News *** Francis Ngannou Free Agency/Contract/Decision Making Discussion MEGA THREAD ***

[scoobster]

Francis barely got past Gane

Yeah but he did, Jon would get Francis aswell

 

[nonoob]

Which other MMA fighter has fought a big name boxer?

Randy Couture​

 

[Afrikan]

Since announcement is supposed to be revealed this week, I wonder if he is going to show up at one of the combat sports events this weekend.

Show up at One FC's event to suprise everyone? Probably not.

Show up to UFC PPV to surprise everyone that he's back in the UFC? You never know.

Show up at the Canelo event to announce a deal with DAZN Boxing? Would be sick.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Randy Couture​

 

[Canadian Kicker]

Even Chatri, or whatever the ONE owner's name is, said everything was cool and that Francis was respectful and they got along fine and like each other BUT......

So his "pissing him off" is really only rejecting his offer. They could easily sit back down and discuss again. Yes, the numbers would change based on Francis' perceived options, but they could talk again.

In other words, other than the UFC, which takes failed negotiations SUPER emotionally (or, at least Dana does), he hasn't really pissed anyone off by his actions as much as by his perceived self-worth.

He'll be fine.

Ok, that's good to hear. The only thing I really heard about One is that they could agree on pay but his additional conditions were so ridiculous that One walked away from the table.

 

[Franklin U.]

The UFC would never sign a 2 fight deal, especially for him. He would also be subject to tolling (which he explained how they routinely abused with him, including sending him a bout agreement with a date they knew his visa would not be renewed by) and a 5 year contract.

Aside from paying out a absolutely atrocious 18% of revenue to fighters (which includes every single penny of bonuses, PPV share, purses, insurance, travel, even the performance institute) the UFC has predatory contracts where they have ALL the power.

Francis fought out his contract and the "hE sIgNeD tHe CoNtRaCt" crowd are still complaining. Get a grip.

I'll watch Franics fight in any org because he's one of a handful heavyweight fighters on planet earth that is of interest to me. I could care less what the logo on the cage floor says and an announcer telling me to eat corn nuts. I watch and pay for the fighters, not the promotion.

Lol- all that wasn't necessary ( aS FaR aS mY poST GoEs). Your first sentence would suffice.
???

 

[lefthighkick01]

Reports are coming out that Bellator has now turned him down aswell?? Is this true?

 

[mma fighter]

How do you know he fucked up? Are you a time traveller? You've seen the future and know that he went to street beefs and failed to sign a fight with a top boxer? You're acting like all has been said and done and we're looking back at the past instead of an ongoing thing. What happens if he signs a $20 million deal with PFL and then books a fight with deontay wilder next year?

When it happens, you can say I told you so. Until then STFU cause you are not a time traveler either.

As it stands, he fucked up. He had a contract paying millions. He had a championship belt in the top MMA org. He now has nothing but his laurel's to rest on. Until that changes, he fucked up.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Today is the day, I can feel it
Let’s go Big Frank

 

[Lee_]

When it happens, you can say I told you so. Until then STFU cause you are not a time traveler either.

As it stands, he fucked up. He had a contract paying millions. He had a championship belt in the top MMA org. He now has nothing but his laurel's to rest on. Until that changes, he fucked up.

Francis is reading Sherdog posts and crying, realizing his life is over. lol

 

[m249viking]

It took years for the Mayweather/McGregor fight to come together and it was co-promoted by the UFC

No, it didn't.

 

[mudrubble]

Ok, that's good to hear. The only thing I really heard about One is that they could agree on pay but his additional conditions were so ridiculous that One walked away from the table.

I say check out Ariel's segment where he discusses. As usual, he's into facts and receipts more than Sherdog is.

 

[SharpasaRazor]

Big video running down the history of Dana's falling out with Jones about money then leading into the Francis situation:

 

[Fergelmince]

The UFC would never sign a 2 fight deal, especially for him. He would also be subject to tolling (which he explained how they routinely abused with him, including sending him a bout agreement with a date they knew his visa would not be renewed by) and a 5 year contract.

Aside from paying out a absolutely atrocious 18% of revenue to fighters (which includes every single penny of bonuses, PPV share, purses, insurance, travel, even the performance institute) the UFC has predatory contracts where they have ALL the power.

Francis fought out his contract and the "hE sIgNeD tHe CoNtRaCt" crowd are still complaining. Get a grip.

I'll watch Franics fight in any org because he's one of a handful heavyweight fighters on planet earth that is of interest to me. I could care less what the logo on the cage floor says and an announcer telling me to eat corn nuts. I watch and pay for the fighters, not the promotion.

he had said in the Ariel interview that they gave him a 3 fight contract. Where did you hear about the tolling and the 5 year contract? I'm not doubting you, I just want to see what ngannou had to say about.

Also, I read that fighter pay dropped to 15%-16% for the entirety of 2022. I can't find the source right now, but it shocked me after so many years of seeing them pay only 18%-19%.

 

[Sanserif]

Wtf are you talking about? Ngannou fought all these fights anyways. He might as well have fought them for more money while doing so.

Like I said, people only seem to side with Ngannou when they have no idea what happened and just assume UFC bad. So weird how every other promotion afterwards have equally come out and said no, Ngannou bad.

He's being utterly unreasonable.

What I'm saying is - hey its his call. U may take the ufc deal if u were in his shoes but the same mentality that brought him to the title wouldn't have taken the deal, and didn't.

 

[blackheart]

When it happens, you can say I told you so. Until then STFU cause you are not a time traveler either.

As it stands, he fucked up. He had a contract paying millions. He had a championship belt in the top MMA org. He now has nothing but his laurel's to rest on. Until that changes, he fucked up.

I'm not a time traveller which is why I'm not talking about this situation with such deluded certainty like you are. I've made no bold declarations about his career. That's you. That's what you're doing. Talking about the situation like you're a time traveller and you know the end result. Which you don't. But let's call it what it really is - wishful thinking. You have Dana whites cock shoved so far down your sweaty gullet, that he's operating you like a puppet with his flesh rod. Bald goof told you he's an enemy so like a good little attack dog you start barking at his command.

 

[mma fighter]

I'm not a time traveller which is why I'm not talking about this situation with such deluded certainty like you are. I've made no bold declarations about his career. That's you. That's what you're doing. Talking about the situation like you're a time traveller and you know the end result. Which you don't. But let's call it what it really is - wishful thinking. You have Dana whites cock shoved so far down your sweaty gullet, that he's operating you like a puppet with his flesh rod. Bald goof told you he's an enemy so like a good little attack dog you start barking at his command.

LOL, a whitebelt is telling me what's up. That is rich.

Your hate for Dana and the UFC is probably not healthy. You may need to take a break from Sherdog, even though you just started in March of 2023.

 

[mma fighter]

Francis is reading Sherdog posts and crying, realizing his life is over. lol

Doubt it, but he did fuck up. So there is that.

 

[Lee_]

Doubt it, but he did fuck up. So there is that.

Are you a close associate? A clairvoyant?

 

[blackheart]

LOL, a whitebelt is telling me what's up. That is rich.

Your hate for Dana and the UFC is probably not healthy. You may need to take a break from Sherdog, even though you just started in March of 2023.

I've not even expressed any hate towards Dana in my posts. Your last two responses have both been "no, you are!"

Do you have anything else or are you done being humiliated?