Fury by KO

[treelo]

told everyone I knew to bet on mayweather-mcgregor. that was once in a lifetime.

i cant imagine the odds were great, and even then, it looked a little bit fixed with Mayweather trying to dictate the rounds

if he had of gone all out from the bell he would have stopped him in a round

 

[mozfonky]

i cant imagine the odds were great, and even then, it looked a little bit fixed with Mayweather trying to dictate the rounds

if he had of gone all out from the bell he would have stopped him in a round

odds were ridiculous, if i had a house, ida bet it on mayweather.

 

[SandisLL]

A lot of Xtians are hypocrites. That's my main issue with them. I was initially baptized Catholic and went to a parochial school for 5 years. Organized religion in general is nothing but a bunch of bullshit. Churches are always passing their basket around fishing for donations, too many priests out there are pеdos, and then there are all of those holier-than-thou types. Not interested in being a part of the parish anymore. I don't miss it.

There ofc is a lot of BS, however at least in europe they had changed a lot, slowly during xxx years to more soft approach if we do know that earlier they had sold indulgences and had blessed crusades and justified occupations + colonization and financial & physical subjugation of opponents.
If compare with this history russian propaganda is begginer kinder garden level stuff.

However I understand why fighters often are turning to think about God.

For example one guy had chanted almost silent prayer when they applied hands wraps...despite he usually was average normal guy. I think for a reason: opponent he had to fight with in ams had 2 nice cases ( rude sarcasm ) : one from his opponents in ams had died, another guy never had competed after fight with this guy. This guy had did nothing wrong and didn't had doctored stuff or juiced, also in both cases all punches were according to rules. He didn't talked some weeks after these fights. Actually just guy who does beat very hard... It is sirrealistic sense about life ...

 

[SandisLL]

yup, he was pfp better as a cw of course. As a heavyweight, he was never a puncher no matter how many roids he took.

Holy was one from best if not the best CW boxer world ever had.
When he moved to HW ofc cos american market nuances paychecks in HW are and were significantly better than for CW division.

While Holy in HW was slower, had reduced sharpness and agility, was more predictable and was slower than when he was in CW division. Looks that Holy managed to reduce these drawbacks effects mainly because he was very highly skilled and really talented boxer.

There ofc HW does have one additional bonus : responsible athletes competing in weight classes where they have to make weight in according to rules and contracts should think about this each day plus it does takes a lot of nerves..
While for HW it is not problem here...
You will not risk with ranking and fines and definitely will not lost paycheck if you will be heavier than some limit for weight ins.

This does save a lot of nerves and IMHO exaxtly this is reaso why HW fighters usually last longer for their pro career.
Ofc there are some drawbacks because some low ranked HW fighters might afford not to train at all before fights...why if paycheck will be anyway and you might not care to keep weight .... therefore in early stage of pro career good matchmaker might easily to ensure some couple of easy wins vs HW fighters who are lazy and doesn't train anymore... everything legal, 0 $ under the table or something like this.

Ofc when you move up in rankings such beauty options are gone, everyone wants to win next bout and does train a lot.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Interesting remark by Andy Lee. He was contemplating on throwing the towel in when Fury was getting battered in round 9. Could it have resulted in a Breland type of debacle? Possibly, but given that Andy is Tyson's (second) cousin, probably not.

 

[mozfonky]

Holy was one from best if not the best CW boxer world ever had.
When he moved to HW ofc cos american market nuances paychecks in HW are and were significantly better than for CW division.

While Holy in HW was slower, had reduced sharpness and agility, was more predictable and was slower than when he was in CW division. Looks that Holy managed to reduce these drawbacks effects mainly because he was very highly skilled and really talented boxer.

There ofc HW does have one additional bonus : responsible athletes competing in weight classes where they have to make weight in according to rules and contracts should think about this each day plus it does takes a lot of nerves..
While for HW it is not problem here...
You will not risk with ranking and fines and definitely will not lost paycheck if you will be heavier than some limit for weight ins.

