"Francis asked for 30 million" (he didn't)

[NoSmilez]

Rampage made 5 million in 2007 against Chuck. I don't think Francis is making that little after PPV. I think he wants a lot more of the pie. His whole situation is messed up. He hired a manager that was a former UFC employee turned into agent for a rival company. Francis just got rid of him and started doing the negotiations by himself.

Honestly Francis isn't a needle mover like Mcgregor. You can argue that Mcgregor took those fights for low pay to advertise proper 12.

 

[L0ki]

Real effort to tarnish his reputation – with a bunch of threads started first thing on Monday of fight week for Jones and Gane. Guess the UFC PR team doesn't work weekends.

Extra smart to keep the conversation on Ngannou, taking it away from Jones and Gane on their fight week. Sounds like something Dana would do.

The amount of sway the media has....

it's in MMA sure, but it really transcends into pretty much all elements of life.

We're gonna need more stringent approaches and media is going to need to be held more accountable, especially shitty reporting like the articles covering that screenshot.

 

[joeson]

Is your trolling style just to use ad hominem attacks in all your posts?

That's not part of your script. You're not being paid to adlib. Stay on script! Fuckin juniors.

 

[Izzysexboyfriend]

Well, one thing is for certain, he asked for more than the UFC was willing to give and was going to make the most money the UFC has ever paid a guy to fight.

I saw a lot of talk that he turned down $8 million to fight Jones but wanted other things also.

Francis wanted 50% of the company, $30 mil a fight and health insurance

 

[Ornife]

Francis wanted 50% of the company, $30 mil a fight and health insurance

Further proof that Big Francis criminally undervalues his own worth. Pay the man triple that!

 

[TempleoftheDog]

The Francis bashing is.....

The whole basis for that story is a stupid screenshot of someone claiming to be Frank's friend and asking for 30 million.

That's it.

Fucking thing could be fake, we don't know whose number that was, screenshots are easy af to edit, etc.

The idea of a fighter just having some random friend negotiate on his behalf is laughable.

Ngannou is fucking awesome.

Seems to want to do good, monster in the ring, and keeps it as humble as a guy in his position can.

Ngannou is every bit as dishonest as Jones, and Dana. I’ve proven it over and over in here…

 

[Lee_]

Worth for the most part can easily be objective. It is based on how much money you are projected to make the company.

Problem is, there is no objective way to calculate that value because there are way too many variables, which would get into subjectivity. So no, you cannot measure that objectively in the case of a fighter, not accurately anyway.

 

[wildchild88]

Francis seems like a diva and while I doubt he asked for $30 million (unless he is the single most delusional athlete in history), I have no doubt he asked for at least twice what he's actually worth.

It's called negotiation, start high..

 

[Sean_wongster_wongmastter]

Problem is, there is no objective way to calculate that value because there are way too many variables, which would get into subjectivity. So no, you cannot measure that objectively in the case of a fighter, not accurately anyway.

It's hard to measure anything accurately, but past history PPV sales is most likely a future indicator. Also projections on future profits while they can be off, are generally fairly accurate. It's rare for a analyst to be off by more than a few % points on predicting a companies quarterly earnings. UFC predictions on potential PPV buys are generally always within a 5-10% margin of error, I've never seen some abnormally high misprediction on revenues a event will generate.

I don't doubt the UFC has a formula for how much Francis will make them, and pay him based off that formula.

 

[joeson]

The amount of sway the media has....

it's in MMA sure, but it really transcends into pretty much all elements of life.

We're gonna need more stringent approaches and media is going to need to be held more accountable, especially shitty reporting like the articles covering that screenshot.

I don't believe for a second that all of these posts and posters are organic. Social media has been used to influence people's opinion for years. Everything from dishonest reviews to a bunch of posts from "random fans" that all have the same opinion. It's standard PR agency fare.

 

[wildchild88]

Nothing would make me happier than seeing Francis get a big bag of money

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

Yes, we all know the UFC likes to pay fighters what they are worth. I'm not sure of the numbers but a HW champion in boxing makes 20-30 million a fight. Let's say Dana wanted to pay Francis 2 or 3 million a fight. Guess who pockets the 17-27 million difference?

The good guys putting in performance institutes world wide to provide decades of talent to entertain you and I. Yes! The ones giving the children of impoverished nations a shot at going from hood to Hollywood.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Francis wanted 50% of the company, $30 mil a fight and health insurance

Damn Bernie bro.

Worth is subjective.

He's the most exciting HW the UFC has ever had and is undoubtedly baddest man on the planet.

IMO, Boner Gane isn't that great. It's Jon vs. the guy Frank beat with one leg.

Conor made 100 million and he was as good as Francis is for all of nine seconds.

Hopefully, there will be a day when Frank does get over 100 mil.

He doesn't sell PPVs, simple as. I don't know how some of you can be here so long and not realize that the sway a fighter has in negotiation isn't based on his record or how good he looks doing it, it's his marketability and how much he sells. Conor made $100 million because he sold a billion and he's an infinitely better negotiator and promoter than Francis could ever hope to become.

Yes, we all know the UFC likes to pay fighters what they are worth. I'm not sure of the numbers but a HW champion in boxing makes 20-30 million a fight. Let's say Dana wanted to pay Francis 2 or 3 million a fight. Guess who pockets the 17-27 million difference?

He deserves to be paid $30 million when he generates at most ~500k buys? Are you guys starting to see the issue in logic here? $70/PPV x 500k generates $35 million. Now that's only PPV, not counting live gate, but PPVs are the lions share of revenue generation for the UFC, regardless of how many TUF guys you see in branded shirts walking around your upscale gyms, live gates bring maybe $5 million high end. Boxing PPVs =/= Frank's PPVs

 

[Fioretti]

Yes, we all know the UFC likes to pay fighters what they are worth. I'm not sure of the numbers but a HW champion in boxing makes 20-30 million a fight. Let's say Dana wanted to pay Francis 2 or 3 million a fight. Guess who pockets the 17-27 million difference?

Why do you think they're generating the same amount of revenue? That's what they mean by "worth" - the amount of money they generate.

 

[flowoftruth]

Where have you been bro this is all over the whatsapp groups i thought sherdoggers are better informed better delete yo account homie

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

The highest selling HW championship fight makes around that much, Francis doesn't generate anywhere near those PPV numbers.

Dana doesn't let the big boys earn big money. Look at Anthony Joshua or even guys like Deontay Wilder or Usyk.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/box...istory-boxing-record/ud718ierzufs7wplx0gqoz8w

 

[sabretitan]

The Lewis fight showed francis' colors.... Then he he went on the greatest hw terror/tear in ufc history. I just think he has been through a lot and wants to cash in for him and his famx future. Hard to hate on that

 

[podsox]

Worth is subjective.

He's the most exciting HW the UFC has ever had and is undoubtedly baddest man on the planet.

IMO, Boner Gane isn't that great. It's Jon vs. the guy Frank beat with one leg.

Conor made 100 million and he was as good as Francis is for all of nine seconds.

Hopefully, there will be a day when Frank does get over 100 mil.

Most exciting heavy ever…. Had to lay and pray to beat not great gane… ok

 

[Fioretti]

Dana doesn't let the big boys earn big money. Look at Anthony Joshua or even guys like Deontay Wilder or Usyk.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/box...istory-boxing-record/ud718ierzufs7wplx0gqoz8w

"20x more than his first HW title shot" - 7 years ago.

 

[Ripp0ntare]

sounds like wishful thinking on OP's part