Elections For Canadians (and sure, Americans and others can chime in): Is this a good reason to vote Liberal in the upcoming Canada election?

Poilievre
Gushing over crowd sizes is a weak look. Then faking smile on top of it. Plus, they are debunking his numbers. 15k would be great if true. I was at the raptor game last night and there was just under 20k.

Lying about rally sizes is even worse than gushing over fake numbers.
but The Energy!

OP should rename this to “Official Poilievre Sulking Thread”

Trump’s shitshow of a first few months screwed PP over, and then Carney boxes him out. It’s all for the best, because just like Harper was a shitty clone of George W Bush, Pierre is a shitty clone of Donald Trump. Wrong guy at the wrong time.
 
Gushing over crowd sizes is a weak look. Then faking smile on top of it. Plus, they are debunking his numbers. 15k would be great if true. I was at the raptor game last night and there was just under 20k.

Lying about rally sizes is even worse than gushing over fake numbers.
They aren't debunked at all, I was there the numbers are real. You should be embarrassed, there is plenty of evidence online from the THOUSANDS of people there but none of that matters apparently unless the media says so.
 
They aren't debunked at all, I was there the numbers are real. You should be embarrassed, there is plenty of evidence online from the THOUSANDS of people there but none of that matters apparently unless the media says so.
Debunked. It’s not even worth arguing. 15 k is a lot of people. The rcmp was asked how they calculated 8-10k and they said they went of attendee reports. Media debunked the lpc and cpc reports of crowd size. Not sure why you are taking it personally.
 
Debunked. It’s not even worth arguing. 15 k is a lot of people. The rcmp was asked how they calculated 8-10k and they said they went of attendee reports. Media debunked the lpc and cpc reports of crowd size. Not sure why you are taking it personally.
because I was there and I know this debunking is a lie
 
Ok. People are terrible judges of actual crowd sizes. Biases creep in and make you exaggerate.
The article post debunking this claimed there was 1500 people there, I work in live music, working shows over 1500 hundreds of times, I easily saw that many people on my walk from the parking lot to the venue. From my reference ten times that seems pretty accurate.
 
How will Carney be "tough on Trump" when he can't even fire his own dishonest and incompetent people. We're fucked.

 
Polls showing millennials / gen z are leaning Conservative; while Xellenials, gen x are leaning liberal seems off. Although the last full exit polling canada had (2011) showed Conservaties having the youngest base.

I'm also questioning polls showing conservatives 2nd in Quebec
 
Polls showing millennials / gen z are leaning Conservative; while Xellenials, gen x are leaning liberal seems off. Although the last full exit polling canada had (2011) showed Conservaties having the youngest base.

I'm also questioning polls showing conservatives 2nd in Quebec

I'm pretty sure many Gen-Xers and all boomers will vote Liberal out of fear of anything other than the status quo.
 
How will Carney be "tough on Trump" when he can't even fire his own dishonest and incompetent people. We're fucked.


You can pretty much be sure that the Liberals pay the same political consultants that Dems had for the 2024 election.
 
Polls showing millennials / gen z are leaning Conservative; while Xellenials, gen x are leaning liberal seems off. Although the last full exit polling canada had (2011) showed Conservaties having the youngest base.

I'm also questioning polls showing conservatives 2nd in Quebec
Could be that the young people are being influenced by the ringing endorsements for PP from Matt Gaetz, Ann coulter, Elon musk, joe Rogan, Alex jones and Conrad black to say the least. These maga grifters and ex cons know a good grift when they see it. But pp isn’t maga. Haha
 
How will Carney be "tough on Trump" when he can't even fire his own dishonest and incompetent people. We're fucked.

If this doesn't show the whole Pierre=Trump think is manufactured by the Liberals I don't know what does, I genuinely feel sorry for anyone dumb enough to fall for this crap.
Could be that the young people are being influenced by the ringing endorsements for PP from Matt Gaetz, Ann coulter, Elon musk, joe Rogan, Alex jones and Conrad black to say the least. These maga grifters and ex cons know a good grift when they see it. But pp isn’t maga. Haha
Except for this guy.


Other than Rogan and Musk most young people have no idea who any of those people. What a stupid argument.

If anyone is trying to make America great again, it's the guy who moved his business into the US from Canada, advocating for pipelines to be shut down in Canada while building them in the US.
 
If this doesn't show the whole Pierre=Trump think is manufactured by the Liberals I don't know what does, I genuinely feel sorry for anyone dumb enough to fall for this crap.

Except for this guy.


Other than Rogan and Musk most young people have no idea who any of those people. What a stupid argument.

