Fury was nowhere close to a stoppage. You know what rational objective people saw? Fury getting bullied throughout the fight and by the much smaller man. Someone Fury called a "feather-fisted middleweight". He got humbled.
nah, Fury is too unstable to beat a good man. He'll find all kinds of ways to lose.
Fury was looking like that? I'd have to watch it again, I don't recall him looking like he had it in the bag but that may be because I think he's such a screwup that I can't see that.
it looks bad, whether it's hopkins or Usyk doing it, I said recently that I don't think Hopkins would beat Hagler and part of that is because of those antics, not just the low blows, if you have any sort of memory, he did a lot of other stuff too, falling out the ring.
Fury finds ways to make fights difficult for himself and he'll find a way to lose. Maybe, just maybe he's motivated by the big loss and will just will himself into using his advantages and imposing himself but I don't see it.
Love the fury wilder 2 reference here. I fully agree, hes going to try to get him out of there asap.Fury's gonna come back and do the business boys.
First fight was closer than people remember - everybody ofc thinking about Fury nearly being KO'd and how hurt he was, but that's ONE round. You don't win a fight from one round.
Honestly I think Usyk is a bit overrated. Yes he's good, but he's just a BIT better than everybody, he's not a dominant champion by any means. He hardly destroyed Joshua did he? Or Dubois. Dubois was giving him a tough fight, Derek Chisora gave him a tough fight ffs - and anyone who believes his nonsense that he 'kind of lost on purpose' to make Joshua fancy him is a fkn retard, seriously, lmao - that's just Usyk giving a line to explain away a journeyman going 12 rounds with him. No fighter is gonna risk 'losing on purpose a bit'. Idiocy.
Usyk wins close decision fights. Even the Joshua 2 fight; I can't stand AJ, so have every reason to see it through biased eyes - I thought Joshua won it.
The Fury fight...
Rounds 4, 5, 6 & 7 were Fury rounds, easily, and looked like he was going to maybe stop Usyk / Usyk looked tired and like he was giving up, first time I've ever seen him like it.
Rounds 1 & 2 were Usyk, just, 3 is debatable; 8, 9 & 10 all Usyk obviously, with a 10-8 in round 9, 11 & 12 both debatable, but most agree - 11 Usyk, 12 Fury.
That's a close fight.
Fury also had him hurt a couple times, was landing the uppercut at will, and didn't jump on him, too much respect - almost as if he wanted to win by points and be like 'I outboxed the boxer, see, I'm better'... I think this time, if he has him hurt, he will jump on him - and I think this whole 'I won't do anything differently' thing is mind games, so Usyk expects the same.
I bet he's been training hard looking for a knockout.
I was right when he did this for Wilder 2, and nobody believed him. But it was obvious to me he wasn't BS'ing bc he changed trainer to a knockout artist trainer in Sugar Hill AND put on a bunch of weight. People thinking him being heavier or any HW being heavier all the time = didn't train... sometimes it's intentional, to put more weight behind his punches, and, what he did to Wilder, which was lean on him n shit. I just knew from his actions - he ain't BSing if he's changing trainer n shit,
Unfortunately I didn't have the money to put on it, but I also was going to bet round 7, I put up a FB post before the fight 'Fury KO by 7', I woulda won like 10k
This time I got SOME money, not as much as I'd like, but, hey ho, tis what tis.
As always, my money where my mouth is lads:
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People talking about Usyk like he's the Matrix or invincible. Dude has been nearly beat and hurt on many ocassions. He just has a bit better gas tank and is a bit slicker than most.
May the gods be with me and bring me a very merry Christma$$$$$.
C'Mon Fury son! Get'in there ma boy.
I think some of you guys are reading way too much into this. The reason Usyk was selling it wasn't to buy time. Every fighter that's been hit low (fouled) automatically gets up to 5 minutes to recover. Usyk didn't even want to take the full amount of time. He told the ref he was ready to go before then. Fighters sell/milk it so that the ref takes a point or at least issues a strong warning that the next foul will result in a point deduction. It's meant to be a deterrent. Dubois was hitting him low all night. The guy that trained him also trained Chisora who fought Usyk rough & dirty. That's no coincidence.
Look at him channeling his inner Pac or Professor Griff. Get down Usyk.I think some of you guys are reading way too much into this. The reason Usyk was selling it wasn't to buy time. Every fighter that's been hit low (fouled) automatically gets up to 5 minutes to recover. Usyk didn't even want to take the full amount of time. He told the ref he was ready to go before then. Fighters sell/milk it so that the ref takes a point or at least issues a strong warning that the next foul will result in a point deduction. It's meant to be a deterrent. Dubois was hitting him low all night. The guy that trained him also trained Chisora who fought Usyk rough & dirty. That's no concidence.
It's easy to tell if a fighter is mentally weak. Usyk has never quit or even considered it. Had the ref called it a knockdown instead of a foul I'd expect Usyk to pop back up to his feet. When the Russians launched their second phase of the war in the last few years Usyk was exempt from it. In spite of this he willingly volunteered to be on the frontlines and joined their territorial defense force. It's hard enough to get an American heavyweight champ to defend their country in wartime, as we've seen with the likes of Dempsey, Ali, etc but it was Usyk's natural instinct. Obviously a wimp would never even consider it. Especially if given the choice to sit on the sidelines. This is just common sense.
Don't get it twisted though. I would say that Ali had very good reasons to not comply with the draft. He strongly opposed the war. Lots of people were against it back then. Secondly, Ali and his people as a whole had been treated like shit for the longest time. It takes courage to fight in a war but it also takes a lot of courage to stand up to your own government when you feel/know that they're in the wrong. As for Dempsey he made up for it later in WW2. He was commissioned as a commander in the Coast Guard and instructed soldiers on hand-to-hand combat. Prior to that he served in the national guard I believe.
Did you see the OP? It reads like a tryhard's manifesto. His opinions are fucking ridiculous. I'd be embarrassed to share them publicly.
was he really? I need to rewatch the fight.
So you disagree with Ricky Hatton then? Fury is his mate.
Ricky Hatton: Fury Shouldn't Let Smaller Usyk Bully Him
Usyk won the first 3 rounds, Fury won the next 4, and then Usyk won the last 5 according to most observers that actually scored the fight. So, going into the 8th round Fury deserved to be up by a round but the 8th round itself was won by Usyk.
i'll watch it again. I don't think any of that means Fury won't find a way to lose again.
Joshua also took rounds off of Usyk in both fights. So did Chisora. In terms of actual round-by-round scoring Fury did no better than those guys. Usyk has been known to drop a few rounds at heavyweight and usually it occurs mid-fight. He always adjusts and closes the fight strong. Does better the longer the fight goes. His opponents can't match his stamina.
