Elections For Canadians (and sure, Americans and others can chime in): Is this a good reason to vote Liberal in the upcoming Canada election?

[Ares Black]

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Uh oh. Conservatives should be sweating...completely unprecedented swing from 90% favored to win to now probably in the 40% range

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-campaign-civil-war-party-1.7497029

The current chance of the CPC winning is 2%

 

[Ares Black]

Yes.

Doesn't change the fact that Poilievre went from a landslide victory to now wondering if he'll win or not.

It's now a close race for both parties and that was my point. Poilievre's slogans and axe the tax isn't gonna cut it anymore, Trudeau is long gone at this point and evidently Trump changed things big time in favor for the Liberal Party.

 

[Ares Black]

The decision to go far left again is driven by their hatred of Trump?

The Liberal party is not in any way far left. Especially under Mark Carney. In many ways he's more conservative than Poilievre.

I would hope they vote in their own best interests domestically and ignore Trump's rhetoric.

It's not just rhetoric. He has literally declared a trade war on us.

But I watched as many cheered when the trucker protests were broken up, bank accounts frozen, and authoritarianism rose.

You didn't understand what you were watching.

 

[Ares Black]

What a horrible take on PP being weaker than Carney. Poilievre is yoked in comprison lol. Carney guaranteed got bullied his whole life.

Carney played hockey growing up and went to Harvard.

Poilievre is a colossal dork who has never had a real job. His makeover is hilarious.

 

[Stoic1]

The Liberal party is not in any way far left. Especially under Mark Carney. In many ways he's more conservative than Poilievre.

It's not just rhetoric. He has literally declared a trade war on us.

You didn't understand what you were watching.

Are you Canadian?

 

[Ares Black]

Are you Canadian?

I can walk to Parliament Hill in ten minutes.

 

[Andy Capp]

(And there are more. But I don't disagree with you on the trajectory of the country under Trudeau.)

That idiot means the first PM who didn't already have a seat in the House of Commons. But he's wrong about that too

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can-someone-be-prime-minister-if-they-are-not-a-member-of-parliament-1.7430116

"There have been a number of instances in the past where a prime minister didn't hold a seat in the House of Commons and there are also recent comparisons to be made at the provincial level."

"When John Turner walked into the House of Commons for the first time as the leader of the governing Liberals in 1984, he had to sit in the visitors' gallery.

"Turner had previously been an MP and minister in the governments of Lester B. Pearson and Pierre Trudeau. But after a falling out with Trudeau, Turner vacated his seat in 1976 to go work in the private sector."

Former prime minister William Lyon Mackenzie King holds the record for being Canada's longest-serving prime minister — but he wasn't always an MP during that time.

Twice King lost his seat in elections where his Liberals were able to form government and he ran in byelections to re-enter the House in both cases.

Even though the Conservatives won the most seats in the 1925 election, King was able to form a minority government with the backing of the Progressive party.

One of the seats the Conservatives won in that election was King's riding of North York. The then-prime minister ran in and won a byelection in the Saskatchewan riding of Prince Albert a few months later.


King also lost his seat in the 1945 election, his last as prime minister. He would again have to run in a byelection as the sitting prime minister in order to regain a seat in the House."


Fuckin' ignorant young'uns. How many times do they have to make themselves look stupid before they finally learn to just shut the fuck up and listen?

 

[rikibobby]

Carney played hockey growing up and went to Harvard.

Poilievre is a colossal dork who has never had a real job. His makeover is hilarious.

Carney is a 90 year old frail pussy. My 90 year old mom would take him to the cleaners. That Poilievre would clean him, today's poilievre would left high kick him Ala crocop

 

[Andy Capp]

Carney is a 90 year old frail pussy. My 90 year old mom would take him to the cleaners. That Poilievre would clean him, today's poilievre would left high kick him Ala crocop

lol sad

 

[rikibobby]

lol sad

He is. And his temper is starting to come out. He looked really shaken while standing behind the Liberal MP who openly encouraged election interference and ate copious amounts of shit from all media sources while repeating his total confidence in the MP. He got absolutely skewered lst night on CTV. He even forgot to condem chinese election interference. Minor gaff.

Poilievre will get that mask off in debates. Even if he loses, we'll see what we are in for if Carney gets in.

 

[Andy Capp]

He is. And his temper is starting to come out. He looked really shaken while standing behind the Liberal MP who openly encouraged election interference and ate copious amounts of shit from all media sources while repeating his total confidence in the MP. He got absolutely skewered lst night on CTV. He even forgot to condem chinese election interference. Minor gaff.

Poilievre will get that mask off in debates. Even if he loses, we'll see what we are in for if Carney gets in.

I guess you haven't heard the latest news:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/cassidy-villeneuve-resigns-1.7479340

Edit: I note that when searching for this story with Microsoft Edge it's completely buried. It's also buried on the CBC website for some odd reason. But a google search it turned up immediately.

 

[rikibobby]

I guess you haven't heard the latest news:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/cassidy-villeneuve-resigns-1.7479340

Yep, that's on the same level lol.

