Fury by KO

Well that's at least 1 person who saw what I saw.




Either Fury can't punch or Usyk has a solid chin. I lean towards the latter. Joshua, Gassiev and Dubois hit him with clean shots too and couldn't move him and they are all deadly punchers. Fury has put people to sleep with one punch despite not being known as a puncher, so Usyk's chin is definitely pretty pretty solid. Having a small head and huge traps maybe helps too.
 
Well that's at least 1 person who saw what I saw.




That uppercut was beautiful. Didn't know Fury had that in him. He did good work but simply didn't follow it up. When you have 50+ pounds on your opponent, you need to use it to your advantage. I was still impressed with Fury's performance though. He was more focused. But so was Usyk.
 
Hot take on Usyk "being stopped" by Dubois he knew it was a foul immediately.

In several fights whether it was excessive holding, back fists, back of the head, low blows he seems to immediately exaggerate fouls and if ref calls them off he just stops immediately and keeps going. Had they ruled that a legal shot he would've just gotten up and the rest of the fight was a total whitewash.
 
who wants that??!!

We seen all we ever needed to see.

Usyk had an easier go than the first one. No need for a third.
Yeah Fury needs to forget it now, Usyk proved him (and me) wrong twice.
 
Hot take on Usyk "being stopped" by Dubois he knew it was a foul immediately.

In several fights whether it was excessive holding, back fists, back of the head, low blows he seems to immediately exaggerate fouls and if ref calls them off he just stops immediately and keeps going. Had they ruled that a legal shot he would've just gotten up and the rest of the fight was a total whitewash.
same crowd saying Fury was knocked out in the first Wilder fight, the ref decides the rules, not some armchair idiot at home
 
Either Fury can't punch or Usyk has a solid chin. I lean towards the latter. Joshua, Gassiev and Dubois hit him with clean shots too and couldn't move him and they are all deadly punchers. Fury has put people to sleep with one punch despite not being known as a puncher, so Usyk's chin is definitely pretty pretty solid. Having a small head and huge traps maybe helps too.
i think it isn't fair to claim fury isn't a puncher now. he used to be known for lacking power, but he's KO'd chisora, whyte, and wilder twice - before looking like shit against ngannou and getting schooled by usyk.

fury is 270+ pounds. when he plants his feet and put his weight behind his shots, he's got proper power. not the explosive kind of power AJ and wilder have, but definitely the kind of power that can turn your lights out.

so i think usyk's chin is solid granite, he's been in there with some hitters.
 
i think it isn't fair to claim fury isn't a puncher now. he used to be known for lacking power, but he's KO'd chisora, whyte, and wilder twice - before looking like shit against ngannou and getting schooled by usyk.

fury is 270+ pounds. when he plants his feet and put his weight behind his shots, he's got proper power. not the explosive kind of power AJ and wilder have, but definitely the kind of power that can turn your lights out.

so i think usyk's chin is solid granite, he's been in there with some hitters.
Yeah Usyk's been in with several of the hardest hitters at cruiser & heavyweight. He was tagged clean by all of them. His chin held up fine. In the amateurs he also fought heavy hitters like Beterbiev on 3 occasions. Usyk's chin is proven. It could fail as he's getting older, and he's 38 in a few weeks, but it's shown to be granite so far.
 
Do you always agree with yourself like this?
his psychiatrists told him he had a split personality, then laid a 90 dollar bill on him, he gave him forty five bucks and told him to get 45 from the other guy.
 
i think it isn't fair to claim fury isn't a puncher now. he used to be known for lacking power, but he's KO'd chisora, whyte, and wilder twice - before looking like shit against ngannou and getting schooled by usyk.

fury is 270+ pounds. when he plants his feet and put his weight behind his shots, he's got proper power. not the explosive kind of power AJ and wilder have, but definitely the kind of power that can turn your lights out.

so i think usyk's chin is solid granite, he's been in there with some hitters.
he looked absolutely imposing in the 2nd wilder fight, he didn't even land a clean punch in that one and he was beating Wilder. He never fought like that in any fight I've seen, before or since. It's gotta be a temperment thing. Some guys just don't want to kill with every punch.
 
he looked absolutely imposing in the 2nd wilder fight, he didn't even land a clean punch in that one and he was beating Wilder. He never fought like that in any fight I've seen, before or since. It's gotta be a temperment thing. Some guys just don't want to kill with every punch.
i forgot who it was, but some high profile trainer was saying for years that fury would eventually start knocking people out... even when he wasn't a puncher.

he is monstrously big. any man that large can generate power if they really commit to it. i guess at that point he decided to do it?
 
Yeah obviously not enough effect. If you can see this video, around 0:09,0:18 and 0:23 you can see what I mean, effective punches that make usyk lose balance/stagger a little. Just felt that's more than I've seen in the past.

Rd2 0:14 remaining
Rd4 0:50 remaining
Rd5 2:06 remaining

round five he caught him with a great shot and shook him. Not enough though, Fury was throwing enough but not landing enough. Neither guy is really doing a lot in my opinion. Usyk did what he had to do but I'm through round five and it's a lot of posturing and some exchanges, Usyk basically won a pretty banal fight. I can see why some think Fury won or that it was closer, he did throw a lot but he just didn't land much and as mentioned, some judges give ring generalship a lot of credit. Usyk controlled the fight and made the fight.
 
i forgot who it was, but some high profile trainer was saying for years that fury would eventually start knocking people out... even when he wasn't a puncher.

he is monstrously big. any man that large can generate power if they really commit to it. i guess at that point he decided to do it?
that's my belief, just look at some of those wilder knockdowns in the 2nd fight, the noise alone they made told you he was trying to hurt that man. He actually was putting wilder down with "punches" that were basically his palm, not landing clean blow and still doing damage.

