Elections For Canadians (and sure, Americans and others can chime in): Is this a good reason to vote Liberal in the upcoming Canada election?

[Damien Karras]

You are aware Carney was an economic advisor for Trudeau for 5 years. His economic policies have already driven us towards the edge of the cliff how could you possibly want more of that ?

Same cabinet, same government, same policies, same results. You are fooling yourself if you think you will get anything different from Carney. Why would he enact policies opposing ones he himself advocates for both in his role as economic advisor and touted in his book. He is not for the people.

Carney was an advisor under Trudeau during the pandemic and Canada's macro numbers were 2nd "least bad" in the world with the USA being first. A lot of the problems we are facing now as a country (overreliance on American economic trade and military protection, failure to capitalize on our natural resources, insufficient housing policy) are unrelated to him in terms of the timeline, and go all the way back to the Harper era.

This election is about two candidates: Carney and Poilievre. Poilievre has been a politician all his life, but he has an unlikeability problem, he's not hammering on key ballot questions and he doesn't have much of a political career in terms of introducing bills. He's done nothing of substance in any of his cabinet positions, and has never even introduced any piece of legislation in the HoC. The guy is all talk and Canadians are privy to it

 

[BjPenn2017]

lol liberals sewered the Canadian economy and there leader did such a shitty job that mark carney became canadas first unelected prime minister

Instead of selling canada to the states he wants to sell it to the fucking garbage EU

 

[Lycandroid]

Carney was an advisor under Trudeau during the pandemic and Canada's macro numbers were 2nd "least bad" in the world with the USA being first. A lot of the problems we are facing now as a country (overreliance on American economic trade and military protection, failure to capitalize on our natural resources, insufficient housing policy) are unrelated to him in terms of the timeline, and go all the way back to the Harper era.

This election is about two candidates: Carney and Poilievre. Poilievre has been a politician all his life, but he has an unlikeability problem, he's not hammering on key ballot questions and he doesn't have much of a political career in terms of introducing bills. He's done nothing of substance in any of his cabinet positions, and has never even introduced any piece of legislation in the HoC. The guy is all talk and Canadians are privy to it

Why do you think Carney, with the same cabinet is going to do any different than the previous Liberals ?

Carney was also advisor after Covid where our debt exploded, this having nothing to do with covid.

The problems we have as a country are unrelated to him ? Could you be anymore of a clueless uninformed voter ? Read his book Values. There he doubles down on all the knee capping policies of the Liberals. not only does he support shutting down our own resource sector because of green regulations only to build them in other countries taking money and jobs out of the country. He has had an active role in doing so. Brookfield was a major player in buying up residential units and commercial properties sold off during covid when owners were squeezed out because of lockdowns, then going and jacking up prices.

You can expect another decade and no economic growth, mass immigration, skyrocketing crime. A housing and cost of living crisis that never gets better. An opiod epidemic that can only be defeated by perpetuating the cycle of addiction indefinitely.

Pierre has been hitting all of the key ballot points for years. The problem was that Trump hit all those same points and just won an election. Now the election has turned to Trump being the main focus, Pierre has been unfairly linked to Trump for supporting these same issues.

Canadians have been brainwashed to think Pierre will fold to Trump because when in reality Carney has made himself and his buddies rich off folding to Trump and folded to Trump on his first interaction with him.

Our country cannot continue another through another Liberal term. Think hard before you vote for the Liberals, you are selling out the future of every Canadian by doing so, if you can't see this you need to wake up.

 

[jeremyemilio]

lol liberals sewered the Canadian economy and there leader did such a shitty job that mark carney became canadas first unelected prime minister

Instead of selling canada to the states he wants to sell it to the fucking garbage EU

(And there are more. But I don't disagree with you on the trajectory of the country under Trudeau.)

 

[Deaths Head]

What are you afraid Trump will do?

What won’t he do is the point . If you don’t have any ideas of what that might imply it means you are either pro Trump or don’t really think this topic is important enough not to have some idea . You do realize you have plenty of material by now right ? Lol

 

[Deaths Head]

Show us on the doll where the bad orange man touched you.