This does save a lot of nerves and IMHO exaxtly this is reaso why HW fighters usually last longer for their pro career.
Ofc there are some drawbacks because some low ranked HW fighters might afford not to train at all before fights...why if paycheck will be anyway and you might not care to keep weight .... therefore in early stage of pro career good matchmaker might easily to ensure some couple of easy wins vs HW fighters who are lazy and doesn't train anymore... everything legal, 0 $ under the table or something like this.

Ofc when you move up in rankings such beauty options are gone, everyone wants to win next bout and does train a lot.

agility hop good but steroids make money time.

 

[BoxingMMA]

Pros and cons for each fighter.

Fury. Pro. He knows he was winning and in control of that fight until all went to hell with that punch that nearly ended him. Historically he does better in rematches.

Con. Wilder hurt him, Nganou hurt him, Usyk hurt him…it doesn’t take a master boxer to hurt fury and Usyk is by far the smartest he’s ever fought, on top of that, Usyk knows he can hurt him and I have a hard time believing that a master boxer like him can’t find fury’s chin in 12 rounds. Fury will be hurt in this fight unless he finishes Usyk early. almost a guarantee.


Usyk. Pro. I’ve never seen anyone make adjustments like he does, ever. Been watching boxing since the 80’s. No compares, he has faced tough battles with betterbiev in the amateurs, briedis, bellew, Joshua, fury… in all of these fights (and others) there’s always that moment where you say “I guess that’s all there’s to Usyk then”
It looks like he has been found out or figured out and then somehow, he comes out the next round and he is a different fighter, he forgets what happened in the previous rounds and starts again. It’s borderline miraculous how he does that shit.

Con. Fury is a master boxer and realistically was toying with him until Usyk nearly killed him, so he will need to use some of that adjustments magic for the rematch because the same thing won’t cut it, he can’t rely on landing one big punch like the last time. He also has to know fury is making the adjustments needed to win, as he always does.


My prediction is that Usyk wins by KO but oh this fight absolutely nothing would surprise me. Either fighter can win by KO, decisión or draw.

 

[djacobox372]

My prediction, Usyk by decision like last time. Very similar fight, only with Fury being less active and more careful.

I still hold that a better version of Fury beats Usyk rather one-sidedly, as even though he's slightly younger he's abused his body far more than Usyk and doesn't nearly have as much left in him.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

My prediction, Usyk by decision like last time. Very similar fight, only with Fury being less active and more careful.

I still hold that a better version of Fury beats Usyk rather one-sidedly, as even though he's slightly younger he's abused his body far more than Usyk and doesn't nearly have as much left in him.

Your last paragraph is comical. Fury could've fought him 2 years ago when he was "better" but blatantly ducked him. We know for a fact that he turned down multiple offers to fight Usyk and they were all for career high purses.

As for how much either has left in the tank, who knows. Usyk always being the much smaller fighter at heavyweight will take a bigger toll on your body. It's known to cause more wear & tear which is why Usyk's talking about moving back down to cruiser. On the other hand, Fury's always had a big size advantage over almost all of his opponents.

 

[mozfonky]

My prediction, Usyk by decision like last time. Very similar fight, only with Fury being less active and more careful.

I still hold that a better version of Fury beats Usyk rather one-sidedly, as even though he's slightly younger he's abused his body far more than Usyk and doesn't nearly have as much left in him.

could be but i keep saying (no one really listens) that the fighter who won the first fight usually wins the second one easier. Now, that's just bait to guys who want to bring up the Sugar Ray/Duran type fights but it's not meant to be. It's just boxing history that usually the guy who wins the first, usually wins the second easier. I don't see this fight as being one of the many exceptions that we know happen often enough in the sport. Fury does not inspire confidence that he can turn things around. I think he did about as much as he's gonna do in his career honestly and it's not all bad. He dominated Klitschko to win the title, had some thrilling fights with Wilder and now took on the best opponent he's probably ever gonna see.

