War Wagon Gane is going to shock the world.

[sdpdude9]

I really do not have any idea what you are talking about. Disagreeing the division would be weaker is just my opinion, A perspective that I simply dont understand, Who is the champion has little to no baring on how strong the division is.


no i am not taking sublte jabs at Aspinall, Gane has been fantastic in most of his ufc fights with his only real blunder being the jones fight. Im not saying tom is bad, but I have more question about tom than I do about Gane.

everything else is in your head. Gane has 2 losses. One of them razor close, the other very bad. I've acknowledged this.

I think you’re arguing with so many people you can’t keep to straight.

Me: The division would be weaker

You: I disagree.

Me: Yeah it would, weird you think it wouldn’t.

You: No idea where you got the idea I thought that.

Me: Because of all these reasons.

You: No idea what you’re talking about.

 

[SuperAlly]

Tom literally lands more than three times the number of significant strikes per minute that either Ngannou or Lewis do, with much, much better accuracy. Anyone implying that Tom is a similar striker to Ngannou has never watched MMA even if they happen to have been present when and where a fight was on TV or actually happening. It's no different than saying that Fabricio Werdum and Harry Potter show similar jiu-jitsu skills in the cage.

Love the analogy

 

[SuperAlly]

I think you’re arguing with so many people you can’t keep to straight.

Me: The division wouldn’t be weaker

You: I disagree.

Me: Yeah it would, weird you think it wouldn’t.

You: No idea where you got the idea I thought that.

Me: Because of all these reasons.

You: No idea what you’re talking about.

Sometimes just say " you are all wrong because I love Jon Jones"

I disagree, but at least we are all honest about our view points

Tom isn't the messiah
Jon is a very naughty boy though
Gane does suck at grappling but doesn't necessarily suck at MMA (people like Pereira and Khabib have shown being 11/10 in one facet can take you to the very top)

But we also don't have to pretend that Gane isn't incredibly one dimensional, Jon didn't duck Tom and Tom has so many more ways to win that although this could be Gane's 1 in 100 (like Serra v GSP or Conor v Aldo which is probably 1 in 10) the smart money is on Tom by KO, TKO, decision, GNP, sub, club n sub etc etc

 

[sdpdude9]

Sometimes just say " you are all wrong because I love Jon Jones"

I disagree, but at least we are all honest about our view points

Tom isn't the messiah
Jon is a very naughty boy though
Gane does suck at grappling but doesn't necessarily suck at MMA (people like Pereira and Khabib have shown being 11/10 in one facet can take you to the very top)

But we also don't have to pretend that Gane isn't incredibly one dimensional, Jon didn't duck Tom and Tom has so many more ways to win that although this could be Gane's 1 in 100 (like Serra v GSP or Conor v Aldo which is probably 1 in 10) the smart money is on Tom by KO, TKO, decision, GNP, sub, club n sub etc etc

The thing is, I wasn’t arguing if Gane is good or not. I wasn’t arguing if Aspinall is good or not. I wasn’t arguing who would win between the two.

I was merely arguing that having a champion that didn’t lose to the last two would have the appearance of a stronger champion than a guy that did. Thus the division as a whole would appear stronger rather than be operating in the shadow of guys no longer around. This makes the division seem more legitimate. I thought it was a pretty uncontroversial take.

 

[FreedomCricket]

FFS. This thread. Gane is gonna be 0-2 in his last two title fights with a combined fight time of less than 5 minutes.

 

[contrail]

Gane absolutely fucking sucks, and he's going to lose badly.

He may lose but that's an absolutely laughable take. Gane is one of the most mobile, defensively-sound HW's we've ever seen lol

 

[JBJ was here]

Gane is one of the most mobile, defensively-sound HW's we've ever seen

Gane was one of the most mobile HW's we've seen. Right now we have no idea how well he's recovered from totally fucking up his foot.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

Aspinall’s a human highlight reel, but Gane’s slick footwork and technical game might just steal the show.
Picture Gane dancing around Ngannou’s bombs at UFC 270, landing crisp counters and kicks over five rounds—his heavyweight ballet could make Aspinall chase and test that unproven gas tank.

Tom’s has quick KOs over Pavlovich and Blaydes, plus a slick sub on Volkov , but he’s faced no one with Gane’s finesse. Gane was outstriking Volkov 146-106 and TKO’ing Lewis with surgical precision.

Aspinall’s never seen round 3 in 18 fights , while Gane’s gone 25 minutes against Ngannou and Volkov—can Tom keep up if Gane drags him to deep waters?

