News *** Francis Ngannou Free Agency/Contract/Decision Making Discussion MEGA THREAD ***

[joeson]

The UFC would never sign a 2 fight deal, especially for him. He would also be subject to tolling (which he explained how they routinely abused with him, including sending him a bout agreement with a date they knew his visa would not be renewed by) and a 5 year contract.

Aside from paying out a absolutely atrocious 18% of revenue to fighters (which includes every single penny of bonuses, PPV share, purses, insurance, travel, even the performance institute) the UFC has predatory contracts where they have ALL the power.

Francis fought out his contract and the "hE sIgNeD tHe CoNtRaCt" crowd are still complaining. Get a grip.

I'll watch Franics fight in any org because he's one of a handful heavyweight fighters on planet earth that is of interest to me. I could care less what the logo on the cage floor says and an announcer telling me to eat corn nuts. I watch and pay for the fighters, not the promotion.

Good god, so much truth in a sea of UFC shill lies. This needs to be highlighted because the shill army will try to drown it with lies and posts dragging the conversation in a different direction.

 

[Crash-override]

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[spinup]

The UFC would never sign a 2 fight deal, especially for him. He would also be subject to tolling (which he explained how they routinely abused with him, including sending him a bout agreement with a date they knew his visa would not be renewed by) and a 5 year contract.

Aside from paying out a absolutely atrocious 18% of revenue to fighters (which includes every single penny of bonuses, PPV share, purses, insurance, travel, even the performance institute) the UFC has predatory contracts where they have ALL the power.

Francis fought out his contract and the "hE sIgNeD tHe CoNtRaCt" crowd are still complaining. Get a grip.

I'll watch Franics fight in any org because he's one of a handful heavyweight fighters on planet earth that is of interest to me. I could care less what the logo on the cage floor says and an announcer telling me to eat corn nuts. I watch and pay for the fighters, not the promotion.

I couldn't agree more.

The only thing that sucks is that the best matchups are unfortunately all in the UFC. Sure Malykhin, Bader, Buchecha would be decent, but not nearly as exciting as Jones, Pavlovich, Aspinall.

 

[mudrubble]

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What's that son? Speak up boy.... I say these old ears don't hear like the used to....

 

[mudrubble]

Like I said, people only seem to side with Ngannou when they have no idea what happened and just assume UFC bad.

Not true, my man. I am siding with Francis because it's his life and he got out of his UFC contract while still on top and (1) he'll get paid more in PFL, (2) will have the right to box on the side (whether or not that materializes he'll have the contractual right), and (3) won't have to deal with his strained relationship with Dana.

I champion fighters getting (1) more money, (2) more options, (3) better relationships. Shit, that sounds like a trifecta.

But none of it is based on UFC bad. It's just smart business.

 

[CatchtheseHands]

Everyone here knows the behind the scenes machinations from every side. They're aware of every dollar that was offered, number of fights involved and details. They know the other things Francis asked for weren't real sticking points. Dana was right. Jones was right. ONE really did offer $20 million. Jones was afraid. Francis was ducking. He'll still get boxing money but he won't.

Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah.

No one really knows anything.

You'd think everyone was sitting right in the room with Francis where the negotiations were taking place and overheard every detail with the way they talk about it. You're absolutely right, no one knows a damn thing except Francis and the people who were in the room with him. It's basically 120 pages of speculation

 

[TheMaster]

Jones has said it. He would only entertain not retiring for a Ngannou fight.
Dana has no choice but to make peace with Francis and make that fight once Miocic has been taken out.

“I do believe a Francis Ngannou fight would be worth entertaining not retiring,” Jones added. “I think a Francis fight would come with some serious revenue and that would make it worth my while. Francis is a former champion, he’s pretty damn popular here in America and across the world. It would bring in a lot of money and for that I would be willing to come back."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/eddie-hearn-tyson-fury-news-29879446

 

[Final Say]

Stipe Miocic is not a walkover. Especially if you don’t have stopping power.

 

[jeskola]

The only problem is, you will watch him fight a bum.

 

[RoyJonesJr]

By the time the dust settles

Francis and Jones will be 40+

These two will not fight and we need to let it go

 

[13Seconds]

Jones has said it.

Well that settles it then.

 

[mudrubble]

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I confused him for a woman, I swear! He had a vagina! Right..... 2023..... right...... fuuuuuck........ shit.....

 

[TheMaster]

Stipe Miocic is not a walkover. Especially if you don’t have stopping power.

That's a 40 yr old who has been brutally KO'd more then once.
Not a walkover, but he is not winning.

Nganno is playing the long game and he will win on this

 

[RoyJonesJr]

Stipe Miocic is not a walkover. Especially if you don’t have stopping power.

People are sleeping on Stipe so much

Honestly if he didn't drop his fight IQ in the rematch against Francis by thinking he had him hurt, he might have finished Francis in the later rounds.

4th and 5th round Stipe is dangerous

 

[FrappeDuRocma]

I think he will sign in the PFL with Cedric Doumbé, mark my words.

 

[mudrubble]

You'd think everyone was sitting right in the room with Francis where the negotiations were taking place and overheard every detail with the way they talk about it. You're absolutely right, no one knows a damn thing except Francis and the people who were in the room with him. It's basically 120 pages of speculation

If it shows anything, it shows hardcore MMA fans will watch ANYTHING Francis does. His team probably pulls up these threads in meetings and boasts the eyes he would bring to PFL or ONE or whatever....

 

[mudrubble]

I think he will sign in the PFL with Cedric Doumbé, mark my words.

Well the Francis-PFL part is well known. I will mark your words on Doumbe, though.

 

[kingghidrah]

Stipe Miocic is not a walkover. Especially if you don’t have stopping power.

Yeah the near-100% certainty that Jones is going to win and Stipe is a bum is insane around here.

Everything is based on a guy's last fight, that's as far back as a Sherbro can keep in his skull.

 

[Momentosis]

If it shows anything, it shows hardcore MMA fans will watch ANYTHING Francis does. His team probably pulls up these threads in meetings and boasts the eyes he would bring to PFL or ONE or whatever....

You mean like the hundred posters? There's not many people posting in these threads.

 

[kingghidrah]

Nganno is playing the long game and he will win on this

He must be playing a reallllly long game then