Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[PEB]

That's a good price for the 3070 Ti, about $60 under what it's been for that specific AIC recently, and about $40 under what the cheapest AICs have been, but I don't know why you're surprised to see that MSRPs aren't setting the effective market price for GPUs. Do you live under a rock?

I did expect this price and I was just pointing out that the price is still a hundred over what was reported. I wanted to give people some good news but you have to make it sound like I am clueless. There is good news tough not as good as what was reported in the press of it dropping to 699. But it is down about 110 dollars off of the prices I have seen in the last 30 days. I did not say I was surprised in anyway but I bet before June we could be looking at 700 for the the RTX 3070Ti and 1250 for the RTX 3080Ti. Why do you have to be so condescending? I don't know if it is sustainable anyways a friend of mine said he is getting ready to buy 20,000 dollars of cryptocurrency. I guess that means outside of Etherium people will be buying tons of GPU's for mining still. I don't need to look at the crypto market just from my friends buying habits to know it is still hot.

 

[Madmick]

I did expect this price and I was just pointing out that the price is still a hundred over what was reported. I wanted to give people some good news but you have to make it sound like I am clueless. There is good news tough not as good as what was reported in the press of it dropping to 699. But it is down about 110 dollars off of the prices I have seen in the last 30 days.

Because it kind of seems like you are clueless. This exact GPU flashed a sale for $699 on Newegg 17 days ago.


I'm citing stable averages, not the bottom prices that get scooped up quickly. There are about two dozen instances logged on /bpcs alone in the last month of 3070 Ti's at lower prices than this.

The MSRP for the 3070 Ti was originally supposed to be $599, remember? And even that was overpriced. There's barely any difference between it and the 3070 which has an MSRP of $499; a price that matches what the xx70 Ti/Super series used to cost. This is Asus's lowest tier AIC 3070 Ti. You think telling us a card is available for $800 that used to cost ~$400 is "good news"?

 

[PEB]

Because it kind of seems like you are clueless. This exact GPU flashed a sale for $699 on Newegg 17 days ago.


I'm citing stable averages, not the bottom prices that get scooped up quickly. There are about two dozen instances logged on /bpcs alone in the last month of 3070 Ti's at lower prices than this.

The MSRP for the 3070 Ti was originally supposed to be $599, remember? And even that was overpriced. There's barely any difference between it and the 3070 which has an MSRP of $499; a price that matches what the xx70 Ti/Super series used to cost. This is Asus's lowest tier AIC 3070 Ti. You think telling us a card is available for $800 that used to cost ~$400 is "good news"?

All I am trying to do is give people some good news about GPU and CPU prices I could give a flying F'k about the price myself so being surprised really? Paying 1,000 dollars for a 3060 GPU seemed really F'ing dumb but plenty of idiots did it causing people who did not have the money to put off buying one. Sorry I cannot sit an F'ing deal with Newegg bullsh*t to get a flash sale on a GPU these prices I am talking about is a return to more sensible prices troll. I have bought stuff from Newegg in the past and they suck pretty much as bad as you can get so I hardly give them the time of day.

 

[Madmick]

All I am trying to do is give people some good news about GPU and CPU prices I could give a flying F'k about the price myself so being surprised really? Paying 1,000 dollars for a 3060 GPU seemed really F'ing dumb but plenty of idiots did it causing people who did not have the money to put off buying one. Sorry I cannot sit an F'ing deal with Newegg bullsh*t to get a flash sale on a GPU these prices I am talking about is a return to more sensible prices troll. I have bought stuff from Newegg in the past and they suck pretty much as bad as you can get so I hardly give them the time of day.

The average price of 3060's has never exceeded $610. Know when the average price peaked? Last month. After you already started telling everyone that GPU prices were coming down.

It's as simple as this. You gullibly read some headlines about GPU prices coming down, rushed here to excitedly share this news without skepticism or meaningful review of pricing trends, and have been doubling down since. Just stop. It's not a good market-- not respective to any period. It's terrible. Stop spamming your share buttons. This is ridiculous.

 

[My Spot]

Saw a 12GB 2060 at Microcenter today for $430. Didn't even know such a card existed.

 

[Madmick]

Saw a 12GB 2060 at Microcenter today for $430. Didn't even know such a card existed.

Nor did I. Frankly, I'm surprised NVIDIA didn't go out of their way to hype it a bit more because it actually deserves it. It's not a 2060. It should be called the 2060+ or something like that.

Because it doesn't just have double the VRAM. It also has a +105MHz core clock, +30MHz boost clock, +256 shaders, +16 texture mappers, +32 tensor cores, and +4 ray-tracing cores (with the SMs). What a strange card with seemingly no reason to exist.

