I can't remember or care.

I didn't say there weren't any well rounded fighters during Fedor's time. There were, which makes it that much worse that he never beat any.

Eventually he tried but failed. Try to keep up kid.
 
I’m surprised(and elated) that despite being retired for many years GSP is still held in this regard when fighters like Jones and Fedor have fought far more recently.
 
We're not in court you little runt. There's concrete evidence that Steroids were taken in Pride. Now if you're claiming your favorite sweethearts weren't taking anything then that would mean it was not an even playing field. Do you know the english language at all or did it get choked out of you by Werdum as well?

I have had this same interaction with Pride fanboys for years. They're always stuck in a corner when I bring this up because they either have to admit that their favorites were taking PED's, or they deny it which means they were "cheaters", or they will try to make you believe that their favorites were too "noble" even though they wouldn't have gotten into trouble for it. Every claim is more retarded than the other.

Why don't you do yourself a favor and just glaze your idols without this holier than thou hypocritical attitude about PED's. Pride fans are the last people on this earth who should ever pick a fight about that subject. Zero self awareness.
That's a pathetic weak argument, for one thing there are very serious consequences from taking steroids like growing your heart abnormally large and dying early, yes everyone is just the same and don't think a second thought about injecting such a substance and this is what the childish people on shertard believe its so easy to tell who has zero experience with these subjects.
 
I didn't say there weren't any well rounded fighters during Fedor's time. There were, which makes it that much worse that he never beat any.

Eventually he tried but failed. Try to keep up kid.

Where do you train at you little rat?
 
I didn't say there weren't any well rounded fighters during Fedor's time. There were, which makes it that much worse that he never beat any.

Eventually he tried but failed. Try to keep up kid.
He didn't beat any so Sylvia, Arlovski, Nog, Mir, Johnson, Herring etc, didn't Jones beat Gane who is just a strikers with not much of ground game and didn't he also beat past Pride fighters like Shogun, Rampage.
 
You’re a little boy who has offered nothing but the insult game and you certainly lack the wit to engage in said behavior. Your other antic is flexing your mma training like a karate forum ruffian. Son you’re a joke. Now let me get my chuckle on thinking of you thinking that was a flex or even bringing it up for any reason other than thinking it was a flex. You Sir pulled a chump ass move and now decide you’re the mature adult. Remember what I topd you son. Take it to the Trainng Forum

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See this is exactly what I'm saying. You were the one trying to flex your training. Trying to take some superior high ground in your criteria for GOAT because you "actually train".

You can't follow your own narrative let alone the topic of this thread.
 
I’m sorry I think I night have snapped. Next time I’ll take your insults and flexing with your mma training like a comment section tough guy in silence like monk. Proceed
No worries big guy. Sorry I hurt your feelings. Just remember there are millions of mma fans. Their opinions are not always going to be the same as yours but that ok. Don't let the opinions others affect your emotions.

You don't have to listen in silence. Just work on communicating your arguments more clearly and respectfully, I could barely understand what you were trying to say.
 
See this is exactly what I'm saying. You were the one trying to flex your training. Trying to take some superior high ground in your criteria for GOAT because you "actually train".

You can't follow your own narrative let alone the topic of this thread.
Sherbro I think you may be stupid I didn’t mention training a fucking time
 
No worries big guy. Sorry I hurt your feelings. Just remember there are millions of mma fans. Their opinions are not always going to be the same as yours but that ok. Don't let the opinions others affect your emotions.

You don't have to listen in silence. Just work on communicating your arguments more clearly and respectfully, I could barely understand what you were trying to say.
You can never hurt me sherbro. You get on these comments to poke out your chest of your mma training in a UFC chat. Like anyone gives a fuck. Nobody asked you. So what are you insinuating you’re going to beat me up sherbr?. Is there any reason why you are rambling like a little boy about things that don’t matter?
 
