Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[Slobodan]

I'm getting the 9800X3D

 

[My Spot]

I love techpowerup but they still refuse to put the 7600X3D in their benchmarks.

 

[Madmick]

I love techpowerup but they still refuse to put the 7600X3D in their benchmarks.

Just came out last month. They haven't reviewed it. They never reviewed the 5600X3D, either.

 

[jefferz]

I've had a really good experience with Solidgms Warranty service so far. It's been different, in a good way.

On the 19th, a weekend, I filled out the RMA form.
They accepted the RMA on the 21rst, a Monday.
The sent me a prepaid Fedex label on the 22nd.
On the 25th, they sent me an email about how I hadn't used the prepaid shipping label. I told them it would be awhile before I could use the prepaid since you have to drop it off at a fedex location, and there wasn't one near me.
Fedex is coming to pick up the package at my house on Monday.

 

[My Spot]

I'm getting the 9800X3D

$500 MSRP looms (the 7800X3D is up to $450 even at MC right now).

 

[jefferz]

Oh snap

 

[Madmick]

I'm getting the 9800X3D

Spec sheet. Looks like it drops in a little over a week (Nov-7):

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Comes with 120W TDP, 5.20 GHz Boost, All Specs Leaked

Specifications of the upcoming AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor were leaked to the web by a Geizhals listing. The chip comes with a processor base frequency of 4.70 GHz, and a maximum boost frequency of 5.20 GHz. The base frequency of 4.70 GHz is a significant increase from the 4.20 GHz of the...

www.techpowerup.com

Specifications of the upcoming AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor were leaked to the web by a Geizhals listing. The chip comes with a processor base frequency of 4.70 GHz, and a maximum boost frequency of 5.20 GHz. The base frequency of 4.70 GHz is a significant increase from the 4.20 GHz of the current 7800X3D, while the maximum boost frequency has moved up a couple of notches from the 5.05 GHz of the 7800X3D. The TDP of the processor is set at 120 W, same as the 7800X3D, and higher than the 105 W revised-spec cTDP of the non-X3D Ryzen 7 9700X.

The specs sheet also confirms that the 3D V-cache size is unchanged generationally. The stacked 3D V-cache die adds 64 MB to the on-die 32 MB L3 cache, which is exposed to software as a 96 MB contiguously addressable L3 cache. The per-core L2 cache size remains 1 MB per core. The biggest contributor to generational gaming performance increases will rest on the increase in frequencies, the new "Zen 5" microarchitecture and any IPC improvements on offer, plus L3 cache performance improvements AMD introduced with "Zen 5." We recently reported a spectacular theory that AMD has designed the 9800X3D such that the stacked 3D V-cache is positioned below the 8-core CPU complex die chiplet, and not above it, which should significantly improve thermals, and clock speeds.

 

[Slobodan]

Spec sheet. Looks like it drops in a little over a week (Nov-7):

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Comes with 120W TDP, 5.20 GHz Boost, All Specs Leaked

Specifications of the upcoming AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor were leaked to the web by a Geizhals listing. The chip comes with a processor base frequency of 4.70 GHz, and a maximum boost frequency of 5.20 GHz. The base frequency of 4.70 GHz is a significant increase from the 4.20 GHz of the...

www.techpowerup.com

I might wait until the AsRock x870E Nova Wifi is back in stock, that's the one I decided on after the whole fuckery with lane sharing on the ProArt. It's just sold out everywhere ATM

 

[jefferz]

The Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 Vision is on Amazon for $34. I'm tempted for that price.

 

[My Spot]

Microcenter here FINALLY carries Thermalright products. I asked someone working there awhile back why they didn't and I was told, "well if we don't carry them then they're probably junk" before trying to sale me an NHD15.

