Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[Madmick]

GN just announced that the 9800X3D will be the first X3D chip to allow overclocking.

Okay. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

The Ryzen 7 7800X3D (released Apr-6-2023) at stock has better gaming performance than the Core Ultra 9 285K (released Oct-24-2024) even when the latter is overclocked and paired with exorbitantly expensive RAM.

So I'm sure that overclocking will expand an already even more generous lead for the 9800X3D in gaming over the 285K for anyone who wants it. However, that won't be necessary.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Okay. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Pc gaming is inherently expensive. Especially pertaining to newer technology hardware. What your missing is the path to gaming performance increase with down the line CPU launches and as newer hardware technologies become integrated/standardized.

Proper question is will the 9800X3D overclocking ability show any of this.

 

[Madmick]

Pc gaming is inherently expensive.

Okay. How is this relevant? Why would someone spend mountains more money for inferior performance with higher power consumption, hotter temps, greater stability concerns, and the potential hassle of returning products due to booting issues?

Especially pertaining to newer technology hardware. What your missing is the path to gaming performance increase with down the line CPU launches and as newer hardware technologies become integrated/standardized.

I'm not missing anything. You're introducing an unrelated speculation (I might add) about down-the-line potential for improvement to Intel's performance with future CPU releases based on the new architectural design. We weren't discussing that. We were discussing Jay's video about the 285K, which is a CPU out right now, versus the 7800X3D, remember?

The only silver lining from Jay's video is that gaming performance actually scales well with higher (CUDIMM) RAM speeds on Intel. Great. But 8400 MHz still doesn't even equalize it with the 1 1/2 year old 7800X3D at stock in games. And the RAM market is currently in a place where the value sweet spot with DDR5 is 5600ZMHz-6000MHz. So it will be years before 8400 RAM is a reasonable purchase, and also before there is significantly faster RAM, if the 285K will even be stable at those speeds, to possibly push the 285K up to a position of legitimate parity with the 7800X3D. By that time it will be too late to matter.

Proper question is will the 9800X3D overclocking ability show any of this.

Will the 9800X3D overclocking show what? It is going to be better than the 7800X3D which means at stock speeds it will flatline a blinged-out, overclocked 285K. So why would anyone buy a 285K (more likely a 265K) except to build a SFF PC where lower temps are a much more significant priority?

 

[PEB]

Just leaving this hear lol.

 

[Slobodan]

To the surprise of no one, the 9800X3D is the fastest gaming processor.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Only graph that matters, lol:

 

[My Spot]

Power consumption is a bit disappointing but it does run cooler during gaming.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Power consumption is a bit disappointing but it does run cooler during gaming.

AMD changed the temperature sensor location in the AM5 9000 series. So its a bit of obfuscation occurring here.

 

[Blayt7hh]

To the surprise of no one, the 9800X3D is the fastest gaming processor.


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Ive been kind of itching to build a new PC. I probably will if the 5000 rtx cards aren't catching fire like the 4000 were

 

[Slobodan]

Ive been kind of itching to build a new PC. I probably will if the 5000 rtx cards aren't catching fire like the 4000 were

I'm getting the 9800X3D for sure.

 

[Slobodan]

AMD changed the temperature sensor location in the AM5 9000 series. So its a bit of obfuscation occurring here.

The 3D vcache is located below the cores this time, so it is actually cooler, which is what allows the higher boost clocks this time and PBO overclocking.

 

[My Spot]

May as well get a 9800X3D for only $30 more when the 7800X3D is still $450.
And I guess no one was waiting in line last night at MC since they still have 25+ in stock.

Edit: Or not since people are buying the 9800X3D for $750 on Ebay right now.

 

[Slobodan]

Yeah fuckers

 

[My Spot]

Yeah fuckers

Microcenter?

 

[Madmick]

May as well get a 9800X3D for only $30 more when the 7800X3D is still $450.
And I guess no one was waiting in line last night at MC since they still have 25+ in stock.

Edit: Or not since people are buying the 9800X3D for $750 on Ebay right now.

Imagine a CPU being scalped in this CPU market; as it has existed for the past 3 years, now.

The 9800X3D is a freaking monster. Holy salami.

Yeah fuckers

You sumbitch. @lsa, I get it now, it's all starting to make sense. I need some peanut butter.

Spoiler: Why do I need some peanut butter, you wonder?

To go with all this jelly.

 

[My Spot]

Still plenty of 9800X3Ds in stock at both MCs here but I called to ask about their "limit one per household" thing and it really means one per 30 days.

 

[Madmick]

Found a pic of @Slobodan in whatever game he plays next.

 

[Slobodan]

Microcenter?

Nah I'm from Australia. Got it from a local PC store called mWave

 

[My Spot]

7600X3D is looking good at $300 right now.

 

[Slobodan]

Found a pic of @Slobodan in whatever game he plays next.

Well good news, new CPU is great. Bad news, I bent the motherboard pins when the CPU slipped out of my hand, I've tried to bend them back into place but it didn't work. So now the the PC won't post with the second stick of RAM. Now I have to use one stick of RAM lol.