 

[PEB]

The average price of 3060's has never exceeded $610. Know when the average price peaked? Last month. After you already started telling everyone that GPU prices were coming down.

It's as simple as this. You gullibly read some headlines about GPU prices coming down, rushed here to excitedly share this news without skepticism or meaningful review of pricing trends, and have been doubling down since. Just stop. It's not a good market-- not respective to any period. It's terrible. Stop spamming your share buttons. This is ridiculous.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gpu-pricing-index/7
Should have said 3060 ti added the ti at the end. I am sure if I looked hard enough I could have found some higher.
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GeForce RTX 3090 $2,750 647 $1,779,030
GeForce RTX 3080 Ti $1,817 675 $1,226,313
GeForce RTX 3080 $1,672 888 $1,484,470
GeForce RTX 3070 Ti $1,174 470 $551,836
GeForce RTX 3070 $1,213 955 $1,158,530
GeForce RTX 3060 Ti $930 1643 $1,527,694
GeForce RTX 3060 12GB $699 1581 $1,104,566
Radeon RX 6900 XT $1,526 109 $166,326
Radeon RX 6800 XT $1,328 149 $197,941
Radeon RX 6800 $1,314 61 $80,181
Radeon RX 6700 XT $869 420 $364,791
Radeon RX 6600 XT $584 727 $424,350

 

[Madmick]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gpu-pricing-index/7
Should have said 3060 ti added the ti at the end. I am sure if I looked hard enough I could have found some higher.
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GeForce RTX 3090 $2,750 647 $1,779,030
GeForce RTX 3080 Ti $1,817 675 $1,226,313
GeForce RTX 3080 $1,672 888 $1,484,470
GeForce RTX 3070 Ti $1,174 470 $551,836
GeForce RTX 3070 $1,213 955 $1,158,530
GeForce RTX 3060 Ti $930 1643 $1,527,694
GeForce RTX 3060 12GB $699 1581 $1,104,566
Radeon RX 6900 XT $1,526 109 $166,326
Radeon RX 6800 XT $1,328 149 $197,941
Radeon RX 6800 $1,314 61 $80,181
Radeon RX 6700 XT $869 420 $364,791
Radeon RX 6600 XT $584 727 $424,350

You said 3060, not 3060 Ti. Spare me the song and dance about that being a typo. As you can see even the eBay average sale price never came close to $1000 for that card.

These are average eBay sale prices, not the whole market (PCPP tracks all major retailers, and there are other trackers for the various stores like Amazon/Amazon Mktplc). FYI, that's not even the most recent update they've published:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gpu-prices-mid-march-down-nine-percent

You obviously didn't notice the dates. The article is assessing the price in February, not March. So these prices have nothing to do with the tariff relief, new manufacturer boasts about lower pricing, crypto values, or the other nonsense you've thoughtlessly linked since mid-March. In fact, that article attributes the temporary eBay decline from February to the "crypto fallout". Yet over the past 30 days the crypto market is soaring.

You're incoherent.

 

[560ti]

Saw a 12GB 2060 at Microcenter today for $430. Didn't even know such a card existed.

Came out in December. Was easily forgetable because it's one of the most useless launches ever (basically the same MSRP as the 6600/3060 but lower performance, runs previous gen architecture, and is less power efficent than both the 2060 and 2060S).

 

[PEB]

Just bought an RTX 3060Ti for 550.00 bucks could not refuse it almost bought two of them they had only 2 left I bought one of them. The RTX 3060ti nearly as fast as the 3070 I bought for around 800 bucks so good tradeoff. All my equipment is running RTX 30 series now from laptops, desktops to simulator.

 

[Bornstarch]

Videocard price are finally starting to come down. I hope it goes down all the way and you can buy a 4090 for 1k when it comes out.

 

[PEB]

Videocard price are finally starting to come down. I hope it goes down all the way and you can buy a 4090 for 1k when it comes out.

Pretty funny most leaks put the price between 2000 and 2500 I just saw 1,950 and I think that was from a manufacturer it will be a long time before you see it for 1,000 bucks. I just got a message from the company I bought the RTX 3060Ti and they told me this is one the cards designed to limit mining performance like I care I want a gaming card lol.

"2) Please note that this GPU is LHR if ETH crypto mining is the intention."

 

[Madmick]

Just bought an RTX 3060Ti for 550.00 bucks could not refuse it almost bought two of them they had only 2 left I bought one of them. The RTX 3060ti nearly as fast as the 3070 I bought for around 800 bucks so good tradeoff. All my equipment is running RTX 30 series now from laptops, desktops to simulator.

Did you?

I just looked Intel back above AMD's stock price sky is falling. Realize Apple just pushed Intel an AMD's sh×t in again. 64 cores 800 gigabytes per second bus an up to 128 gigs of GPU memory unified but still. Apple claims it can smack around the RTX 3090. My point competition is good an a robust infrastructure includes TSMC is good for everyone.