No one on here can but I’m sure one of the at least 26 women that have publicly accused Trump, of rape, kissing, and groping without consent; looking under women's skirts; and walking in on naked teenage pageant contestants.

He’s openly admitted to forcibly touching females and bragged about it maybe you can find one of those people to show you ?

 

[helax]

Listening to Poilievre basically anoint himself the second coming of Christ tells me what I needed to know. I mean how else can he deliver on fixing literally everything wrong with Canada? Kudos to him for being able to keep a straight face while he speaks

 

[Damien Karras]

Why do you think Carney, with the same cabinet is going to do any different than the previous Liberals ?

Carney was also advisor after Covid where our debt exploded, this having nothing to do with covid.

The problems we have as a country are unrelated to him ? Could you be anymore of a clueless uninformed voter ? Read his book Values. There he doubles down on all the knee capping policies of the Liberals. not only does he support shutting down our own resource sector because of green regulations only to build them in other countries taking money and jobs out of the country. He has had an active role in doing so. Brookfield was a major player in buying up residential units and commercial properties sold off during covid when owners were squeezed out because of lockdowns, then going and jacking up prices.

You can expect another decade and no economic growth, mass immigration, skyrocketing crime. A housing and cost of living crisis that never gets better. An opiod epidemic that can only be defeated by perpetuating the cycle of addiction indefinitely.

Pierre has been hitting all of the key ballot points for years. The problem was that Trump hit all those same points and just won an election. Now the election has turned to Trump being the main focus, Pierre has been unfairly linked to Trump for supporting these same issues.

Canadians have been brainwashed to think Pierre will fold to Trump because when in reality Carney has made himself and his buddies rich off folding to Trump and folded to Trump on his first interaction with him.

Our country cannot continue another through another Liberal term. Think hard before you vote for the Liberals, you are selling out the future of every Canadian by doing so, if you can't see this you need to wake up.

Lol if you knew what I did for a living you wouldn't call me a clueless and uninformed voter. My clients (corporations) rely on me to give them updates, insights and analysis on the current election. I'm careful with what I shared online so to not give away who I am, so I stick to neutral talking points.

Your talking points are felt and shared by a minority of Canadians in this time. Carney does favor long-term sustainability over short term gains to bolster a stronger future for our country, but that doesn't mean handstrapping economic progress at all cost, rather it's about being mindful of the impacts of short-term decision making, and moving toward a values based thinking model.

I'm not sure you can predict what Carney's impact will be on the economy. As an advisor to the former PM, his role was to advise. He didn't have his hand on the economic levers. In fact, one of the first things he did once Trudeau stepped down was to get rid of the carbon tax, calling it divisive and saying it wasn't meeting its intended goals. Your fear mongering of Carney is based on very little.

Pierre has not been hitting the main ballot points, and I fear it's too late for him to insert himself in the debate as a person with any credibility. The election is about Trump, and who can stand up to Trump, and who can usher our economy into a prosperous future. Would you rather vote for one of the top economists in the world who had advised world leaders during major crises (Covid, Brexit, Housing crisis,) or the guy who had never even done his job of a politician other than use 3 word slogans repeatedly?

If this election is about change, which it is, the outsider (Carney) is proposing change inside the the incumbent party. And the PM always sets the tone on policy. Poilievre came out with some interesting policy ideas lately, notably on increasing the TFSA contribution as long as you invest in Canadian companies, but he's not addressing Trump, nor is he addressing his likeability problem.

I'd advise you to look at what is happening and stop focusing on the way you see it. Right now, Carney is two horse lengths ahead of Poilievre right out of the gate and is increasing his momentum while The CPC jockey is struggling to have control over his horse (in-party fighting). Again, as I tell my clients, anything can happen and the election is far from being called, but you can't deny Carney has the advantage right now.

 

[Lycandroid]

Listening to Poilievre basically anoint himself the second coming of Christ tells me what I needed to know. I mean how else can he deliver on fixing literally everything wrong with Canada? Kudos to him for being able to keep a straight face while he speaks

Lol if you knew what I did for a living you wouldn't call me a clueless and uninformed voter. My clients (corporations) rely on me to give them updates, insights and analysis on the current election. I'm careful with what I shared online so to not give away who I am, so I stick to neutral talking points.