This is what you lead off with???? Guess you were just flexing though, lol.
Oh so week ago I mention form and technique is what I observe and study so this is why the personal attacks sherbro because I study form and technique and have trained. Well you should do the same. Whether you do or don’t is none of my fucking business
 
You can never hurt me sherbro. You get on these comments to poke out your chest of your mma training in a UFC chat. Like anyone gives a fuck. Nobody asked you. So what are you insinuating you’re going to beat me up sherbr?. Is there any reason why you are rambling like a little boy about things that don’t matter?

I set out reasons why I have GSP and Fedor over Jones as my GOAT.

You go on a rant telling me that you actually study martial so you know what your looking for.

I tell you I have also trained for 35 years

"Nobody asked you, stop flexing, haha classic."
 
The votes are so telling of how most on these forums go with emotions and feelings instead of facts and logic. GSP was great, easily the best WW of all time...but how can you put him ahead of Jon? I mean he only fought outside of his division once versus a one eye injured Bisping, meanwhile he ducked Silva for a solid decade almost and in the twilight of his career was known mostly for laying on people are wrestling them to boring decisions. I feel the only reason people are putting him on the top of this list is due to the hate for Jones and disrespect for Fedor the non UFC guy.

Fedor on the other hand would have been at the top of the list if he retired after his stint in Affliction as at that point he beat AA and Sylvia two guys that were named from the UFC back when it was Pride vs UFC that could walk through Fedor if they fought and well they didn't, Fedor finished both fairly fast. Fedor also fought guys far larger than him throughout his career and was easily the most exciting fighter of the three on this list by far. But due to him handing around far too long and losing to guys like Bader, Bigfoot etc....you just can't put him at the top. IMO he is a clear #3 but I get the argument for #3 as during his prime he fought everyone and beat them.

Jones...as much as people hate him is by far the #1 on this list, he beat everyone....everyone @ LHW and only looked human in 1-2 fights Gus1 and the other guy he squeaked by with a decision W...I honestly cannot think of his name atm as he fell off hard post that fight. Skill wise, fight IQ, dominance and who he beat over the years cements him as the greatest, even if you all hate him for not fighting Aspinall when you wanted, he still went up to HW after a long time off, beat Gane with ease (no one has), then beat Stipe...even if Stipe was past his prime he is still a top dog @ HW and would likely still beat everyone outside of the top 3-4. However all that said about Jones....there is still the BIG * beside his career due to the PED use...he can lie all he wants but anyone who knows anything knows this guy was taking shit.

Anyway Jones is a clear #1 regardless of your bird brained emotions making the vote for you.

1. Jon Jones
2. GSP
3. Fedor
 
Oh so week ago I mention form and technique is what I observe and study so this is why the personal attacks sherbro because I study form and technique and have trained. Well you should do the same. Whether you do or don’t is none of my fucking business
The only personal attacks wrote on your end. Go back and read you initial comments. The only comment I have made about you as a person is that you communication is terrible. That has improved but go back and try to read you first few replys. Extremely uncalled for
 
I set out reasons why I have GSP and Fedor over Jones as my GOAT.

You go on a rant telling me that you actually study martial so you know what your looking for.

I tell you I have also trained for 35 years

"Nobody asked you, stop flexing, haha classic."
I did not ask you. Me saying that was a flex on nobody I study martial arts form and technique period. You don’t tell me what I do or don’t boy I don’t flex that on a soul because personally I am not a fighter. I’m not here to fight nor teach martial arts nor proclaim a marial artist. I know what I see from years of observation and training. Whether you have 5 or 35 is none of my fucking business. You have a problem with what I said and it wasn’t a statement to belittle or attack nor a flex which kinda let’s me know you want to take it personal and personally I don’t care aboout you or your 35 years
 
The only personal attacks wrote on your end. Go back and read you initial comments. The only comment I have made about you as a person is that you communication is terrible. That has improved but go back and try to read you first few replys. Extremely uncalled for
You’re the type of guy that wants to take it personal if a person says hey my mma opinion I formed because I’m a student who observed and trained. The type of person who can’t wait to flex how you have done more. Don’t you know those 35 years don’t mean a damn thing when Stephen Segall studied longer? You should humble yourself. The trying to flex on dudes that are truly anti-flex is lame sherbro
 

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