Just got an RTX 3070 for only 15 percent above MSRP thanks Intel. No doubt a flood of GPU's on the market is a sign Nvidia an AMD are possibly getting product out ahead of release.Again a 3rd entry is good for the price an accessibility.

Why

Here the 3060 I bought today an prices will go up because of supply demand issues. People will long for the days of 600 dollar low end GPU's. Nvidia an AMD seen the reactions by consumers with previous releases. I am sure greed an people's willingness to spend premium prices are driving it. Cryptocurrency is hitting the skids in almost every alt coin except Bitcoin. Nvidia sees a day where miners are not spending big bucks to secure cards now because TSMC has 25 percent of the world’s chips others will follow.

Just bought an RTX 3070 now you can get an RTX 3080Ti for 1400 bucks.

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3955-KR

So you bought a 3070, then a 3060, then a 3070, and now a 3060 Ti. Additionally, you also bought a laptop with a 30-series GPU while your use of the plural indicates you have multiple laptops.


Meanwhile, at that time, in October, you predicted that prices of GPUs would skyrocket because NVIDIA had halted production of 30 series GPUs due to the crypto market crashing: "People will long for the days of 600 dollar low end GPU's." Yet today you claim you bought a 3060 Ti for $550.

Another crazy Nvidia story or rumor Nvidia halted production of their 30xx cards due to the prices failing rapidly on the market due to cryptocurrencies crash. Is that nice of Nvidia worrying about consumers. Lol as someone posted those CEO leather jackets don't pay for themselves.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ha...rtx-30-series-gpu-to-avoid-price-plummet/amp/

You also predicted a "flood" of Intel GPUs would hit the market in March.

You're a strange dude who seems addicted to spam re-sharing whatever crosses your RSS feed.

 

[jefferz]

It's a Microcenter in store only deal, but the i3-10105F is on sale for $70.

 

[PEB]

Did you?



So you bought a 3070, then a 3060, then a 3070, and now a 3060 Ti. Additionally, you also bought a laptop with a 30-series GPU while your use of the plural indicates you have multiple laptops.


Meanwhile, at that time, in October, you predicted that prices of GPUs would skyrocket because NVIDIA had halted production of 30 series GPUs due to the crypto market crashing: "People will long for the days of 600 dollar low end GPU's." Yet today you claim you bought a 3060 Ti for $550.

You also predicted a "flood" of Intel GPUs would hit the market in March.

You're a strange dude who seems addicted to spam re-sharing whatever crosses your RSS feed.

I will get photos of all my gear for you as well as a extra RTX 2070 seated around doing nothing because I upgraded to RTX 3060 and my simulator is an RTX 3070. These two 3D printers I put together one on the right costs 4,450.00 "prints soon in carbon fiber and steel " and the other left one is 975 dollars built the environmentally controlled chamber for it. I own multiple rental properties and I do temporary work for a living. I been plowing thousands into building a business.

 

[WhiteMousse]

Videocard price are finally starting to come down. I hope it goes down all the way and you can buy a 4090 for 1k when it comes out.

A 4090? Dude you're not going to see anything ending with an 80 or 90 for less than $2000.00. The cat is out of the bag, people are willing to shell out cash for it

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

@Madmick and @rob mafia don’t agree on anything, ever, but it’s funny watching them both beat up on @PEB for constantly posting spam in this thread and the “Intel’s fucked” thread.

 

[PEB]

@Madmick and @rob mafia don’t agree on anything, ever, but it’s funny watching them both beat up on @PEB for constantly posting spam in this thread and the “Intel’s fucked” thread.

Beat up on me because I back up what the F I'm talking about troll. This is an A an B conversation C yourself out of it.

Rtx's as far as the eye can see. It's even my workshop laptop lol. Just doing some dusting due to being a workshop. Building a second garage next to the first one for expansion doubling the size of my work area. What have you built in your life other then trolling boards.

 

[Madmick]

Beat up on me because I back up what the F I'm talking about troll. This is an A an B conversation C yourself out of it.

Rtx's as far as the eye can see. It's even my workshop laptop lol. Just doing some dusting due to being a workshop. Building a second garage next to the first one for expansion doubling the size of my work area. What have you built in your life other then trolling boards.

 

[KidBaize]

Do you guys know if my motherboard could be a possible bottleneck for my GPU?

Mobo: TUF Z270 MARK 2 supports DDR4 DIMM RAM modules
GPU: GTX 1070 PCIe 3.0 with 8 GB GDDR5 memory

If my motherboard only supports DDR4 memory, would that also downscale or limit my GPU's performance?