George Soros hacked, thousands of Open Society Foundations files released online

So a billionaire that made his fortune off of speculation/finance in the capitalist system (correctly) believes capitalism and democracy are incompatible and seems contemptuous of it.

So he works to undermine the very system that got him his power and wealth. Pretty shitty way to consolidate power, IMO. Worst. Supervillain. Ever.

Yep. Many have pointed out how big of a hypocrite he is for this
 
I've never been much impressed by the guy who makes tons of money and then Uncle Toms out on what he made money on. How this doesn't make you a corrupt asshole, I remain unclear on.

It's like the guy who complained about Trump and his conscience after writing his biography. Did you give all the money back? Then STFU about your garbage 'repentance,' which is just a way of trying to retain the fruits of your corruption while simultaneously grandstanding moral purity. So many wealthy businessmen try to make up for a lifetime of exploitative behavior by buying philanthropical indulgences as they get older. It doesn't work. Martin Luther proved it. You're going to burn in hell.
 
Yep. Many have pointed out how big of a hypocrite he is for this

for the Oligarchy club, establishing a socialist control system (of the perverted type they are working on) is basically the same as 'locking in your gains'. Or, establishing a monopoly.

This sort of behavior is seen all over the place and is sometimes referred to as 'pulling up the ladder'. Once whatever group acquires power they work feverishly to secure it by undermining any resistance or competition.
 
Im not on either side of the spectrum (yet) and i haven't read the documents myself yet but doesn't it bother you slightly that someone who wasn't elected into office has as much influence as he does simply because hes rich as fark?

Bothers me like crazy, what bothers me more is people thinking it's confined to parties, and not the very foundation of our.political world.

Money is power, and always has been. How people convinced themselves Donald Trump is the fix, I'll never know. His only use would be as a grenade thrown at the system, and in that event the collateral damage would be us.

A guy with a lot of money influencing politics on every level? Billionaires "suggesting" politicians do something? Shocker.

Get back to me when the outrage is inspired by the fundamental problem, not a desire to aim it at an individual for the sake of a contest. A contest that's the very embodiment of the problem.
 
Despair! For we are the future! MWAHAHAHAHA
Ugh..some peopel are undeserving of living in a civilized society, especially when you applaud the destruction of it. But oh well...life isn't fair i guess..if it was, you would be drinking puddle water in your mud hut
 
Actually Soros' position on this is much better than the alternative. It shows he genuinely believes in what he's promoting, and isn't making an exception for Israel.

Much worse is the common spectacle of wealthy Israeli who fights ardently to break down nationalist structures in every other country, while simultaneously supporting Zionism as the most vital cause of the day.

If you are going to support ethnic nationalism, at least have the decency to support it generally, rather than as a unique privilege reserved for your group alone, whilst you attack it in every other form.

You're right, Israeli politics carry their own share of hypocrisy. I dont think he's a better alternative, however. There are always other options.
 
Ugh..some peopel are undeserving of living in a civilized society, especially when you applaud the destruction of it. But oh well...life isn't fair i guess..if it was, you would be drinking puddle water in your mud hut
That's exactly what it means when I don't think Soros is the devil incarnate. It means I want to destroy civilization. I'm coming for you next.
 
That's exactly what it means when I don't think Soros is the devil incarnate. It means I want to destroy civilization. I'm coming for you next.
No you're not..
 
That's exactly what it means when I don't think Soros is the devil incarnate. It means I want to destroy civilization. I'm coming for you next.

More jokes.

Like I said...it is OK that you are such a big Hillary shill that you "like Soros" a guy that sees the US as his biggest obstacle and has been working towards bringing it down for years.

You don;t have to think he is the devil. Liking him and what he stands for is another story though
 
More jokes.

Like I said...it is OK that you are such a big Hillary shill that you "like Soros" a guy that sees the US as his biggest obstacle and has been working towards bringing it down for years
Holy shit man, you need to go take a walk. Seriously. Breathe, drink some water, smell a flower.

If you actually believe what you are saying, you have a duty to try to end it. I mean if you truly believe he's trying to bring us to our knees and destroy our civilization, it is incumbent upon you to act. What you're talking about is that serious and sinister.
 
Holy shit man, you need to go take a walk. Seriously. Breathe, drink some water, smell a flower.

If you actually believe what you are saying, you have a duty to try to end it. I mean if you truly believe he's trying to bring us to our knees and destroy our civilization, it is incumbent upon you to act. What you're talking about is that serious and sinister.

What I believe? I am responding to what he has said and what he is working towards.
 