Your talking points are felt and shared by a minority of Canadians in this time. Carney does favor long-term sustainability over short term gains to bolster a stronger future for our country, but that doesn't mean handstrapping economic progress at all cost, rather it's about being mindful of the impacts of short-term decision making, and moving toward a values based thinking model.

I'm not sure you can predict what Carney's impact will be on the economy. As an advisor to the former PM, his role was to advise. He didn't have his hand on the economic levers. In fact, one of the first things he did once Trudeau stepped down was to get rid of the carbon tax, calling it divisive and saying it wasn't meeting its intended goals. Your fear mongering of Carney is based on very little.

Pierre has not been hitting the main ballot points, and I fear it's too late for him to insert himself in the debate as a person with any credibility. The election is about Trump, and who can stand up to Trump, and who can usher our economy into a prosperous future. Would you rather vote for one of the top economists in the world who had advised world leaders during major crises (Covid, Brexit, Housing crisis,) or the guy who had never even done his job of a politician other than use 3 word slogans repeatedly?

If this election is about change, which it is, the outsider (Carney) is proposing change inside the the incumbent party. And the PM always sets the tone on policy. Poilievre came out with some interesting policy ideas lately, notably on increasing the TFSA contribution as long as you invest in Canadian companies, but he's not addressing Trump, nor is he addressing his likeability problem.

I'd advise you to look at what is happening and stop focusing on the way you see it. Right now, Carney is two horse lengths ahead of Poilievre right out of the gate and is increasing his momentum while The CPC jockey is struggling to have control over his horse (in-party fighting). Again, as I tell my clients, anything can happen and the election is far from being called, but you can't deny Carney has the advantage right now.

Good luck to your misinformed clients then. I really suggest you read Carney's book Values. If the world he envisions in that book comes to fruition Canada will be in serious trouble. It is not fear mongering it is the mans own words.

He wants net zero he supports the century initiative, he supported all the anti pipeline bills, can't think of a better way to handstrap the economy.

We can predict his impact on the economy when we look at his advisor role. Freeland has went into great detail how closely Carney worked with regard to policy it was a brag at the time.

Carney failed in his role during all 3 of those crises in what world should he get another chance ? His time in the UK was the biggest failure of them all, why is it that nobody in the UK has anything good to say about his time in office ? Why would the Liberals want hime ? Because he is corrupt and malleable that's why he has been thrust into this role.

How can you be an outside while being an advisor to the government for 5 years and having family ties to multiple members of the government ?

 

[rikibobby]

Pierre has been hitting all of the key ballot points for years. The problem was that Trump hit all those same points and just won an election. Now the election has turned to Trump being the main focus, Pierre has been unfairly linked to Trump for supporting these same isissues.

Bingo. Pierre has been saying the same thing all along. Liberals want all focus on Trump.

 

[Damien Karras]

Good luck to your misinformed clients then. I really suggest you read Carney's book Values. If the world he envisions in that book comes to fruition Canada will be in serious trouble. It is not fear mongering it is the mans own words.

He wants net zero he supports the century initiative, he supported all the anti pipeline bills, can't think of a better way to handstrap the economy.

We can predict his impact on the economy when we look at his advisor role. Freeland has went into great detail how closely Carney worked with regard to policy it was a brag at the time.

Carney failed in his role during all 3 of those crises in what world should he get another chance ? His time in the UK was the biggest failure of them all, why is it that nobody in the UK has anything good to say about his time in office ? Why would the Liberals want hime ? Because he is corrupt and malleable that's why he has been thrust into this role.

How can you be an outside while being an advisor to the government for 5 years and having family ties to multiple members of the government ?

I'm informing my clients by telling them what's happening, as I am doing to you. I am not indulging them in my personal views on what I hope would happen. I'm an informed voter, as a citizen, because my job relies me to consume large swaths of election data and present it to them in a succinct manner and provide analysis, and potential impacts for their respective sectors. That's just part of what I do, by the way.