 

[HereticBD]

Whomis the 51st state guy? I must have missed a headline.

Carney backed up a candidate openly condoning Chinese election interference And turning a Canadian citizen and political candidate over to China for a bounty. At least now we don't have to listen to idiots spam the "security clearance" false argument. That pales in comparison to Carney's endorsement. The shine is rubbing off nicely. So early in the campaign and his placement as the head of our country.

Such an odd own goal. You'd think it would be easy to just denounce the guy, or at least feign ignorance and not openly endorse him. Think the guy just stepped down anyways, so what good did it do to endorse him? Very strange.

 

[rikibobby]

I guess you haven't heard the latest news:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/cassidy-villeneuve-resigns-1.7479340

Edit: I note that when searching for this story with Microsoft Edge it's completely buried. It's also buried on the CBC website for some odd reason. But a google search it turned up immediately.

It's a non-story. This will get zero traction. An idiot candidate who has not been in the party like the board challenged them stupidly and didn't get her way and quit. Happens all the time. How many riding don't have liberal candidates yet? 30? 40?

 

[Andy Capp]

It's a non-story. This will get zero traction. An idiot candidate who has not been in the party like the board challenged them stupidly and didn't get her way and quit. Happens all the time. How many riding don't have liberal candidates yet? 30? 40?

Weirdly, it's hilarious and sad at the same time that you claimed what the Liberal candidate did is worse than calling for the murder of the Prime Minister, and then respond with this.

Way to shift the goal posts from your earlier comments to "How many candidates do they even have, anyway?" The lack of candidates is an entirely different issue stemming from Trudeau staying on far past when he should have stepped down. That was selfish and stupid on his part. Even so, I don't know which ridings have empty slates but it's likely the majority of them are conservative strongholds anyway. We'll just have to wait and see how the election goes to find out, hm?

Both candidates said unacceptable shit and both GTFO. You're right; both of them are non-stories in the grand scheme of things.

So, let's STFU about that and get back to the thread topic. How do you feel about Poilievre resurrecting failed Reagan-era trickle-down economic policy by offering tax cuts for the rich while cutting services? Sound like anyone else we know?

 

[rikibobby]

Weirdly, it's hilarious and sad at the same time that you claimed what the Liberal candidate did is worse than calling for the murder of the Prime Minister, and then respond with this.

Way to shift the goal posts from your earlier comments to "How many candidates do they even have, anyway?" The lack of candidates is an entirely different issue stemming from Trudeau staying on far past when he should have stepped down. That was selfish and stupid on his part. Even so, I don't know which ridings have empty slates but it's likely the majority of them are conservative strongholds anyway. We'll just have to wait and see how the election goes to find out, hm?

Both candidates said unacceptable shit and both GTFO. You're right; both of them are non-stories in the grand scheme of things.

So, let's STFU about that and get back to the thread topic. How do you feel about Poilievre resurrecting failed Reagan-era trickle-down economic policy by offering tax cuts for the rich while cutting services? Sound like anyone else we know?

I clicked your link and it brought me to a story about the nippissing PC candidate stepping down. I didn't see anything about the candidate that was FIRED by PP for his heinous comments.

Did I miss that part of the article or did you link the wrong article? Honestly I was not referring to the Trudeau hanging one. I was referring g to the stepping down of the lady from nippissing.

Even still, PP fired his candidate. Zero support. That is the right move.

Services created with printed $ must be cut. I support it 100%. Fire all of the 40% federal employee increase added under Trudeau. Eliminate the beuracracy, don't need that revenue. Balance this shitshow ASAP.

 

[Lycandroid]

So, let's STFU about that and get back to the thread topic. How do you feel about Poilievre resurrecting failed Reagan-era trickle-down economic policy by offering tax cuts for the rich while cutting services? Sound like anyone else we know?

15 % cut on income tax for everyone, allowing seniors to earn up to 34,000 tax would be huge for the middle class.

How do you feel about the fact the Liberals have been ballooning the deficit ? How do you fix that without cuts ?

 

[therealdope]

How do you feel about the fact the Liberals have been ballooning the deficit ? How do you fix that without cuts ?

What are you stupid? The answer is obviously magic fairy pixie dust.

 

[koquerelle]

I don't trust Carney. Brookfield did some shady shit with Kushner.

 

[Andy Capp]

15 % cut on income tax for everyone, allowing seniors to earn up to 34,000 tax would be huge for the middle class.

How do you feel about the fact the Liberals have been ballooning the deficit ? How do you fix that without cuts ?

You sure as fuck don't fix a deficit with huge tax cuts. I have no issue with letting poor seniors earn money without paying tax--the loss of tax revenue would be insignificant, but rich boomers don't need it, so it should be targeted only at people who do. Further, a blanket 15% cut helps the richest people the most and, wait for it, lemme do the math here, that's an instant 15% reduction in government revenue. Do you think a country with a budget deficit and GDP growth stalled by American tariffs can afford that?

Honest to Jesus, you poor soul; did your mother drop you on your head?