It's pretty simple. He just borrowed in pounds, converted to Deutschmarks, and then later paid back the loan in pounds (betting, correctly, that pounds would be worth much less relative to Deutschmarks later). So when the GBP fell relative to the Deutschmark, he made that much in profit (minus transaction fees and interest--though we're talking about a really short turnaround here). It's just like shorting a stock (that is, you borrow the stock, convert to dollars--i.e., sell it--and then later repay the stock--i.e., buy it again and give it back).

Do you think Soros' path to riches have improved other people's lives? Like a person could point to a PC or Amazon.com and credit Gates and Bezos for improving people's lives.
 
Bothers me like crazy, what bothers me more is people thinking it's confined to parties, and not the very foundation of our.political world.

Money is power, and always has been. How people convinced themselves Donald Trump is the fix, I'll never know. His only use would be as a grenade thrown at the system, and in that event the collateral damage would be us.

A guy with a lot of money influencing politics on every level? Billionaires "suggesting" politicians do something? Shocker.

Get back to me when the outrage is inspired by the fundamental problem, not a desire to aim it at an individual for the sake of a contest. A contest that's the very embodiment of the problem.

As bad as Trump may or may not be...you really think he would be as bad as a Soros puppet that is actively working towards bringing down the US (or obstacle to Soros goals as he calls it)
 
Do you think Soros' path to riches have improved other people's lives? Like a person could point to a PC or Amazon.com and credit Gates and Bezos for improving people's lives.

I don't think so. I don't think Gates' has either, really. But both Gates and Soros have done a lot with their money to directly improve the lives of others.
 
for the Oligarchy club, establishing a socialist control system (of the perverted type they are working on) is basically the same as 'locking in your gains'. Or, establishing a monopoly.

This sort of behavior is seen all over the place and is sometimes referred to as 'pulling up the ladder'. Once whatever group acquires power they work feverishly to secure it by undermining any resistance or competition.

It is a beauty to watch it really is.
 
Bothers me like crazy, what bothers me more is people thinking it's confined to parties, and not the very foundation of our.political world.

Money is power, and always has been. How people convinced themselves Donald Trump is the fix, I'll never know. His only use would be as a grenade thrown at the system, and in that event the collateral damage would be us.

A guy with a lot of money influencing politics on every level? Billionaires "suggesting" politicians do something? Shocker.

Get back to me when the outrage is inspired by the fundamental problem, not a desire to aim it at an individual for the sake of a contest. A contest that's the very embodiment of the problem.

You said it perfectly. He is a grenade.

Trump won't be able to mend the broken system, and will probably find a way to use it to his own benefit like every politician has at some point.

But, it is a grenade that needs to be thrown at the moment. The fate of the Supreme Court is going to be decided this election. It will determine whether the constitution follows this new globalist agenda in years to come, or remain true to its roots. If we don't throw that grenade, we will wish we did when it's too late to do anything about it.
 
Is there anything about Hillary you like? Like some bill she will help get passed, or some reform?
I like that she isn't Donald Trump. That's about it, but it's some real low-hanging fruit.
 
Also

Just a few days after Barack Obama was elected President, George Soros stated: “I think we need a large stimulus package which will provide funds for state and local government to maintain their budgets¯because they are not allowed by the constitution to run a deficit. For such a program to be successful, the federal government would need to provide hundreds of billions of dollars. In addition, another infrastructure program is necessary. In total, the cost would be in the 300 to 600 billion-dollar range....”31

Soon thereafter, as one of the first priorities of his presidency, Obama pressured Congress to pass a monumental $787 billion economic-stimulus bill whose text was 1,071 pages long¯and which few, if any, legislators read before voting on it. Obama stressed the urgency of passing this bill at the earliest possible moment, so as to forestall any further harm to the U.S. economy. Notably, the legislation repealed numerous essentials of the 1996 welfare-reform bill against which George Soros had so strongly rebelled.32 According to a Heritage Foundation report, 32 percent of the new stimulus bill—or an average of $6,700 in “new means-tested welfare spending” for every poor person in the U.S.—was earmarked for social-welfare programs.33 Such unprecedented levels of spending did not at all trouble Soros, who said: “At times of recession, running a budget deficit is highly desirable.”34 In December 2009, Obama concurred again—outlining a set of new multibillion-dollar stimulus and jobs proposals while explaining that America must continue to “spend our way out of this recession.”35

You don't seem to understand what I'm saying. Soros, Obama, and many Dems follow the same political ideology. If Soros was pulling strings, he wouldn't be making public statements of what he wants, he would do it behind the scenes.

There have been plenty of Republicans that called for immigration reform before Trump. Does that mean they control Trump?
 
As bad as Trump may or may not be...you really think he would be as bad as a Soros puppet that is actively working towards bringing down the US (or obstacle to Soros goals as he calls it)

Do you support getting money out of politics? Or do you, like virtually all Republicans, think money is speech?
 

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