 

[KaNesDeath]

JayzTwoCents figured out how to get the 285K to run 1:1 with the 7800X3D in gaming:

 

[JBSchroeds]

JayzTwoCents figured out how to get the 285K to run 1:1 with the 7800X3D in gaming:

But only when overclocked and with more expensive memory and only in specific games. Not to mention the implication that the 9800X3D is about to kick its ass even with the OC+memory. Hopefully people who got these chips can get the most out of their purchase, but hard to see how this release still isn't an L for Intel on the gaming front.

 

[Slobodan]

But only when overclocked and with more expensive memory and only in specific games. Not to mention the implication that the 9800X3D is about to kick its ass even with the OC+memory. Hopefully people who got these chips can get the most out of their purchase, but hard to see how this release still isn't an L for Intel on the gaming front.

Jay himself mentions the 9800X3D in the time stamp. Says all of the charts shown are about to look "very small"

 

[jefferz]

Microcenter here FINALLY carries Thermalright products. I asked someone working there awhile back why they didn't and I was told, "well if we don't carry them then they're probably junk" before trying to sale me an NHD15.

The fans on Thermalright products aren’t far off from junk.
They’re really cheap fans, but the price reflects that, and that’s okay. They do what they need to at the price point.

 

[My Spot]

The fans on Thermalright products aren’t far off from junk.
They’re really cheap fans, but the price reflects that, and that’s okay. They do what they need to at the price point.

NHD15 performance at 1/3 of the price is good enough for me.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Microcenter here FINALLY carries Thermalright products. I asked someone working there awhile back why they didn't and I was told, "well if we don't carry them then they're probably junk" before trying to sale me an NHD15.

From my understanding Microcenter has high employee turnover rate. Plus their sales associates work off commission. Its a great store. You just experienced one employee not knowing the answer then acting entitled.

 

[My Spot]

From my understanding Microcenter has high employee turnover rate. Plus their sales associates work off commission. Its a great store. You just experienced one employee not knowing the answer then acting entitled.

It's a great store but you can't look at anything without getting swarmed by employees holding clipboards. Reminds me of hhgregg.

 

[Madmick]

JayzTwoCents figured out how to get the 285K to run 1:1 with the 7800X3D in gaming:

Let me make sure I have the rundown.

• Head-to-head a $589 CPU versus a CPU that has been selling for $360-$400 for the past six months (with multiple sales reaching as low as $300 during the past year)
  
  
• Pair the more expensive CPU with new absurdly expensive CUDIMM RAM: Newegg's CUDIMM 8400+ 2x24GB kits are all listed between $360-$400. Meanwhile, you can grab 2x16GB DDR5-6000 RAM with a low latency for ~$75. So we're talking about a ~$300 markup, here.
  
  
• Except, uh oh, Jay couldn't even get the G. Skill to boot on the most expensive motherboard ASUS makes, the one that would obviously get top priority BIOS support as the flagship, so he had to use the Kingston Fury Renegade sticks, further limiting your RAM options, and likely forcing you to buy a more expensive set of RAM than the cheapest available just so it runs. Apparently there is no QVL list at all. So have fun playing the uh-oh-my-RAM-didn't-work-so-let-me-return-it-to-buy-a-new-kit-to-try lottery for the next several months while they bring the platform up to speed. Cross those fingers. Sounds fun.
  
  
• Void the most attractive thing about the Intel CPU by ruining its stellar power efficiency and low temps with aggressive manual overclocking. Cross those fingers again you don't disrupt the system's stability while running games. Yay crashes.
  
  
• Still finish the runner-up in pretty much everything except video editing and synthetic benchmarks.

 

[KaNesDeath]

It's a great store but you can't look at anything without getting swarmed by employees holding clipboards. Reminds me of hhgregg.

Probably a location thing. One near me services two counties with a 8 million population. So its always packed with people. Floor staff are always aiding someone.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Void the most attractive thing about the Intel CPU by ruining its stellar power efficiency and low temps with aggressive manual overclocking. Cross those fingers again you don't disrupt the system's stability while running games. Yay crashes.

GN just announced that the 9800X3D will be the first X3D chip to allow overclocking.