I've read all your arguments before from other people. Nothing you're saying is novel to me. Unfortunately for you, not enough people are buying that view, the one Poilievre and the CPC are selling. Understanding voting dynamics is crucial in an election, and Poilievre is bent on rehashing the same talking points from ever since he won the leadership race, but the country is not in the same place right now. The first issue on Canadians' minds is affordability, but imbedded in the affordability crisis is the existential threat tariffs are posing. And it seems like voters are perceiving Carney's arrival as LPC leader as a departure of the Trudeau era. He brings economic credibility (I find your take on his success as heads of BoC and Bank of England inaccurate but you're entitled to maintain your CPC talking points), and a calm head to a turbulent time while dealing.

A major part of the Liberal's surge is NDP and Bloc voters switching to LPC because they don't want Poilievre in power. But I will say this, these kind of voters are not solid votes. They can easily sway back to their original party if Carney makes too many missteps. And he's an inexperienced politician so that can still happen, especially as we are just in week 2 of the campaign.

 

[rikibobby]

This election is about two candidates: Carney and Poilievre. Poilievre has been a politician all his life, but he has an unlikeability problem, he's not hammering on key ballot questions and he doesn't have much of a political career in terms of introducing bills. He's done nothing of substance in any of his cabinet positions, and has never even introduced any piece of legislation in the HoC. The guy is all talk and Canadians are privy to it

He literally inroduced a bill in late 2024 to remove the GST from home building up to $50,000, which was shot down by the liberal-NDP coalition. This was less than 6 months ago.

What did the liberals just promise????? To remove the GST on new homes. He brings nothing of substance though. Just talking points (that the liberals are plagiarizing).

I remember you. You are not neutral at all. You are like a lot of liberals pretending that you are not a diehard liberal, but are leaning that way because this Carney guy is the Trump beater and that is #1.

 

[Damien Karras]

He literally inroduced a bill in late 2024 to remove the GST from home building up to $50,000, which was shot down by the liberal-NDP coalition. This was less than 6 months ago.

What did the liberals just promise????? To remove the GST on new homes. He brings nothing of substance though. Just talking points (that the liberals are plagiarizing).

I remember you. You are not neutral at all. You are like a lot of liberals pretending that you are not a diehard liberal, but are leaning that way because this Carney guy is the Trump beater and that is #1.

Nobody is neutral. I voice my opinions here. I don't with my clients. I present them the facts and analysis. It's just 10% of my job, I do more than that, but I was responding to someone who said I am not an informed voter. I think I can say I am.

As for Poilievre, I misspoke, he never passed any bill, he introduced unsuccessfully. He couldn't even do so when the Conservatives had a majority. He refuses to work with other parties to bring the legislation to a point where it would get a majority.

 

[Lycandroid]

I'm informing my clients by telling them what's happening, as I am doing to you. I am not indulging them in my personal views on what I hope would happen. I'm an informed voter, as a citizen, because my job relies me to consume large swaths of election data and present it to them in a succinct manner and provide analysis, and potential impacts for their respective sectors. That's just part of what I do, by the way.

I've read all your arguments before from other people. Nothing you're saying is novel to me. Unfortunately for you, not enough people are buying that view, the one Poilievre and the CPC are selling. Understanding voting dynamics is crucial in an election, and Poilievre is bent on rehashing the same talking points from ever since he won the leadership race, but the country is not in the same place right now. The first issue on Canadians' minds is affordability, but imbedded in the affordability crisis is the existential threat tariffs are posing. And it seems like voters are perceiving Carney's arrival as LPC leader as a departure of the Trudeau era. He brings economic credibility (I find your take on his success as heads of BoC and Bank of England inaccurate but you're entitled to maintain your CPC talking points), and a calm head to a turbulent time while dealing.

A major part of the Liberal's surge is NDP and Bloc voters switching to LPC because they don't want Poilievre in power. But I will say this, these kind of voters are not solid votes. They can easily sway back to their original party if Carney makes too many missteps. And he's an inexperienced politician so that can still happen, especially as we are just in week 2 of the campaign.

By your own admission you are doing a bad job you have a clear liberal bias. Sounds like all your data is coming from the CBC.

You say Pierre is just rehashing old talking points, the country has changed and affordability is now the number one issue.

