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Opinion First country to let advanced AI run its government to make decisions will win?

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First of all, we got a long way to go with AI before it can do that.

I have a lot of family working for the government, both local and federal and it is extremely obvious that the government is hilariously inefficient with our tax dollars. Everyone in my family's job is to get in their family so they can get paid the most amount of money, doing the least amount of work, just waiting til the pension kicks in. There's a lot of corruption involved. For example, and this is from firsthand experience literally seeing it, a family member who works for the city has a lot of say in which company gets hired to do certain jobs. That company gives "kickbacks" to that person to make sure that they get hired and they charge the city an ENORMOUS amount of money to do a simple construction job.

These people want more money in taxes so that they can spend that money on something or someone that will give them a portion of that money back under the table. This is happening in every town, city, state, in the entire country.

An open source AI would be much more efficient in running the country. It will know how much something is worth. We would be able to afford healthcare for everyone.

Of course the politicians will not want to lose their jobs and will fight this tooth and nail. But the first country to do so will rise to the top very, very quickly.
 
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The correct answer, is no.

But you're not wrong about government employee leeches. They're everywhere. And most tell you about it. It's sickening really. I don't even want to know what percentage of working people in my country are government employees.
 
There are just so many stories. Just remember that you are giving these guys a portion of your paycheck every pay day.

my nephew was hired as an irrigation technician for the city. he started off at about 60k a year. but he doesn't go to work. What they do is they take the money from the budget, then they buy parts, plants, pavers, etc.. and they do residential houses. They advertise that they do landscaping but they do the work on government time, using government money to buy eveyrthing they need to do the work.

He "clocks in" at 7 in the morning then goes to a customer's house. The customer tells him they need pavers on their front yard. So he goes and requisitions 2 pallets of pavers from the city, then goes get the pavers, goes back to the house and gets paid THOUSANDS not only by the customer, but by the city and all the parts were free. He makes $4k in one day and YOU as a tax payer pays for it. Your money just renovated some random guy's front yard.
 
some sort of limited AI would be interesting. Human governance is prone to corruption, self interest, war mongering from lobbyist etc..
 
Nah.

Until i know what decision ai self driving car takes in certain situations.

Does it pick veering offroad into a tree to miss a group of kids? Or does it pick the group of kids?

Which is more important the occupent of the car or a family ?

Plus wont takr long for people to target those driverless taxis.


All it takes is a person to stand in front of it and You aint going nowhere. Hand over your wallet phone etc. Sitting duck
 
Of course the politicians will not want to lose their jobs and will fight this tooth and nail. But the first country to do so will rise to the top very, very quickly.
Give the super AI to Somalia and tell me how it will be on the level of Indonesia in 5 years.
 
This is what the central bankers want. CBDCs + AI governance (programmed by them) to control all monetary and fiscal policy, control everything you do, deny you from buying what you want, geofence you into a certain area, and data mine you until they don't need you anymore. You're not a consumer anymore, you're the one being consumed. That's what it means to be ruled by AI: technocratic feudalism where there are two classes of people, the elite who control the AI, and you, the cattle to be controlled. And you guys are so exceptionally, truly exceptionally stupid, that instead of feeling alarm at the prospect of living in Huxley's Brave New World, you think it's oh-so-dandy and convenient. Showcasing government incompetence (Biden, Harris, Trump) is a great way for the central bankers to get what they want, and it's probably why it's happening in the first place. With luck they don't even need to tear down the current system, you do it for them, and then they get to install their system which is degrees of evil worse than anything we've ever seen before.
 
Probably Trump and his VP Elon Musk
 
East Asians are practically AI in my book. So Singapore, Taiwan, East Taiwan, SK.
 
I imagine that a decent chunk of government employees are lazy but lazy government employees aren't even close to being the the main source of wasteful government spending.
 
I imagine that a decent chunk of government employees are lazy but lazy government employees aren't even close to being the the main source of wasteful government spending.

There's 20 million government workers in the country. government average salary is 62k per year, that's 1.24 trillion dollars per year

the government makes 4.3 trillion per year

now besides their salary, how much of the money in government are they stealing like my relatives? they're alreayd getting paid 1/3 of the money the government makes

how much money are they stealing via bullshit government contracts? San Francisco spent 5 million dollars to build one public toilet. An analyst said a private contract would have cost a civilian $18k for the same toilet. Who pocketed the other 4.98 million dollars?

Now multiply that same bullshit project by tens of thousands across the country every year

and we still dont have free healthcare. our infrastructures are crumbling
 
some sort of limited AI would be interesting. Human governance is prone to corruption, self interest, war mongering from lobbyist etc..
Ya, it's not like current AI models aren't trained on data from those very flawed humans we're seeking to replace in government.
 
Have you tried Copilot?
They ran government trials of it here and it was pretty underwhelming.
I don't think centralised AI governance is on the cards in our lifetimes.
 
True AI would see humanity as a whole as a blight on the planet. Terminator scenario ensues.
 
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