 

[tank666]

Congrats to Usyk great performance credit to Fury too put a good fight

 

[moon to me]

Fury's gonna come back and do the business boys.

First fight was closer than people remember - everybody ofc thinking about Fury nearly being KO'd and how hurt he was, but that's ONE round. You don't win a fight from one round.

Honestly I think Usyk is a bit overrated. Yes he's good, but he's just a BIT better than everybody, he's not a dominant champion by any means. He hardly destroyed Joshua did he? Or Dubois. Dubois was giving him a tough fight, Derek Chisora gave him a tough fight ffs - and anyone who believes his nonsense that he 'kind of lost on purpose' to make Joshua fancy him is a fkn retard, seriously, lmao - that's just Usyk giving a line to explain away a journeyman going 12 rounds with him. No fighter is gonna risk 'losing on purpose a bit'. Idiocy.

Usyk wins close decision fights. Even the Joshua 2 fight; I can't stand AJ, so have every reason to see it through biased eyes - I thought Joshua won it.

The Fury fight...

Rounds 4, 5, 6 & 7 were Fury rounds, easily, and looked like he was going to maybe stop Usyk / Usyk looked tired and like he was giving up, first time I've ever seen him like it.

Rounds 1 & 2 were Usyk, just, 3 is debatable; 8, 9 & 10 all Usyk obviously, with a 10-8 in round 9, 11 & 12 both debatable, but most agree - 11 Usyk, 12 Fury.

That's a close fight.

Fury also had him hurt a couple times, was landing the uppercut at will, and didn't jump on him, too much respect - almost as if he wanted to win by points and be like 'I outboxed the boxer, see, I'm better'... I think this time, if he has him hurt, he will jump on him - and I think this whole 'I won't do anything differently' thing is mind games, so Usyk expects the same.

I bet he's been training hard looking for a knockout.

I was right when he did this for Wilder 2, and nobody believed him. But it was obvious to me he wasn't BS'ing bc he changed trainer to a knockout artist trainer in Sugar Hill AND put on a bunch of weight. People thinking him being heavier or any HW being heavier all the time = didn't train... sometimes it's intentional, to put more weight behind his punches, and, what he did to Wilder, which was lean on him n shit. I just knew from his actions - he ain't BSing if he's changing trainer n shit,

Unfortunately I didn't have the money to put on it, but I also was going to bet round 7, I put up a FB post before the fight 'Fury KO by 7', I woulda won like 10k

This time I got SOME money, not as much as I'd like, but, hey ho, tis what tis.

As always, my money where my mouth is lads:

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People talking about Usyk like he's the Matrix or invincible. Dude has been nearly beat and hurt on many ocassions. He just has a bit better gas tank and is a bit slicker than most.

May the gods be with me and bring me a very merry Christma$$$$$.

C'Mon Fury son! Get'in there ma boy.

Nope.

 

[Blastbeat]

i told ya Usyk's chin is too good to get KO'd
Fury put up a good fight and showed a great gas tank too especially with the extra weight
but Usyk just is too slick

 

[Noveltymortar]

116-112 was a crap score though. A draw would have been about right, or a point either way.

 

[The-AxeMurderer]

116-112 was a crap score though. A draw would have been about a right, or a point either way.

I think it was a proper score.

Judges got it right finally.

 

[The-AxeMurderer]

i told ya Usyk's chin is too good to get KO'd
Fury put up a good fight and showed a great gas tank too especially with the extra weight
but Usyk just is too slick

Helluva chin on Usyk

 

[Odoylerules22]

116-112 was a crap score though. A draw would have been about a right, or a point either way.

….no

 

[rorschach51]

116-112 was a crap score though. A draw would have been about a right, or a point either way.

Actually that score is right on the money.

 

[Noveltymortar]

….no

No

 

[CombatCyborg]

There were moments it looked like he could be on his way to one, but that second huge left Usyk landed changed the momentum of the fight permanently. It's too bad, there won't be a third fight now I think, Usyk is just too good. He has better pace, better cardio, more accurate, and more power too. Can't do anything about that.