What world do you live in where that has not been his number #1 issue since day one of him stepping into the leadership role ? All of your reading through political data and you haven't figured that out yet ? Jesus Christ Noveselic start issuing refunds now.

 

[rikibobby]

Nobody is neutral. I voice my opinions here. I don't with my clients. I present them the facts and analysis. It's just 10% of my job, I do more than that, but I was responding to someone who said I am not an informed voter. I think I can say I am.

As for Poilievre, I misspoke, he never passed any bill, he introduced unsuccessfully. He couldn't even do so when the Conservatives had a majority. He refuses to work with other parties to bring the legislation to a point where it would get a majority.

Do you think his reluctance to work with other parties on their bills has anything to do with his hard stance that carbon price is neutering our economy and the fact that every bill introduced by the liberal-ndp coalition had weasel clauses including carbon pricing language?

Also, he can't work with other parties on spending promises that require printed $ to pay for them. It is his whole platform.

You know this.

 

[Damien Karras]

By your own admission you are doing a bad job you have a clear liberal bias. Sounds like all your data is coming from the CBC.

You say Pierre is just rehashing old talking points, the country has changed and affordability is now the number one issue.

What world do you live in where that has not been his number #1 issue since day one of him stepping into the leadership role ? All of your reading through political data and you haven't figured that out yet ? Jesus Christ Noveselic start issuing refunds now.

There is a way to be analytical of elections without injecting bias. The client would not continue receiving my reports if it was biased. By saying CBC poll tracker predicts an 80% chance that the Liberals form a majority government, it's not bias, it's simple reporting. Then giving them the skinny on why voters are shifting Liberal, I'm simply rehashing what's being said by pollsters, and political analysts. I also have my own network in politics (from all the major parties) and the media, from whom I get inside information. These take years to build. I don't really care to explain myself more, nor do I feel the need to prove to you more when all I meant to show to you was that I am not an uninformed voter.

And what I said is that affordability IS the number one issue. It has been before the election and still is today. But Poilievre is running on the idea that 10 years of Liberal governing caused the problems we are having today, but good luck trying to convince Canadians that the biggest threat today is NOT tariffs. If you're in southern Ontario and your job is on the line, you won't care as much about gas prices. Poilievre has not sufficiently pivoted from his original position to address the issues they're concerned with; and with affordability being the main issue, and with the tariffs threat baked into that issue, it takes precedence over Pierre's messaging. I'm not even the one saying this, the fucking pollsters are.

I can always count on Sherdog for being the place where I have arguments with people who miss the point

 

[rearnakedchoke]

It’s says a lot when the fuck Trudeau ilk have been awfully quiet when it comes to the same ire towards the guy who wants us to be a 51st state. They realize they are on the same page as trump and don’t know what to do now. Even PP is still kinda shell shocked over it all. He should be spamming all of the endorsements from Jordan Peterson, joe Rogan, Elon musk etc during this campaign. I wonder why he isn’t????! What a spineless weasel.

 

[therealdope]

Sounds like all your data is coming from the CBC.

Or the other way around. I suspect the Liberals use the same political consultants that the Democrats do. Their tactics are very similar.

 

[rikibobby]

It’s says a lot when the fuck Trudeau ilk have been awfully quiet when it comes to the same ire towards the guy who wants us to be a 51st state. They realize they are on the same page as trump and don’t know what to do now. Even PP is still kinda shell shocked over it all. He should be spamming all of the endorsements from Jordan Peterson, joe Rogan, Elon musk etc during this campaign. I wonder why he isn’t????! What a spineless weasel.

Whomis the 51st state guy? I must have missed a headline.

Carney backed up a candidate openly condoning Chinese election interference And turning a Canadian citizen and political candidate over to China for a bounty. At least now we don't have to listen to idiots spam the "security clearance" false argument. That pales in comparison to Carney's endorsement. The shine is rubbing off nicely. So early in the campaign and his placement as the head of our country.

 

[Ares Black]

That's good. I mean they were supposed to have the biggest landslide victory in modern Canadian history but somehow it's a close race now, it'll be humiliating if they lose it imo.

It's not particularly close TBH. Unless Poilievre makes a miraculous comeback it will be the biggest political collapse in Canadian political history.