If anyone is trying to make America great again, it's the guy who moved his business into the US from Canada, advocating for pipelines to be shut down in Canada while building them in the US.
They probably don’t know black, but the rest they know for sure.
 
Could be that the young people are being influenced by the ringing endorsements for PP from Matt Gaetz, Ann coulter, Elon musk, joe Rogan, Alex jones and Conrad black to say the least. These maga grifters and ex cons know a good grift when they see it. But pp isn’t maga. Haha
You pay way too much attention to Americans and American politics.

I think young people realize they have been robbed of the typical Canadian life of prosperity and home ownership. My 19 year old zooby lesbian neice is voting conservative. She doesn't know anything about politics but knows that her paycheque is dominated by income tax, and huge CPP and EI contributions and she can't afford anything. I guess it is because she doesn't watch Canadian news that is dominated with American politics. She is voting conservative based on her own personal experiences and observations.
 
Could be that the young people are being influenced by the ringing endorsements for PP from Matt Gaetz, Ann coulter, Elon musk, joe Rogan, Alex jones and Conrad black to say the least. These maga grifters and ex cons know a good grift when they see it. But pp isn’t maga. Haha

Age 18-34 vote conservative in 2011 (last time we did dynamic exit polling) so this could / probably is just an extension / continuation
 
I'm pretty sure many Gen-Xers and all boomers will vote Liberal out of fear of anything other than the status quo.

Gen x is weird as fuck...that should be the most conservative base. Although canadian pollsters don't distinguish between likely / registered voters so I don't know how modelers are weighting their probabilities.
 
You pay way too much attention to Americans and American politics.

I think young people realize they have been robbed of the typical Canadian life of prosperity and home ownership. My 19 year old zooby lesbian neice is voting conservative. She doesn't know anything about politics but knows that her paycheque is dominated by income tax, and huge CPP and EI contributions and she can't afford anything. I guess it is because she doesn't watch Canadian news that is dominated with American politics. She is voting conservative based on her own personal experiences and observations.

"Liberals been sucking this country is going down the shitter I'm gonna vote Conservatives next time"....10 years of Harper

"Conservatives been sucking this country is going down the shitter I'm gonna vote Liberals next time"...10 years of Trudeau

Rinse and repeat, country keeps going down the shitter because both parties are bought out by corporations and donors who suck up the gdp and juice it with real estate and foreign investment/money laundering...it's just how politics go lol.
 
Carney has denounced his party members for sneaking into Conservative rallies planting paraphernalia trying to tie conservative to American MAGA politics.

So if you are going to condemn your party members for this democratic infraction shouldn't you by same logic condemn you entire election campaigned centered around the same argument ?

Or could it be that has been the plan all along regardless or whether it was true or not ? What's that China has been working on this for years alongside the Liberals ?


How does it feel to be a Liberal voter and know that China does your thinking for you ?
 
The election is 2 weeks away, and we still don't have all the parties' full platforms. Now, I get the Liberals might be scrambling hard to put theirs together, but why isn't the Conservatives or NDP's ready? Those two parties have had years to get ready for this, this is shit they should have been shouting for weeks. To me, that's a big red flag.

Starting to feel like the Conservatives were so confident the Liberals were so done, they came in on autopilot mode thinking they could coast. Or is this some kind of new strategy?

"We're gonna do these good things, huge things, things that's you've never seen before...after we get elected, but we can't tell you what it is first. We're going to make Canada great again! Because it's ONLY great when we're in charge. The Government of Harper told me so."

Both the USA and Canada are experiencing major identity crises, and it's bringing out the fucking worst in all of us. And sitting here pretending it isn't happening is a recipe for disaster. But I also think the US having their election first did help put things into perspective for a lot of people here in Canada.

If I vote Liberal, it is because that party is putting a candidate forward that I think is better qualified to sit down at the table with other world leaders. It's not my fault the Conservative party made a poor choice as party leader.

Why am I voting for a guy who really understands money and has to entertain the guy down south who thinks the world can be bought or sold?

Fuck knows, I must be crazy I guess.

Our political system is broken, and partisan politics will never fix it. I think the last PM who really actually gave a shit about this country was Jean Chretien. And just to appease all the Conservative posters... there's a fella over there in Newfoundland... Danny Williams. He would have made a damn fine PM. I would have voted for that guy. But not PP.

That Jeff Daniel's Newsroom speech? Sadly, a lot of days it feels like that applies to this side of the border too now.
 
but why isn't the Conservatives ready?
PP expected a lay up with Trudope in power.
But Liberals pulled this

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