Again, some guys just don't want to kill, particularly boxers. I'll always think Camacho and Ali could have ended more fights than they chose and even Roy Jones could have ended more fights than he did even though he showed plenty of power. He just as often put on a show, especially as he went up to LHW.
 
round five he caught him with a great shot and shook him. Not enough though, Fury was throwing enough but not landing enough. Neither guy is really doing a lot in my opinion. Usyk did what he had to do but I'm through round five and it's a lot of posturing and some exchanges, Usyk basically won a pretty banal fight. I can see why some think Fury won or that it was closer, he did throw a lot but he just didn't land much and as mentioned, some judges give ring generalship a lot of credit. Usyk controlled the fight and made the fight.
The common theme being that Usyk hit Fury's body whenever he went there and he was consistently targeting it the whole fight. Did you see those powerful straight left hands to the body especially in round 2 & 3? They drained Fury. The second half of the fight was all Usyk. It's hard to even give Fury any of those rounds. That's also how the official judges scored it.

As far as the stats are concerned Usyk outlanded him in total punches in every round except 1 of them according to CompuBox. Anyone that thinks Fury deserved a win or a draw is nuts. He only fought in spurts. Usyk was consistent and landing combinations while Fury was only throwing 1 or 2 punches at a time.
 
The common theme being that Usyk hit Fury's body whenever he went there and he was consistently targeting it the whole fight. Did you see those powerful straight left hands to the body especially in round 2 & 3? They drained Fury. The second half of the fight was all Usyk. It's hard to even give Fury any of those rounds. That's also how the official judges scored it.

As far as the stats are concerned Usyk outlanded him in total punches in every round except 1 of them according to CompuBox. Anyone that thinks Fury deserved a win or a draw is nuts. He only fought in spurts. Usyk was consistent and landing combinations while Fury was only throwing 1 or 2 punches at a time.
Fury was constantly leading and getting off first. I think the people thinking he won are giving him credit for all those punches that landed on gloves. Fury did some good work with his jab, landed the harder punches in the fight but that's only a few punches, neither guy seriously hurt. Again, Fury worked but he just was not landing enough. How can you give credit for punches that land on the sides of gloves? He tried though, he was even trying to snake in a straight right hand but it just didn't work. Right guy won, just don't take poll of brits for that though.
 
That uppercut was beautiful. Didn't know Fury had that in him. He did good work but simply didn't follow it up. When you have 50+ pounds on your opponent, you need to use it to your advantage. I was still impressed with Fury's performance though. He was more focused. But so was Usyk.
he was trying to bully him in the 12th and usyk put him back in his place. My opinion? That's how he shoulda fought right from the start. Just let physics do the work for you. Him trying to win technical fight just isn't in the cards.
 
Fury was constantly leading and getting off first. I think the people thinking he won are giving him credit for all those punches that landed on gloves. Fury did some good work with his jab, landed the harder punches in the fight but that's only a few punches, neither guy seriously hurt. Again, Fury worked but he just was not landing enough. How can you give credit for punches that land on the sides of gloves? He tried though, he was even trying to snake in a straight right hand but it just didn't work. Right guy won, just don't take poll of brits for that though.
The cleanest punches though were landed by Usyk. He had the quality & quantity consistently throughout the fight. There were a few punches that Fury landed to the chest that knocked him off balance but that's not unusual. He had a 50+ lbs weight advantage. I think it was round 11 when Usyk really started lighting him up. Walking him down relentlessly. Fury's best work came in the first half. It's the second half that really cost him the fight. Usyk was getting stronger and Fury started fading by like round 7.

I don't know any Brits who post here that had it for Fury and the British commentators on DAZN also had it for Usyk. The only one I know of that say they thought Fury won is Frank Warren but that's his promoter.
 
Jeff thinks he won:

also, i thought i drove by the mayweather gym 10 years ago and it didn't look like this, did they move?

 
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he was trying to bully him in the 12th and usyk put him back in his place. My opinion? That's how he shoulda fought right from the start. Just let physics do the work for you. Him trying to win technical fight just isn't in the cards.
That's a phenomenon you see a lot today or even in this century so far... Boxers starting to fight in the 12th round.

It's one thing to go all out and bank the last round. It's an entirely different thing to fight the wrong fight for 11 rounds and fight how you should have fought in the 12th round.
 
The cleanest punches though were landed by Usyk. He had the quality & quantity consistently throughout the fight. There were a few punches that Fury landed to the chest that knocked him off balance but that's not unusual. He had a 50+ lbs weight advantage. I think it was round 11 when Usyk really started lighting him up. Walking him down relentlessly. Fury's best work came in the first half. It's the second half that really cost him the fight. Usyk was getting stronger and Fury started fading by like round 7.

I don't know any Brits who post here that had it for Fury and the British commentators on DAZN also had it for Usyk. The only one I know of that say they thought Fury won is Frank Warren but that's his promoter.
the brits i'm seeing, Anthony joshua had it 95-95, midfight, don't know who he thought one, Hamed thought the rubber match was called for, the brits are everywhere on social media claiming larceny.
 
That's a phenomenon you see a lot today or even in this century so far... Boxers starting to fight in the 12th round.

It's one thing to go all out and bank the last round. It's an entirely different thing to fight the wrong fight for 11 rounds and fight how you should have fought in the 12th round.
Yup, Ali used to do that in his late career as champ, he pulled out a lot of fights at the end (some he didn't deserve) he valiantly tried it with Leon Spinks when it sunk in that he was gonna lose to a guy with 8 fights, Spinks still kicked his ass in that last round. And I think one judge still managed to give the fight to Ali when he didn't really win a round.
 
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