Seriously, if Gane avoids the early storm, he might outpoint or even finish a gassed Aspinall.

48-47 Gane, you heard it here first folks.

That would make Jon Jones look great.

 

[contrail]

Gane was one of the most mobile HW's we've seen. Right now we have no idea how well he's recovered from totally fucking up his foot.

With that kind of athleticism, relative youth on his side, and access to the kind of rehab he has, I'd imagine he'll be just fine. He's conservative in his approach to this game - can't imagine him taking a fight with someone as dangerous as Tom unless he's confident in the recovery. But yes, we will see.

 

[SuperAlly]

The thing is, I wasn’t arguing if Gane is good or not. I wasn’t arguing if Aspinall is good or not. I wasn’t arguing who would win between the two.

I was merely arguing that having a champion that didn’t lose to the last two would have the appearance of a stronger champion than a guy that did. Thus the division as a whole would appear stronger rather than be operating in the shadow of guys no longer around. This makes the division seem more legitimate. I thought it was a pretty uncontroversial take.

But not when your entire MMA view point is "but I love Jon Jones!"

 

[JBJ was here]

With that kind of athleticism, relative youth on his side, and access to the kind of rehab he has, I'd imagine he'll be just fine. He's conservative in his approach to this game - can't imagine him taking a fight with someone as dangerous as Tom unless he's confident in the recovery. But yes, we will see.

Gane is 35, which isn't young for professional athlete injury recovery. My big concern is that while we saw x-rays showing a shattered big toe, I haven't found any information about damage to the ball joint at the end of that toe or what kind of surgery was required to repair the toe. That kind of injury can easily lead to a degenerative joint, bone spurs at the joint, fusion surgery at the joint, or any number of other issues that could limit mobility directly or, through pain, indirectly (front kicks and pivoting with the injured foot, both key for Gane, could also be impaired due to a problematic ball joint). It also could require the kind of adjustments to maintain mobility that you can't properly make until you've actually fought post-injury.

I'm sure Gane had a great surgeon and top-notch PT, but even a small difference in mobility or kicking ability could materially degrade his fighting, and even if Gane's at 100%, Aspinall is a terrible matchup for him.

 

[SuperAlly]

He may lose but that's an absolutely laughable take. Gane is one of the most mobile, defensively-sound HW's we've ever seen lol

Tai Tuivasa says hi

He isn't defensively sound, he's physically quicker than nearly every other HW

That's different

Tom is also quicker than nearly every other heavyweight

Let's see.

Gane isn't defensively sound

 

[SuperAlly]

With that kind of athleticism, relative youth on his side, and access to the kind of rehab he has, I'd imagine he'll be just fine. He's conservative in his approach to this game - can't imagine him taking a fight with someone as dangerous as Tom unless he's confident in the recovery. But yes, we will see.

Why do people keep pretending 35 year old Cyril Gane is a relative youth?

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Why do people keep pretending 35 year old Cyril Gane is a relative youth?

Snappy dresser

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Aspinall would have to have a Michael Chandler level game plan to lose this fight and even then, he probably still wins by however he wants

Gane has pillow fists and zero grappling. When a guys path to win is to not get knocked out or get taken down, hoping the other guy gasses, you do not have a good chance to win.

Gane is so, so overrated. Tuivasa found the chin and Aspinall will too

 

[JBJ was here]

Why do people keep pretending 35 year old Cyril Gane is a relative youth?

Largely because he's only been fighting MMA for seven years.

 

[jeskola]

Picture Gane dancing around Ngannou’s bombs at UFC 270, landing crisp counters and kicks over five rounds.

You mean the one he was easily and repeatedly taken down in and controlled for half the fight, and lost a clear decision?

Also would a close decision "shock the world"? I think he would have to dominate bell-to-bell or finish Tom in emphatic fashion to warrant that description.

 

[treelo]

He may lose but that's an absolutely laughable take. Gane is one of the most mobile, defensively-sound HW's we've ever seen lol

well he doesnt like to engage, this is correct

he is a safet first fighter, and his style is dreadful to watch, constantly on the backfoot looking to counter and if he cant, loses in dreadful fashion

not sure how the fight Aspinall will go, but he reminds me a little bit of UFC Overeem, like someone needs to light a fire in his belly, so much talent but happy to sit back and wait before he does anything

 

[Ibm]

Its only an upset since Aspinall is the champ, Gane is a way better technical striker. Tom just has a puncher's chance.

 

[93confirmed]

Tom KO's him in the 1st.