War Wagon Gaethje walks through Paddy.

[bjjwar]

Its not the same Gaethje that fought Khabib. He is much older, got brutally KO’ed and is inactive.

 

[Outrider1981]

I think Paddy submits Gaethje.
He Could Even knock him out. Chin is gone by now.

 

[fizzlehiss]

Really depends how Paddy chooses to engage. Either way I see a finish from either side.

 

[Marko Polo]

What will they say after Paddy stops Gaethje

Gaethje old and washed up and shit on his resume

Make a bet

 

[Mind Mine]

The fight against Chandler was fixed.

Even though JG is old, I still believe he's a top opponent and will deliver a good fight.
I recognize that this is Paddy's first real fight, mark my words.

Let’s entertain what you claimed about the Chandler fight. If that were true what would possibly make you think this wouldn’t occur for Paddy the bigger draw

 

[SamuraiBro]

Paddy will make it look easy. 2nd round submission or ground n pound tko.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Paddy gonna put that old war horse out to pasture, and then haters will bitch that Paddy only beats up old men.

 

[HeadKickerV2]

Paddy will submit Gaethje in the first two rounds.

Gaethje removes gloves and announces retirement.

Topuria tweets some bs to Paddy to make their fight not seem like a joke that it is, the end.

 

[Morris88]

Honestly I think Paddy is going to smash him to bits on the feet and then sub him when Justin shoots a desperate TD after getting rocked

 

[The_Renaissance]

I think it's gonna look a lot like the Paddy/Chandler fight. Pimblett takes him down, mauls him a bit and then RNC's him in the end. I don't see Gaethje lasting two full rounds.

 

[mkess101]

We're talking grappling mate.

Justin doesn't fight grapplers. He fights guys perfectly willing to stand in front of him like Fiziev.

Paddy's skills on the mat aren't the question. It's his ability to actually GET the fight there that is. Paddy has 4 total TD's in his 7 UFC fights. Meanwhile he's been taken down 12 times. That doesn't exactly scream "brilliant wrestler!"

Everyone can see he's dangerous on the mate. We can also see there's at least a decent chance he can't find a way to ever get it there. Nothing I've seen from his wrestling suggests he's gonna waltz in and take Justin down.

 

[mkess101]

Justin is 37 with a cracked chin and years of wear and tear. This is not the Justin from a few years back, Paddy should be viewed as the favorite.

He is the betting favorite...but if this is a striking match I don't see him having the edge at all. He's not Max in the standup. He's not even Fisiev, who Justin has beaten twice in mostly standup fights. Paddy NEEDS the fight to hit the mat imo.

 

[spinup]

Gaethje is past his prime, Paddy has shown more responsible stand up defense and movement in his last few fights, his offense is still not great though, but neither is Gaethje's fight IQ.

Paddy's BJJ is legit, Gaethje's striking is legit.

I think the combination of Gaethje's age and fight IQ puts him at a disadvantage. I'd bet on Paddy is he is an underdog, wouldn't feel comfortable betting on Gaethje at all though.

It could get really ugly for Justin if that fights hits the ground.

But looking forward to see if indeed the scawzer can get nort awooot.

 

[Ronald Ringpiece]

Gaethje is washed, Paddy wins.

Gaethje is washed, based on what?

In the last 5 years he's lost only to Khabib, Oliveira and Holloway and in that time beat Ferguson, Chandler, Poirier and Fiziev.

The only notable wins Paddy has got are Bobby Green and Chandler Let's not forget he lost to Jared Gordon, despite what anyone else says.

 

[Deadwing88]

Paddy beats him pretty easily

So, yeah, pretty bad take

Might want to try actual fight analysis rather than Wikipedia analysis.

The irony is that the take that Paddy beats him pretty easily is Wikipedia analysis.

You're buying into the UFCs carefully controlled matchmaking that has gradually eased the easiest possible route for a belt.

The presumption that Pimblett is a grappler at the level of Khabib or will suddenly refine his striking defense to sustain the pressure to takedown against a contender several levels above anyone he's fought so far... it won't be a easy fight.

Charles had success in grappling by dropping Gaethje then following him to the ground... Khabib had to absorb numerous shots before landing the takedown.

Gaethje is older but the sample size of those who have had success with such a gameplan is small.

 

[Deadwing88]

Doubt it man Justin had to fight for his life against Chandler whereas Paddy weathered a round of wrestling and then beat the shit out of him in the 2+3d rounds. Paddy will actually mix it up whereas Gaetje likely won’t even try to.

You're bringing up Gaethje's fight against Chandler 4 years ago like the latter hasn't lost several times since ?

 

[mkess101]

I think Paddy submits Gaethje.
He Could Even knock him out. Chin is gone by now.

Fisiev landed good shots on Justin in the rematch and Justin ate them.

Are we saying Paddy is a better striker/hits harder than Fisiev?

 

[Deadwing88]

Paddy's skills on the mat aren't the question. It's his ability to actually GET the fight there that is. Paddy has 4 total TD's in his 7 UFC fights. Meanwhile he's been taken down 12 times. That doesn't exactly scream "brilliant wrestler!"

Everyone can see he's dangerous on the mate. We can also see there's at least a decent chance he can't find a way to ever get it there. Nothing I've seen from his wrestling suggests he's gonna waltz in and take Justin down.

For some reason in the interim of fighting several washed fighters, a mystique that Paddy is a master offensive grappler beyond his admittedly decent BJJ has been created.

I don't see it.

 

[mkess101]

The irony is that the take that Paddy beats him pretty easily is Wikipedia analysis.

You're buying into the UFCs carefully controlled matchmaking that has gradually eased the easiest possible route for a belt.

The presumption that Pimblett is a grappler at the level of Khabib or will suddenly refine his striking defense to sustain the pressure to takedown against a contender several levels above anyone he's fought so far... it won't be a easy fight.

Charles had success in grappling by dropping Gaethje then following him to the ground... Khabib had to absorb numerous shots before landing the takedown.

Gaethje is older but the sample size of those who have had success with such a gameplan is small.

This is exactly what I don't get.

Do I think Paddy has improved a ton, and the shitty look vs Jared Gordon is long in the rear view? Yep.

But even with that being true, where has Paddy shown elite wrestling (or even way above average wrestling) that we think him getting it to the mat will be some easy task? I've seen every Paddy UFC fight, he's not a great wrestler. At all. He is absolutely a beast WHEN the fight is on the ground. But it has to get there first. Paddy **might** only need it on the mat once, but it's absolutely not a foregone conclusion that he's able to get Justin down even one time.

Standing, Paddy is ultra heavy on the lead leg. Justin hasn't used leg kicks as much lately as he used to but he almost surely will here and Paddy's lead leg is gonna get chewed up unless he makes major adjustments to how he normally fights.

 

[McGeezle]

Why the fuck would you change the "news" tag to green so stupid ass "war wagons" could be red? Wtf is a war wagon?